Anybody know how I can rotate my mandible downwards like this? (Short face syndrome)

[SubhumanCurrycel]

As you are probably aware I’m a brachycephalic short lower third kutta with a deformed pug skull and pathetic chin height
my skull:

I want to achieve downgraft of my chin to increase the height of my chin and decrease the labiomental angle

Morph:

ignore nose

Anyone have experience with CW rotation with either bimax or molar extrusion comment pls

tagging SFS kuttas
@Copemaxxing @Latebloomer10

 

[volcelfatcel]

i don't even think brachy cranium is your issue, just lack of height on your skull gonial angle is like non existant it's 90 degrees minecraft steve tier.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

i don't even think brachy cranium is your issue, just lack of height on your skull gonial angle is like non existant it's 90 degrees minecraft steve tier.

In that case I could get orthodontic clockwise rotation hopefully my oral surgeon doesn’t deny me

 

[volcelfatcel]

In that case I could get orthodontic clockwise rotation hopefully my oral surgeon doesn’t deny me

your gonial angle creates your short as fuck chin.

I'm not that mesocephalic either i'm pretty close to brachy but I still have good chin height and square chin because my gonial angle isn't absolute shit

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

your gonial angle creates your short as fuck chin.

I'm not that mesocephalic either i'm pretty close to brachy but I still have good chin height and square chin because my gonial angle isn't absolute shit

Tbh there’s a guy on tiktok who has a gonial angle like mine but his ramus is really tall and his chin follows it so his chin height is fine fuck if I had a better gonial or better ramus fuck

 

[volcelfatcel]

Tbh there’s a guy on tiktok who has a gonial angle like mine but his ramus is really tall and his chin follows it so his chin height is fine fuck if I had a better gonial or better ramus fuck

yup its your gonial and ramus, i don't have a short ramus nor a shit tier 90 degree gonial angle like you. That's honestly the culprit of your problems

You did get lucky with the fact you don't have a rounded chin like 99% of south asians, that and a short chin is death tier.

 

[justadude]

perma open your mouth

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I don't know much about this topic but Afaik molar extrusion (not extraction) can increase mandibular height for sure. Bimax can easily do that for you aswell in fact bimax would be a better option I think. Just talk to your maxfac and tell them you have incompetent smile and show them this morph.

 

[ChristianChad]

i don't even think brachy cranium is your issue, just lack of height on your skull gonial angle is like non existant it's 90 degrees minecraft steve tier.

Noob question, isn't 90 degree gonial angle chad tier?

 

[volcelfatcel]

Noob question, isn't 90 degree gonial angle chad tier?

No it looks like shit because you end up looking like Steve from minecraft. Chad gonial angle is 110-128

 

[volcelfatcel]

Noob question, isn't 90 degree gonial angle chad tier?

 

[ChristianChad]

Hmm understandable. Maybe I was think of an actual good length ramus bone

 

[Copemaxxing]

surgery+ post pic of smile

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

surgery+ post pic of smile

have you heard of molar extrusion?

 

[Deleted member 6217]

bimax will change your life

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

bimax will change your life

I thought bimax was only necessary when advancement was needed?
can I get away with orthodontic treatment?

 

[Deleted member 6217]

I thought bimax was only necessary when advancement was needed?
can I get away with orthodontic treatment?

no you need bimax with cw rotation since you need 2mm advancement to compensate for the rotation @Copemaxxing

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

no you need bimax with cw rotation since you need 2mm advancement to compensate for the rotation @Copemaxxing

Brutal shit
What’s the chance they cover it or even let me go through with it if it’s purely cosmetic?

 

[Deleted member 6217]

Brutal shit
What’s the chance they cover it or even let me go through with it if it’s purely cosmetic?

they wont cover it me and copemaxxing both got brutally rejected by maxfacs in europe.
but if you pay for it yourself at ramieri or andreischev then you can get it

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

they wont cover it me and copemaxxing both got brutally rejected by maxfacs in europe.
but if you pay for it yourself at ramieri or andreischev then you can get it

Fucking Jews man they covered my cancer treatment but not my hairloss or my sfs when it’s worse than the cancer

 

[.👽.]

chin/sidewing maybe

 

[SixCRY]

bimax only can fix that

Thé pb is finding a surgeon who will operate on you, they will cope you with genio

Ur case is borderline, cause he will do bimax for 2/3mm

 

[Mateusz74]

Stubble/beardmaxxing will help

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You've been talking about blackpilled jaw surgeries for over a year but still haven't gotten Rhinoplasty. That alone would improve you 1.5-2 IRL points. Your nose is a massive failo.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

You've been talking about blackpilled jaw surgeries for over a year but still haven't gotten Rhinoplasty. That alone would improve you 1.5-2 IRL points. Your nose is a massive failo.

College student in debt mate I’m not earning except for jobs I had through the holidays that I used to pay fees.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Just Mouth breath theory

 

[Deleted member 7725]

College student in debt mate I’m not earning except for jobs I had through the holidays that I used to pay fees.

Same but I still wageslaved during school and summer to get it.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Same but I still wageslaved during school and summer to get it.

How much do you have saved up?
I had 8k but almost all is gone after fees, books and expenses I have to work again this year.

I’m thinking of flying to turkey if I get a rhino the evaluations where I’m at are a fucking rip off 10-12k is not worth it

 

[Deleted member 7725]

How much do you have saved up?
I had 8k but almost all is gone after fees, books and expenses I have to work again this year.

I’m thinking of flying to turkey if I get a rhino the evaluations where I’m at are a fucking rip off 10-12k is not worth it

$10k is 100% worth it for you. You'd have good appeal if you didn't have a subhuman nose.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

As you are probably aware I’m a brachycephalic short lower third kutta with a deformed pug skull and pathetic chin height
my skull:
View attachment 1211361
I want to achieve downgraft of my chin to increase the height of my chin and decrease the labiomental angle
View attachment 1211363
Morph:
View attachment 1211364
ignore nose

Anyone have experience with CW rotation with either bimax or molar extrusion comment pls

tagging SFS kuttas
@Copemaxxing @Latebloomer10

your midface ratio will change for the worse imo. if it isn't like this from the front then it shouldn't be a death sentence in smv

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Do you perhaps clench and have your molars together most of the time @SubhumanCurrycel ?

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Do you perhaps clench and have your molars together most of the time @SubhumanCurrycel ?

I got asked that by my dentist too but honestly I dont even grind my teeth or anything

 

[SOS-Sonic]

I got asked that by my dentist too but honestly I dont even grind my teeth or anything

But do you have you molars in contact? I bet you do, since it pushes your teeth inwards and stop them from erupting giving you a shorter face.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

 

[Ryan]

But do you have you molars in contact? I bet you do, since it pushes your teeth inwards and stop them from erupting giving you a shorter face.

is it bad to have teeths in contact?mew said they should be in contact

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

But do you have you molars in contact? I bet you do, since it pushes your teeth inwards and stop them from erupting giving you a shorter face.

nah not in my resting position my back teeth dont touch

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

As you are probably aware I’m a brachycephalic short lower third kutta with a deformed pug skull and pathetic chin height
my skull:
View attachment 1211361
I want to achieve downgraft of my chin to increase the height of my chin and decrease the labiomental angle
View attachment 1211363
Morph:
View attachment 1211364
ignore nose

Anyone have experience with CW rotation with either bimax or molar extrusion comment pls

tagging SFS kuttas
@Copemaxxing @Latebloomer10

Yo how do you look shaved

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Yo how do you look shaved

Like curry agent 47

 

[SOS-Sonic]

is it bad to have teeths in contact?mew said they should be in contact

it will make the face shorter overtime, and it may be bad depending on the case

 

[Deleted member 756]

You have bruxism?

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

You have bruxism?

not that I know of

 

[Deleted member 13409]

Unironically perfect Solution: https://exploreplasticsurgery.com/c...ing_wp_cron=1605361308.3028979301452636718750

You could add vertical height to the chin and have it taper back to 1mm or less in the gonial region.

 

[user47283]

As you are probably aware I’m a brachycephalic short lower third kutta with a deformed pug skull and pathetic chin height
my skull:
View attachment 1211361
I want to achieve downgraft of my chin to increase the height of my chin and decrease the labiomental angle
View attachment 1211363
Morph:
View attachment 1211364
ignore nose

Anyone have experience with CW rotation with either bimax or molar extrusion comment pls

tagging SFS kuttas
@Copemaxxing @Latebloomer10

Open wedge genioplasty

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

But do you have you molars in contact? I bet you do, since it pushes your teeth inwards and stop them from erupting giving you a shorter face.

the molars are cucking each other from growing taller?

 

[SOS-Sonic]

the molars are cucking each other from growing taller?

If you have then in contact 24/7, yes. At least that is what John Mew alluded to.

 

[Deleted member 13710]

As you are probably aware I’m a brachycephalic short lower third kutta with a deformed pug skull and pathetic chin height
my skull:
View attachment 1211361
I want to achieve downgraft of my chin to increase the height of my chin and decrease the labiomental angle
View attachment 1211363
Morph:
View attachment 1211364
ignore nose

Anyone have experience with CW rotation with either bimax or molar extrusion comment pls

tagging SFS kuttas
@Copemaxxing @Latebloomer10

You've got great forward growth, and I don't think the height is as bad as you're making it out to be. I would consider just getting a genioplasty that moves the chin a little downwards. This is the best example I've seen:

https://www.lovethatface.com/files/2013/04/Untitled-7c-1.jpg

From this doctor:

https://www.lovethatface.com/cosmetic-facial-surgery-richmond-va/lower-facial-procedures/genioplasty/

 

[BertrandRussell]

I have a very similar bone structure to you. I have a square mandible, and would like more of a "V-shape".

Pretty much all bimax surgeries would achieve this.

I have consulted with Alfaro, Pagnoni and Defrancq in the last two weeks and it was Pagnoni's modelling that came the closest to what I (we) want. Have a consult with Pags