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MY POST IS ONLY ABOUT THE MCU TONY STARK

As a Tony Stark fan, I’m going to answer this based on the arguments I’ve seen on my posts about Tony Stark. I’m also going to address why some of the reasons are baseless.
Look, anyone can hate any character they want, for whatever reason they want. What irks me is when they use the made-up MCU and then try to ruin the character for other people. Also, bashing a character for mental health issues is not okay
Okay, here are some of the reasons I’ve seen for hating Tony Stark.

1. He tried to kill Bucky.
   1. Sigh. Civil War is a touchy subject, I know. Especially that final fight scene. The Bucky Barnes stans immediately started hating Tony Stark from this moment on because well in roughly their words “Tony Stark tried to kill an innocent man.” Look, I know Bucky was brainwashed and he is *not responsible for the actions he committed while in Winter Soldier mode. I GET IT. I also will protect Bucky Barnes with my life so I can kinda see where they’re coming from. HOWEVER, people want to paint this with different colors than what it is and chose to ignore some facts.
      1. The circumstances in which Tony learned of his parents' death are crucial to understanding the psychology of the situation. Nobody in their right mind, much less someone who just had to watch their parents’ murder, would react rationally. It also didn’t help that Steve showed little sympathy for Tony and didn’t try to talk Tony down since the beginning (not hating on Steve, I love him too, but come on Rogers! That’s not how you act when a friend learns about their parent’s murder!).
      2. Tony Stark acted as any human would. In the heat of the moment and at peak emotional distress nobody would listen to reason. If you’re incapable of being empathic and seeing this from a psychology POV then I just hope you hold the same energy for T’Challa who also ignores the fact that Bucky wasn’t in control and still wanted to kill him. If you don’t hate T’Challa with the same energy as Tony Stark, you’re just biased against Tony Stark and are looking for any reason to hate him. In which case, I hope the cognitive dissonance doesn’t eat you alive.
2. There’s too much Tony in the MCU.

1. 1. Okay, fine, if you want to hate him for this reason, go ahead! Maybe you’re just sick of seeing RDJ/Tony Stark in everything MCU. I guess I can give that point to you. Unfortunately for you, that’s not going to change. RDJ/Tony Stark is the reason the MCU is what it is today. If Iron Man (2008) had flopped the MCU would never have happened. Marvel Studios owes everything to RDJ. Also, RDJ is a phenomenal actor and he has also been a huge part of getting the other actors we love to join the MCU (hi, Chris Evans I’m looking at you). So, yeah, you can be annoyed but this started at the Tony Stark Cinematic Universe and it will end as Tony being the central character (with the most well-developed character arc).
2. He was a “war profiteer.”
   1. Tony Stark inherited Stark Industries from his father. He was handed down a business that since a young age he had been told “helped [his] country.” It was all he ever knew, even his best friend was in the military and largely encouraged the technological advancements made by SI. So, you say, making weapons is wrong, but does that constitute war profiteering? What I consider actual war profiteer is selling weapons to both sides to 1. Fuel the war and ensure that it lasts so that your profit doesn’t run out. 2. Making money from both sides of a war 3. Selling cheap weapons and resources at inflated prices to earn more money. And you know who did that? Not Tony Stark. Nope, that was Obidah Stane. But, somehow over the years, everyone started to think Tony did this??
   2. People seem to forget that Tony shut down the weapons manufacturing unit of Stark Industries as soon as he could after he learned the truth about what was happening. He even admits that he was naive to not question Stane and the others. Tony then spends the rest of his life attempting to atone for the sins of Stark Industries and yet people seem to ignore this?? It’s almost like the only thing that exists is the first 20 mins of Iron Man (2018). But to the Tony Stark haters it doesn’t matter how many times he shows that he has changed and that he does good things, he will always be the guy who should’ve known not to trust the father figure that was practically all he had left after his parents died .
3. They blame him for Ultron.
   1. Sigh. This one is just getting old. Seriously, it’s been like four years since AoU I thought we all understood that Ultron was not created by Tony? And that Tony is not the sole reason Ultron was born.
   2. The canon Ultron was already inside the Mind Stone. The AI code came from the Mind Stone. Wanda is also to blame because homegirl knew that Stark was prone to self-destructive tendency and had PTSD. Bruce agreed to help Tony create an interface. Tony and Bruce were not successful in creating an interface and Ultron came to life on its own.
   3. For a deeper breakdown, check out my answer to this here: Abigail Martínez's answer to Who is to blame for the creation of Ultron? Did Tony Stark make Ultron?
4. “He made Peter a child soldier.”
   1. People love to reach. And this one just makes me roll my eyes. Tony Stark didn’t recruit Peter into a fight because Tony Stark never thought it would come down to fight. The only reason Team Stark was at the airport was to arrest Steve, Bucky, and Sam. It was an arrest mission… not military ambush into a hostile area. Tony didn’t expect it to turn hostile. And neither did Team Cap. When it started to get heated, Tony explicitly told Peter “keep your distance and web them up.” He didn’t tell him “Okay, soldier, you know what to do punch them bloody.” I just… I really don’t think we’re watching the same movies. And he didn’t force Peter? Peter wanted to go and he freaking excited and jumping off the walls at the hotel (Did anybody watch Homecoming?) Also, I’m sorry, but you realize that by saying Tony put Peter in danger by bringing him to arrest Steve is saying that Steve is reckless and knows no bounds (which I do not agree with). Tony brought Peter because he could safely and quickly arrest HIS FRIENDS. He brought him because it was CAP. He didn’t think there was a possibility of hostile force because it was freaking Captain America. Why would you assume that Cap would beat any of his friends bloody? You’re acting like Tony recruited Peter to fight the Chitari army. Which means that you’re basically saying that Team Cap is as bad an evil alien army (which hey means you think the Accords are right they should all be locked up).
   2. Stan Lee created Peter Parker with the intention of him being a kid superhero. Stan wanted to show that kids were not only sidekicks but also heroes. It’s a superhero movie, and some of the most well-liked characters are kids (like Bucky was in the comics when Cap found him)? Seriously, you’re just looking for reasons to hate on Tony because this is a superhero movie and Spider-Man is supposed to be a kid!!
   3. But the fact remains, Tony didn’t put Peter in danger because it was his friends they were going to arrest. You want to admit that you believe Team Cap knows no bounds, that’s on you.
5. He brought Peter Parker to space
   1. I’m sorry? Did you miss the part when Tony said, “Happy trails, kid. F.R.I.D.A.Y, send him home.”
   2. Peter Benjamin Parker, bless his heart, then overrides the suits commands using his sheer will (his overbearing need to help Tony) and ends up as a stowaway on the ship.
   3. Peter Parker: I know what you’re gonna say. Tony Stark: You should not be here. Peter Parker: I was gonna go home- Tony Stark: I don’t wanna hear it. Peter Parker: But it was such a long way down, and I just thought about you on the way- Tony Stark: And now I gotta hear it. Peter Parker: …And I kinda stuck to the side of the ship. And this suit is ridiculously intuitive, by the way. So if anything, it’s kinda your fault that I’m here. Tony Stark: (seriously) What did you just say? Peter Parker: I take that back. And now I’m here in space. Tony Stark: Yeah. [Iron Man crosses to stand right in front of Spidey] Right where I don’t want you to be. This isn’t Coney Island. This isn’t a field trip. It’s a one-way ticket. You hear me? Don’t pretend like you thought this through. You could not have possibly thought this through.
   4. Okay, so maybe you’re thinking, “but he didn’t turn the ship around when he should have!!!!” Here’s the problem with that argument… Tony was 100% right to take the fighting away from Earth and doing it on Thano’s turf. No civilians get hurt. Earth doesn’t get destroyed. Win-Win. In other words, Tony’s vision doesn’t come true (or so he thinks, poor guy doesn’t know). Except, you say “he’s taking Peter to the fight on Titan WTFF.” You say that as if Peter Parker would not have fought that purple grape if they had gone back to Earth. It would have literally been the same exact scenario except they probably would’ve ended up destroying NYC or some other major cities (killing thousands just in the fight before the SNAP). And he could not have known about Wakanda because, by the time he made it back to Earth, Bruce would have already called Steve (meaning Tony doesn’t have his damn number or any way of contacting them). How the hell was he suppose to know how to get to Wakanda? How was he suppose to know where they are all going? Why would he want to risk destroying Wakanda? It makes no sense for Tony to turn the ship around. Right now they have what Tony believes to be their best chance, a wizard who holds a stone and him (with super teched out armor that made Thanos bleed). My bet, he probably wouldn’t have included Peter in any fighting at all, since he doesn’t even consider Peter backup.
   5. Peter Parker: [raises his hand] I’m back up. Tony Stark: No. You’re a stowaway. The adults are talking.
   6. Point is, they knew where Thanos would be next (Titan) because Maw was heading there after capturing Doctor Strange. Meaning that Maw alerted Thanos to where he was giving him the next stone. They had the element of surprise!!! Why would he risk bringing Thanos to Earth, where there are two infinity stones and make it easier for him? Not only that but like I said possibly destroy Earth in the process. For all Tony knew, there was no more of “Thano’s children,” and all they had to do was beat the grape and be done. This was the smartest plan. If you stopped thinking like a person who knows the future and instead would place yourself in that position, you too would see it. So, no Tony Stark did not force Peter to go to space with him.
6. Steve Rogers stans.
   1. In the MCU, for some apparent reason, liking Tony Stark and liking Steve Rogers has become mutually exclusive. And this is something I cannot wrap my head around… because for one, every other adaptation of the Avengers (comics and animations) show that Tony and Steve are BFFs and have the best relationship out of all the Avengers. two, just because the Civil War happened doesn’t mean that you have to hate the other side. Steve still respects Tony (calling him Earth’s best defender!) and Tony still cares about Steve (making him a new shield and carrying the phone around with him everywhere he goes). So, if they can overcome their differences then why can’t the audience just enjoy the films without hating on characters and ruining the experience for others???
   2. Also, this is going to hit a nerve for some people, but you all realize that Tony and Steve are more alike then some people care to admit.
7. He’s arrogant and narcissistic.
   1. This is not entirely true. I’ll refer to my answer about Tony Stark’s narcissism here. Abigail Martínez's answer to Can Tony Stark be considered as having a narcissistic personality disorder?

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