5 days a week training was a fail to me

[Deleted member 13335]

I trained my upper body only 5 days a week and saw increase in strength and muscle definition, but lost 3 kg in 1 month. It turned out I've lost 1 kg of muscle and 2 kg of fat, and I lost muscle not only in legs (what I predicted), but in upper body as well, according to special weights, although I tried to eat a lot. My body metabolism is subhuman tier and I will now train only 3-4 times a week

 

[RichardSpencel]

One time I asked,but it wasn't this time.

 

[Chad69]

That’s funny Ive lost 12kg in 2 months without doing nothing
On the bright side I should be worried yet my cheekbones are killers bro

 

[Deusmaximus]

Did you track your calories? How many and how tall?
How exactly do you know that you lost 1kg of muscles? Dexa scan?

 

[ChristianChad]

Too much lactate generation in already stressed individuals is bad news indeed. Check your Thyroid function and get on Ray Peat diet

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Did you track your calories? How many and how tall?
How exactly do you know that you lost 1kg of muscles? Dexa scan?

I didnt track my calories but I eat the amount of food I could handle without vomitting, literally

Yes, it's dexa scan

Through the time of this training programm I have grown 1,1 cm in height

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Too much lactate generation in already stressed individuals is bad news indeed. Check your Thyroid function and get on Ray Peat diet

I've done bloodwork with thyroid hormones and all my thyroid hormones are within normal ranges, they're like in the middle of them

 

[ChristianChad]

I've done bloodwork with thyroid hormones and all my thyroid hormones are within normal ranges, they're like in the middle of them

Can you get some values ? What is your TSH?

 

[ChristianChad]

Do you have cold hands / feet sometimes? Low energy? Lethargy after eating food? Bad sleep quality? Skinny fat?

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Do you have cold hands / feet sometimes?

I do, recently I started feeling shivery sometimes

Low energy? Lethargy after eating food? Bad sleep quality?

No

Skinny fat?

Used to be before starting training, since then gained muscle and lost fat and now I'm not fat nor skinny

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Can you get some values ? What is your TSH?

my TSH is 1,392 μIU/ml, T3 3,05 pg/ml, T4 0,98 ng/dl

 

[ChristianChad]

my TSH is 1,392 μIU/ml, T3 3,05 pg/ml, T4 0,98 ng/dl

That TSH is pretty good actually
Still further improving Thyroid function and health to reduce stress and switch the metabolism from carcinogenic metabolism (inefficent metabolism resulting in oxidation of Glucose without Oxygen, anaerobic glycolysis, even when you're sitting or resting your body does not use Oxygen to oxidase Glucose, and the end product of Glucose oxidation instead of CO2 you get Lactate. So you're producing lactate even when resting)

Also how do you sleep?

 

[Deleted member 13335]

That TSH is pretty good actually
Still further improving Thyroid function and health to reduce stress and switch the metabolism from carcinogenic metabolism (inefficent metabolism resulting in oxidation of Glucose without Oxygen, anaerobic glycolysis, even when you're sitting or resting your body does not use Oxygen to oxidase Glucose, and the end product of Glucose oxidation instead of CO2 you get Lactate. So you're producing lactate even when resting)

Also how do you sleep?

I sleep about 7 hours a day

 

[ChristianChad]

I sleep about 7 hours a day

U feel that's enough?

 

[Deleted member 12270]

U feel that's enough?

It is for most adults, I sleep 6h sometimes

 

[ChristianChad]

It is for most adults, I sleep 6h sometimes

How do your feel on it though

 

[randomvanish]

i'm pretty sure you have a shitty diet or really dumb exerecising style.

 

[ChristianChad]

Nigger

 

[Deleted member 12270]

How do your feel on it though

Not that fresh, when I sleep 9h I feel awesome but lazy

 

[ChristianChad]

Nigger

 

[TITUS]

It doesn't matter how many days a week you train, in fact the more often you train the better (as a natty), you just have to eat, sleep and adjust volume accordingly. So, slep more, eat more and do a propper split routine. Your body eventually gets used to the workload.

 

[Deleted member 13335]

U feel that's enough?

fine

 

[Deleted member 13335]

It doesn't matter how many days a week you train, in fact the more often you train the better (as a natty), you just have to eat, sleep and adjust volume accordingly. So, slep more, eat more and do a propper split routine. Your body eventually gets used to the workload.

I eat like a beast in the gym, do all exercises to failure and have about 24-28 sets per one workout. Each one I complete to failure and set new PRs every day. I trained like that 5 days a week

 

[Deleted member 12270]

I eat like a beast in the gym, do all exercises to failure and have about 24-28 sets per one workout. Each one I complete to failure and set new PRs every day. I trained like that 5 days a week

I leave 2 reps in the tank for big compound movements, I found that I progress more that way than going to failure every time. For small muscles I do go to failure

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Do you have cold hands / feet sometimes? Low energy? Lethargy after eating food? Bad sleep quality? Skinny fat?

i have these things especially cold feet/hands all the time. what does it mean?

 

[ChristianChad]

i have these things especially cold feet/hands all the time. what does it mean?

secondary or primary hypothyroidism, i.e Hypometabolic

 

[Deleted member 14543]

secondary or primary hypothyroidism, i.e Hypometabolic

is this related to my inability to gain weight without eating like 4000 cals a day?

 

[ChristianChad]

is this related to my inability to gain weight without eating like 4000 cals a day?

i'm not too sure. an unhealthy metabolism causes all sorts of ailments

 

[ChristianChad]

is this related to my inability to gain weight without eating like 4000 cals a day?

check out Ray Peat

 

[ChristianChad]

Plus I think you're just undereating tbh and not fueling your high metabolism (supposed high metabolism, or whatever it is)

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Plus I think you're just undereating tbh and not fueling your high metabolism (supposed high metabolism, or whatever it is)

I eat like 4 times a day with 120 grams of protein and I think enough carbs and fats, also sweets right after training session

 

[ChristianChad]

I eat like 4 times a day with 120 grams of protein and I think enough carbs and fats, also sweets right after training session

Drink Orange juice for easy carbs minerals and cals I drink like a liter a day. Really good stuff