Cant emphasize enough, dont fall for the "stimulant" pipedream

[Crusile]

1. Why dont scientists like me use amphetamines/adderall? if they work so well?​

2. depression/anxiety will cause adhd symtoms 100% of the time, its very easy to misdiagnose yourself. 50-70% of users on this site are misdiagnosed

3. zoomer males refuse useful anxiety/depression treatment like therapy because of toxic masculinity. they feel as if they can "grind" (money) out of their mental illness?

4. euphoric effects are side effects, they have nothing to do with the drugs prescribed function for adhd. Theres no long term benefit to tangoing with euphoric effect tolerance- "non adhd" stimulant usage is retarded

 

[Deleted member 18879]

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

the worst side effects from most stimulants is the usual, vomiting, anxiety and at worse tachycardia. using stimulants in adulthood have virtually zero provable long term side-effects, they are only harmful for kids.

 

[RecessedChinCel]

I’ll read your post after i’m done smoking brb

 

[Crusile]

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

the worst side effects from most stimulants is the usual, vomiting, anxiety and at worse tachycardia. using stimulants in adulthood have virtually zero provable long term side-effects, they are only harmful for kids.

The chased hyper productivity effect is the pipe dream not the adhd drug treating adhd. Its fine for someone combined with adhd therapy but
-internet misdiagnosed people who tango euphoric effect tolerance
-incel gen z males refuse therapy, ssris because of internet memes theyve seen and toxic masculinity
..

 

[Crusile]

@lasthope

 

[mvp2v1]

How do I know if I have been mis-diagnosed?

 

[Deleted member 5815]

The chased hyper productivity effect is the pipe dream not the adhd drug treating adhd. Its fine for someone combined with adhd therapy but
-internet misdiagnosed people who tango euphoric effect tolerance
-incel gen z males refuse therapy, ssris because of internet memes theyve seen and toxic masculinity
..

go tell that to the men who have had their lives ruined and are doomed to be forever alone due to post ssri sexual dysfunction and can't get hard at all even years after discontinuing this poison and those who killed themselves after getting on ssris, stimulants can be a once in a while thing it doesn't come with the addiction of taking ssris


there's a few users on this forum who make all their posts about shilling ssris the vax seed oils etc if its a troll it's pretty funny ngl

 

[Crusile]

How do I know if I have been mis-diagnosed?

Its hard to determine, keep an open mind.
The most common misdiagnosis is:
Depression causing low energy/cognitive impairment, anxiety causing procrastination/lack of focus

go tell that to the men who have had their lives ruined and are doomed to be forever alone due to post ssri sexual dysfunction and can't get hard at all even years after discontinuing this poison and those who killed themselves after getting on ssris, stimulants can be a once in a while thing it doesn't come with the addiction of taking ssris


there's a few users on this forum who make all their posts about shilling ssris the vax seed oils etc if its a troll it's pretty funny ngl

Yet you also refuse therapy (zero side effects).
You want the dark triad hustling grind money drug, NOT soy therapy

 

[TheMewingBBC]

Strongly agree with number 2 and the first half of 3. I’ve been depressed and anxiety riddled for so long without realizing. Though SSRI is not the answer for everyone but I’m not denying it benefit a population out there. Also nothing wrong with grind culture by itself, wanting to be financially free is a liberating thought for ambitious men, but it’s definitely been used a mask for depression and feeling worthless… I can attest to this lol.

Therapy is definitely not cope as long as you find the right people, I fell for the anti therapy meme here back in 2019. It is beneficial for everyone especially if you’re trying to evolve your personality to climb the social ladder, too many neurotic and maladaptive traits users here possess without realizing because of their cognitive bias and lack of self awareness

 

[TheMewingBBC]

This video support your argument of adhd being commonly misdiagnosed. It’s really hard to focus and “grind” if you’re traumatized, anxious or depressed

 

[looksmaxxed]

the real reason not to do drugs is because they're for weak easily manipulated cucks

 

[Adamsmith12345]

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[apocalypse]

This video support your argument of adhd being commonly misdiagnosed. It’s really hard to focus and “grind” if you’re traumatized, anxious or depressed

I can't listen to this
Because I know she is right
My reward for suffering abuse in childhood will be perennial anxiety and depression, cancer, heart disease, and early death. It only gets worse pill is one of the bleakest.

 

[TheMewingBBC]

I can't listen to this
Because I know she is right
My reward for suffering abuse in childhood will be perennial anxiety and depression, cancer, heart disease, and early death. It only gets worse pill is one of the bleakest.

I’m in the same boat I most likely got c-PTSD. I probably got DID too lmao. Listen to me, Hop on a decent antidepressant and anxiolytic drug, they out there. Even if you die earlier than average you will live more and achieve way more than staying sober and depressed

 

[apocalypse]

c-PTSD

Not to self-diagnose but looking at the symptom list I can relate to every word as well jfl. I hadn't heard of the term before but it seems to be what I've been calling abused dog syndrome on here.
I've been wanting to see a professional for a long time but there's no public psychiatry here so I've had to resort to self medicating which unsurprisingly didn't work. I will just have to shell out for a private psychiatrist tbh because my alternative is ropemaxx.

 

[Deleted member 19036]

The chased hyper productivity effect is the pipe dream not the adhd drug treating adhd. Its fine for someone combined with adhd therapy but
-internet misdiagnosed people who tango euphoric effect tolerance
-incel gen z males refuse therapy, ssris because of internet memes theyve seen and toxic masculinity
..

refusing ssri's wtf. i have used ssris for 2 FUCKING YEARS "TWO" fucking "YEARS". they did only gave me tmeporary benefits for 6 months or so b4 making me waaay more fucked up.

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Its hard to determine, keep an open mind.
The most common misdiagnosis is:
Depression causing low energy/cognitive impairment, anxiety causing procrastination/lack of focus

Yet you also refuse therapy (zero side effects).
You want the dark triad hustling grind money drug, NOT soy therapy

therapy doesn't work man ive been to 4 different therapists for good 6 months they aint helped me. I contributed myself way more positive shit with my choices and critical thinking than THERAPISTS.

 

[Deleted member 19036]

@Crusile it just doesnt work for some people OK? methylphenidate doesnt work. bullshit therapists that trying to play the POLYANNA doesnt help. only thing that helps me is tianeptine but some days it just doesnt work. im not even bitter cuz i cant get no pussy. im just feelin this way cuz of my brain

 

[Deleted member 22623]

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

the worst side effects from most stimulants is the usual, vomiting, anxiety and at worse tachycardia. using stimulants in adulthood have virtually zero provable long term side-effects, they are only harmful for kids.

I'm having a hard time believing a prolonged use of hardcore stimulants, even as an adult, have zero long term side-effects.

Even a rather 'harmless' stimulant such as nicotine have side effects, both long and short-term.

 

[Deleted member 19036]

if you a good doc than give some solid advice instead of preassuming about me.

IM NEUROTIC AS FUCK. IM TROUBLED. IM MENTALLY FUCKED. TRULY FUCKED. give me some advice then go ahead.

No hallucination or delusions.
My anxiety goes worser even tho I DONT LDAR. i dont rot i work on myself and improve myself but my nervous system gets way more unresponsive and tenser day by day. Some days i feel blessed and turn into a decent social guy that can think clearly.
My dopamine levels are fucked (no motivation or will to do anything)
I'm not really that depressed.

TLDR:I'm just neurotic as fuck and can't focus on stuff and got literally 0 motivation event o get myself a cup of water, this causes me to be seen as a weirdo and prevents me from looksmaxxing and having fun and shit. My reflexes and physiological (not psyhological) stuff went really downhill since my mental problems have peaked so im kinda scared of having an literal PSYHOLOGICAL (not psyhological) problem.

i tried numerous SSRI's SNRI and other RECEPTOR INHIBITORS only to experience awful or completely placebo effects.
Ritalin kinda works sometimes but sometimes. Also tianeptine helps but somedays i really need to pop 3 intead of 1 to see the positive effects.

 

[Deleted member 22623]

if you a good doc than give some solid advice instead of preassuming about me.

IM NEUROTIC AS FUCK. IM TROUBLED. IM MENTALLY FUCKED. TRULY FUCKED. give me some advice then go ahead.

No hallucination or delusions.
My anxiety goes worser even tho I DONT LDAR. i dont rot i work on myself and improve myself but my nervous system gets way more unresponsive and tenser day by day. Some days i feel blessed and turn into a decent social guy that can think clearly.
My dopamine levels are fucked (no motivation or will to do anything)
I'm not really that depressed.

TLDR:I'm just neurotic as fuck and can't focus on stuff and got literally 0 motivation event o get myself a cup of water, this causes me to be seen as a weirdo and prevents me from looksmaxxing and having fun and shit. My reflexes and physiological (not psyhological) stuff went really downhill since my mental problems have peaked so im kinda scared of having an literal PSYHOLOGICAL (not psyhological) problem.

i tried numerous SSRI's SNRI and other RECEPTOR INHIBITORS only to experience awful or completely placebo effects.
Ritalin kinda works sometimes but sometimes. Also tianeptine helps but somedays i really need to pop 3 intead of 1 to see the positive effects.

Im really neurotic too and depressive tendencies on top of it
Even having a full-time job, working out X 5 a week and trying to be social doesn't help.. constantly trapped in my mind

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Im really neurotic too and depressive tendencies on top of it
Even having a full-time job, working out X 5 a week and trying to be social doesn't help.. constantly trapped in my mind

i just don't get it. being sad when you are rejected is something but the most brutal thing is being sad FOR NO FUCKING LITERAL REASON. #1 LUNATICTRUCEL TRAIT

 

[Alexanderr]

Stimulants can be life-changing so long they're properly used and not abused.
Taking it for every mundane task, upping the dosage every week, taking no tolerance breaks, not properly understanding the health risks attached to long-term use, etc... Are all things that you shouldn't do but that too many people do regardless. I'd argue most.