Abs are literally nothing compared to broad shoulders

ICXCLuvr

ICXCLuvr

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There’s literally no reason to train abs other than aesthetic

And women don’t even care about abs anyways. they care about shoulders and clavicles.
 
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my frame is average
 
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true frame over anything

chubby frame maxed dude mogs narrow clavicle lean gym max
 
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Yes, but good look having any of the coping retards here admit this.

Many here think being 18 inch bideltoid with gay ass abs @ 10-12% beats being 24 inch bideltoid without abs @ ~15%.
 
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hand in hand honestly, no woman would want someone whos 6'5 but has a 17 inch bidelt. dork pheno
Usually a sign of klinefleters to have a tiny frame whilst being tall
 
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