Any arguments against this?

[Lord Shadow]

Always felt since calisthenics was more natural that there was merit to it having more benefits over weightlifting, this is lifefuel for lean is law ppl imagine the free alternative turns out to give a better physique lol . Although I am interested in hearing arguments against this because the video is somewhat biased

 

[Iooksmax]

Humans have never lifted weights

 

[sover]

Always felt since calisthenics was more natural that there was merit to it having more benefits over weightlifting, this is lifefuel for lean is law ppl imagine the free alternative turns out to give a better physique lol . Although I am interested in hearing arguments against this because the video is somewhat biased

shit tiktok ngl

 

[LKSMAXPerson]

monkey

 

[Lord Shadow]

Humans have never lifted weights

Yeah also the risk of over training with calisthenics is super low whilst ego lifting is giga prevalent (which is bad for you)

 

[VV62]

Harder to progress lifts and isolate muscles

 

[Lord Shadow]

shit tiktok ngl

What did he say that was wrong?

 

[Lord Shadow]

Why would u even cope against this lol this should be lifefuel, you can build a better more aesthetic physique for free and its more natural for your body

 

[trench]

Always felt since calisthenics was more natural that there was merit to it having more benefits over weightlifting, this is lifefuel for lean is law ppl imagine the free alternative turns out to give a better physique lol . Although I am interested in hearing arguments against this because the video is somewhat biased

weightlifting is better in a lot of ways


its harder to progress lifts in calis and you cant really isolate muscles and hit every single part of every single muscle


you can do calis but weightlifting is superior stop coping

 

[sover]

What did he say that was wrong?

First of all a 'good' physique is subjective.
2nd:Non-weighted calistehnics only focuses on tvol and no increase in intensity unless some sort of move with brutal stability that makes you unable to put all your force on the weight but to stabilize for a good form
3rd calisthenics is good because its compound and thats why i do it.Its better for real life and practice.and cooler imo
4th bodybuilding mogs in terms of ht sth increase and is better for isolation and size

 

[Lord Shadow]

weightlifting is better in a lot of ways


its harder to progress lifts in calis and you cant really isolate muscles and hit every single part of every single muscle


you can do calis but weightlifting is superior stop coping

Don't see how any of that matters, everyone knows huge muscles aren't important & the video shows that the most aesthetic muscles are better suited for calisthenics leading to a more proportional physique

 

[trench]

everyone knows huge muscles aren't important

who is everyone ?

wanting to look like andrey smaev or jeff seid its completely subjective, some people want to be huge with muscles, some people just want defined muscles/be lean and they dont care about size that much

its subjective, everyones perspective is different, what makes a lean defined physique better than a less defined bigger in size physique ?

 

[Lord Shadow]

First of all a 'good' physique is subjective.
2nd:Non-weighted calistehnics only focuses on tvol and no increase in intensity unless some sort of move with brutal stability that makes you unable to put all your force on the weight but to stabilize for a good form
3rd calisthenics is good because its compound and thats why i do it.Its better for real life and practice.and cooler imo
4th bodybuilding mogs in terms of ht sth increase and is better for isolation and size

V-tapers always mog as for the 4th its cope and doesn't matter unless you wanna attract gymcels (muscle mass ≠ appeal also the muscles u want to train are hit better with this did u watch the video jfl), the 2nd is stupid because who tf does calisthenics unweighted besides beginners and 3rd you're correct mirin

 

[sover]

First of all a 'good' physique is subjective.
2nd:Non-weighted calistehnics only focuses on tvol and no increase in intensity unless some sort of move with brutal stability that makes you unable to put all your force on the weight but to stabilize for a good form
3rd calisthenics is good because its compound and thats why i do it.Its better for real life and practice.and cooler imo
4th bodybuilding mogs in terms of ht sth increase and is better for isolation and size

and more and more and more and more tbh but im lazy just do weighted calisthenics it mogs everything still add some isolation exercises for side delt etc.Im too fat for weighted cali

 

[Lord Shadow]

who is everyone ?

wanting to look like andrey smaev or jeff seid its completely subjective, some people want to be huge with muscles, some people just want defined muscles/be lean and they dont care about size that much

its subjective, everyones perspective is different, what makes a lean defined physique better than a less defined bigger in size physique ?

That's fine but most girls dont even know who jeff seid is jfl its fine if thats your personal goal I'm talking about the most appealing physique for attracting women

 

[Lord Shadow]

and more and more and more and more tbh but im lazy just do weighted calisthenics it mogs everything still add some isolation exercises for side delt etc.Im too fat for weighted cali

When I say calisthenics obviously I mean weighed lol

 

[sover]

V-tapers always mog as for the 4th its cope and doesn't matter unless you wanna attract gymcels (muscle mass ≠ appeal also the muscles u want to train are hit better with this did u watch the video jfl), the 2nd is stupid because who tf does calisthenics unweighted besides beginners and 3rd you're correct mirin

gang what are you even talking about? you can achieve more muscle mass much more quicker by lifting weights.Weightlifting is much better in practicality.Fat people cant do calisthenics.And V tapers? what does that even mean you can ahve v tapers as a person that lifts weights.And people do unweighted calisthenics meaning their only bodyweight focusing on total volume.They do higher reps too which is proven to lower test.

 

[trench]

That's fine but most girls dont even know who jeff seid is jfl its fine if thats your personal goal I'm talking about the most appealing physique for attracting women

they dont have to know who he is, i named him as a physique example

but yeah a lean defined physique attracts women more than a bigger in size less definition physique but that doesnt make the lean physique "better" its just better for attracting women, nothing else everything else depens on your goals and its subjective, at the end of the day its just opinions bhai

 

[marshadow]

Always felt since calisthenics was more natural that there was merit to it having more benefits over weightlifting, this is lifefuel for lean is law ppl imagine the free alternative turns out to give a better physique lol . Although I am interested in hearing arguments against this because the video is somewhat biased

What could possibly provide better muscle stimulus than you muscles being forced to adapt in order to combat external conditions?

 

[Lord Shadow]

It makes a lean defined physique better than a less defined bigger in size physique ?

No clue but girls obviously like it more, if I had to guess I'd say health markers. The leaner you are the healthier you are some new studied even show stuff like 22 BMI being less healthy than 18-19 BMI so it makes sense

 

[trench]

When I say calisthenics obviously I mean weighed lol

also you can build the same lean defined muscle physique in the gym aka weightlifting faster than you would if you did calis because the gym offers a lot of variety between exercises, we went off the topic, weightlifting is better than calis, easier to progress in weights, faster gains, can build a good frame on either tho

 

[Lord Shadow]

Yeah a lean defined physique attracts women more than a bigger in size less definition physique but that doesnt make the lean physique "better" its just better for attracting women

Yeah that's the whole point, if your actually into body building I agree I'm talking purely aesthetics

 

[trench]

Yeah that's the whole point, if your actually into body building I agree I'm talking purely aesthetics

yes, thats fair but weightlifting is better than calis for multiple reasons i said some of them in previous posts and so did sover

V-tapers always mog

you can build a v taper in the gym tho, and way faster than if you did calis whats your point

 

[trench]

Yeah that's the whole point, if your actually into body building I agree I'm talking purely aesthetics

also calis athletes just do high reps and thats completely braindead

 

[Lord Shadow]

you can build a v taper in the gym tho, and way faster than if you did calis whats your point

I only said that because he said an attractive physique is subjective when its literally proven V-tapers mog objectively

 

[trench]

I only said that because he said an attractive physique is subjective when its literally proven V-tapers mog objectively

it is subjective tho, you are acting like every woman would prefer a david laid physique over a will tennyson physique, its subjective not every woman likes the same type of physique

 

[Lord Shadow]

it is subjective tho, you are acting like every woman would prefer a david laid physique over a will tennyson physique, its subjective not every woman likes the same type of physique

Studies show that most prefer a V-taper stop coping lol just goes to show how far gone this site is when niggas are debating if V-tapers objectively mog the most lmfao

 

[trench]

Studies show that most prefer a V-taper stop coping lol just goes to show how far gone this site is when niggas are debating if V-tapers objectively mog the most lmfao

what studies ?

you said "I only said that because he said an attractive physique is subjective when its literally proven V-tapers mog objectively"

meaning everyone prefers V tapers which just isnt true

also idk whos coping if its not you u went off topic u said calis is better than weightlifting and when met with arguments against that you started talking about how girls prefer a v taper like you cant achieve a v taper in the gym, faster compared to calis high reps cucks

 

[looksmaxxed]

it makes you weak and gay. anyone with an impressive physique doing calisthenics is on steroids and lifts weights traditionally on the side.

 

[highinhibcel]

Always felt since calisthenics was more natural that there was merit to it having more benefits over weightlifting, this is lifefuel for lean is law ppl imagine the free alternative turns out to give a better physique lol . Although I am interested in hearing arguments against this because the video is somewhat biased

You only see the top 1% on social media tho. You will not look like this after 1 year calisthenics training.

 

[Lord Shadow]

You only see the top 1% on social media tho. You will not look like this after 1 year calisthenics training.

Not the point, watch the video the protocol is all that matters

 

[highinhibcel]

Not the point, watch the video the protocol is all that matters

It could be true, but I think you can build muscle faster with lifting

 

[creyn444]

Using weights lets people increase resistance carefully so their muscles develop more effective mass. New resistance becomes limited after extensive calisthenics practice because additional weight remains the sole solution to increase resistance. These training methods serve different purposes because their objectives do not align.