2 years of braces - before and after(my case)

[CristianT]

So I just received from my orthodontist the pictures which he took before starting the treatment with braces and bands(elastics).

I know I still don't look good and I need DJS(bcs my bite is STILL not correct) and for sure genio as well, but yeah.. What you guys think? Did it changed something in my face or not? I can't tell if it's just the angles or idk.

Please no troll.

Before:

Present:

 

[Nosecel]

Great photos bro

 

[AutisticBeaner]

side profile kinda looks better now but there's more downward growth

 

[Hades]

You need fuller lips

 

[goat2x]

not any noticable maybe undereye area but could be the camera flash
and thats a fucking problem, 2 years,a lot of money and you look the same atleast your bite would be correct but it isnt

 

[Almu]

What surgerys did you get
0 Ramus btw

 

[CristianT]

What surgerys did you get
0 Ramus btw

Rinoseptoplasty
@Almu, can DJS improve the ramus area?

 

[MogTheMogger]

in the first pics you looks a bit twinky, no homo. but yeah. dont see any difference, considering doing braces too. i have an underbite and overbite FUCK

 

[CristianT]

in the first pics you looks a bit twinky, no homo. but yeah. dont see any difference, considering doing braces too. i have an underbite and overbite FUCK

Damn.. Guess I really need to do that DJS.. fuck my life.

 

[Deleted member 2661]

Brutal ramus pill

 

[Deleted member 2733]

What was your malocclusion?

 

[CristianT]

Brutal ramus pill
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I don't like it man :/ I think I will never be a chad, I'm aware of that and tbh I don't want to be a chad, I just want to be a high tier normie with a perfect bite and normal jaws. Can DJS improve ramus?

This is how it looks when I jut my jaw. Can you make a little morph to bring my maxilla forward as well?

What was your malocclusion?

 

[Deleted member 2661]

I don't like it man :/ I think I will never be a chad, I'm aware of that and tbh I don't want to be a chad, I just want to be a high tier normie with a perfect bite and normal jaws. Can DJS improve ramus?

This is how it looks when I jut my jaw. Can you make a little morph to bring my maxilla forward as well?

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How do you cope?

 

[CristianT]

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How do you cope?

Hmm.. looks horrible ngl but i appreciate your effort

 

[Deleted member 2661]

Hmm.. looks horrible ngl but i appreciate your effort

 

[Deleted member 4209]

really dont see a lot of difference

chin maybe a bit longer/downward grown but idk

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

No difference
Yo7 need to go to a balckpilled jaw surgeon

 

[CristianT]

No difference
Yo7 need to go to a balckpilled jaw surgeon

I will have a consultation IRL with Defrancq in February.

When he will ask me what bothers me, what should I tell him? I don't even know what the hell is wrong with my lower third, I can just only see it's not looking masculine.

Until now I research but I don't know if I'm right or wrong but problems is:
1. When I slightly open my mouth, my teeth are not showing(this can be fixed with hip graft on my maxilla + Le Fort I)
2. Not defined jawline and symmetric
3. Upper lip is too thin
4. I don't have enough chin projection.

Are these correct, what I'm I missing here? Would a BSSO + Le Fort I + Genio+ Zygoma implants would be enough?

 

[Patient A]

So I just received from my orthodontist the pictures which he took before starting the treatment with braces and bands(elastics).

I know I still don't look good and I need DJS(bcs my bite is STILL not correct) and for sure genio as well, but yeah.. What you guys think? Did it changed something in my face or not? I can't tell if it's just the angles or idk.

Please no troll.

Before:

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Present:



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After pictures need to be in the same environment as before

 

[Almu]

Rinoseptoplasty
@Almu, can DJS improve the ramus area?

DOnt know