4 months roidcel transformation

[Deusmaximus]

 

[arabcelxxx]

0 appeal

 

[Hexmask]

POV you don’t use dutasteride, and use harsh compounds at ridiculous dosages.

Stick to test, dutasteride, and maybe low dose masteron for bloat if you want.

 

[MA_ascender]

POV you don’t use dutasteride, and use harsh compounds at ridiculous dosages.

Stick to test, dutasteride, and maybe low dose masteron for bloat if you want.

test, deca, bit o' var, some healthmaxx peptides and molecules and a 5ar inhibitor



mogsssss

 

[Hexmask]

test, deca, bit o' var, some healthmaxx peptides and molecules and a 5ar inhibitor



mogsssss

Careful with deca. Can’t mix deca, or NAND with dut unfortunately, there is a mechanism in which it speeds up hair loss.

Mirin everything else. I’m about to start my next cycle. 750 test minimum this time

 

[gofortheeyes]

0 appeal

Cope, he has definitely gained some PSL points. Black men generally need muscle, as it conforms with the stereotype many people have that they are primitive and physical.

 

[gofortheeyes]

POV you don’t use dutasteride, and use harsh compounds at ridiculous dosages.

Stick to test, dutasteride, and maybe low dose masteron for bloat if you want.

Don't really understand this, he definitely gained some appeal, and still has hair.

 

[Hexmask]

Don't really understand this, he definitely gained some appeal, and still has hair.

Idk I think his face looks worse in the after. Obviously his physique looks better but anyone taking over 2 grams of gear would lol.

 

[gofortheeyes]

Idk I think his face looks worse in the after. Obviously his physique looks better but anyone taking over 2 grams of gear would lol.

I don't agree i think his face looks better and more dimorphic in the after. He looks like the bullyable black nerd in the before.

 

[MA_ascender]

Careful with deca. Can’t mix deca, or NAND with dut unfortunately, there is a mechanism in which it speeds up hair loss.

Mirin everything else. I’m about to start my next cycle. 750 test minimum this time

u should def look into metformin, sr9009, bpc/tb, and GH secretagogues (tesa/ipa is the cleanest)

 

[halloweed]

@sb23 @craven @mrmogger2882 @sb23 @Jonas2k7 harsh as fuck

 

[halloweed]

@moreplatesmoreweigh

 

[arabcelxxx]

Cope, he has definitely gained some PSL points. Black men generally need muscle, as it conforms with the stereotype many people have that they are primitive and physical.

Nothing about muscles is primal you goof ball, its all frame and height

Not to use an extreme example but even with an average frame the guy on the right looks infinitely more masculine

 

[gofortheeyes]

Nothing about muscles is primal you goof ball, its all frame and height
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Not to use an extreme example but even with an average frame the guy on the right looks infinitely more masculine

I agree frame matters. But let's just assume average frame. You made it into a dichotomy which was uncalled for.

You have to agree that you can't be primal without a fit, muscular body. Do you think destiny's body is primal? Probably not.

So, as a black man, in order to align yourself into the primal black man fetish, you need a decent frame( I agree on this, but nothing out of the ordinary) but also muscle mass.

 

[arabcelxxx]

I agree frame matters. But let's just assume average frame. You made it into a dichotomy which was uncalled for.

You have to agree that you can't be primal without a fit, muscular body. Do you think destiny's body is primal? Probably not.

His frame is worse than the first guys so no.

So, as a black man, in order to align yourself into the primal black man fetish, you need a decent frame( I agree on this, but nothing out of the ordinary) but also muscle mass.

A healthy amount of muscle you get from having a good hormonal profile and eating right growing up but theres nothing primal about the average gymcels body the guy in op looks abnormal

 

[meathead]

fake as hell

 

[Saint Casanova]

Nothing about muscles is primal you goof ball, its all frame and height
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Not to use an extreme example but even with an average frame the guy on the right looks infinitely more masculine

The guy in the right gymcels and you can make your scapula much wider with particular exercises and techniques. Gymcelling is even better with a good frame. Why not make it stand out more.

Any aspect you can improve in life, you should 100% do it.

 

[arabcelxxx]

The guy in the right gymcels and you can make your scapula much wider with particular exercises and techniques.

Im not sure that’s possible but if so then gymcelling can be worth it i just dont see women ever admiring a body like the one in op or even of the average gymcel

Gymcelling is even better with a good frame. Why not make it stand out more.

Any aspect you can improve in life, you should 100% do it.

If it actually changes bones then sure but gaining too much muscle never appeals to females

 

[Saint Casanova]

Im not sure that’s possible but if so then gymcelling can be worth it i just dont see women ever admiring a body like the one in op or even of the average gymcel

If it actually changes bones then sure but gaining too much muscle never appeals to females

It’s possible ask ORC, he mentioned that he repositioned his scapula with back and delt training.

 

[ascension124]

0 appeal

This guy is obsessed with roiders

 

[arabcelxxx]

This guy is obsessed with roiders

Wonder if hes a manlet and/or framelet

 

[ascension124]

Wonder if hes a manlet and/or framelet

Frame mogs muscle but you need some muscle too. That’s why I mainly train delts and arms and lats they give the impression of a bigger frame. Chest and legs are pure gymcel muscles

 

[ascension124]

POV you don’t use dutasteride, and use harsh compounds at ridiculous dosages.

Stick to test, dutasteride, and maybe low dose masteron for bloat if you want.

Is there a reason you are using so much test? You can lose hair on test and Dut, MPmD made a video on this. RU58841 is the only way to stop this

 

[ascension124]

Wonder if hes a manlet and/or framelet

Most these roiders are too much

 

[arabcelxxx]

Frame mogs muscle but you need some muscle too. That’s why I mainly train delts and arms and lats they give the impression of a bigger frame. Chest and legs are pure gymcel muscles

I still think having average muscle with great frame is better than high muscle but if your frame is just good some muscle can kinda fraud it

 

[Hexmask]

Is there a reason you are using so much test? You can lose hair on test and Dut, MPmD made a video on this. RU58841 is the only way to stop this

I use nizoral as my topical anti androgen and its always worked great.

 

[Hexmask]

u should def look into metformin, sr9009, bpc/tb, and GH secretagogues (tesa/ipa is the cleanest)

Oh yeah I know all of these. SR I believe is great for lipid control correct? Metformin for HGH blood sugar issues. I wanna try ipa. Max out my IGF-1. Ive heard its equivelant to like 2 iu HGH. Sleep like a rock. Ive used MK as every other starter user has but its a retarded and overhyped drug.

 

[MA_ascender]

Oh yeah I know all of these. SR I believe is great for lipid control correct? Metformin for HGH blood sugar issues. I wanna try ipa. Max out my IGF-1. Ive heard its equivelant to like 2 iu HGH. Sleep like a rock. Ive used MK as every other starter user has but its a retarded and overhyped drug.

dont do ipa alone, it has awesome synergy with GHRH analogs so itd be a waste to not stack it with some mod grf or tesamorelin



SR9009 is just a massive healthmax, slashes lipids, kills cancer, reverses cardiac hypertrophy etc, check out @NZb6Air and @Dyorotic threads on it

 

[Hexmask]

dont do ipa alone, it has awesome synergy with GHRH analogs so itd be a waste to not stack it with some mod grf or tesamorelin

Will def look into these down the road. Need to get to 215 lean first

SR9009 is just a massive healthmax, slashes lipids, kills cancer, reverses cardiac hypertrophy etc, check out @NZb6Air and @Dyorotic threads on it

Holy fuck. Will do then. I saw it being thrown around here but didn't realize its that good

 

[Davidproton]

Im not sure that’s possible but if so then gymcelling can be worth it i just dont see women ever admiring a body like the one in op or even of the average gymcel

If it actually changes bones then sure but gaining too much muscle never appeals to females

Lmao muscle appeals to women, it just needs to be combined with frame height and face.

David Laid, Jeff Seid, Vinnie Hacker, Henry Cavil

 

[arabcelxxx]

Lmao muscle appeals to women, it just needs to be combined with frame height and face.

David Laid, Jeff Seid, Vinnie Hacker, Henry Cavil

All would look better with less muscle

 

[ascension124]

I use nizoral as my topical anti androgen and its always worked great.

What strength

 

[ascension124]

All would look better with less muscle

Cavill is ok

 

[xnj]

the other night i had a dream where i crashed out and just pinned tren

so over for me

 

[sportsmogger]

looks good asf

but dont think that was his cycle jfl

itll be permanent gains if he cruises

 

[SoundnVision]

I use nizoral as my topical anti androgen and its always worked great.

How long do you keep it in?

 

[sportsmogger]

Nothing about muscles is primal you goof ball, its all frame and height
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Not to use an extreme example but even with an average frame the guy on the right looks infinitely more masculine

u need muscle with frame

skinny wide frames are legit nothing to fawn over, i have one and look like shit

 

[arabcelxxx]

u need muscle with frame

skinny wide frames are legit nothing to fawn over, i have one and look like shit

Whats your bidelt, you’re probably very skinny?

 

[sportsmogger]

Whats your bidelt, you’re probably very skinny?

yes, 21ish inch bidelt

i willmeasure once i get a tape measurer

im very skinny

 

[actualunderstander]

Looks not as good as natty gains. He's obviously not gonna keep the majority of that off cycle, he built it so quickly and didn't have much of a base before he decided to cycle. All he needed to do was bulk for a year and he'd be good to go but he decided to roid

 

[arabcelxxx]

yes, 21ish inch bidelt

i willmeasure once i get a tape measurer

im very skinny

Impressive, youd look better with normal muscle, not much better if not worse with gymcel muscle

 

[sportsmogger]

Impressive, youd look better with normal muscle, not much better if not worse with gymcel muscle

im gonna roid

 

[Hexmask]

How long do you keep it in?

10-15 mins

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Holy fuark mirin low inhib

 

[Hexmask]

What strength

I mean it’s 1 percent keto whatever the fuck its called

 

[ascension124]

I mean it’s 1 percent keto whatever the fuck its called

What’s likely happening is you probably have low levels of scalp dht or low sensitivity. Bc I’m not sure if Nizoral actually suppresses it to an extent that will protect against high androgen doses.

I always used Nizoral in my hair loss stack to clean off the scalp to improve the absorption of other topicals not as a direct anti androgen in and of itself. Bht who knows maybe it had an impact.

Why 750? It seems you can make just as good gains on a dose like 250-500 without elevated E2 and other sides and without needing to take AI