Do we plan our lives before we are born?

[Lasko123]

Many people feel that reincarnation can't exist because they don't remember their past and my answer to the world is we do remember.
We don't have the details but we have certain key hints as to who we are.
The type of music we like, the people we are most attracted to, the types of food we like, the clothing we wear, certain periods of history that we identify with.
These are indications this is where we have been before and so our present incarnation or our present lifetime is a composite of all the fruits of what we were before."
Carey Williams
Co-Author: Reincarnation: A New Horizon
(Ancient Mysteries – Reincarnation Documentary Hosted by Leonard Nimoy)​

Through my research, the cycle of life to death to re-birth has been pretty much the same from all the sources I studied and let me tell you, there were many.

It all starts with the Pre-Birth Plan...

You establish this plan with a council. Some people call this council the elders or the wise ones. Pretty much, they are very old beings who know their stuff so to speak.

You meet with them along with your spirit guides. You discuss the life ahead of you and are given the choice of a few different lives to pick from in the current time period you are incarnating into.

To give you an example:

I was given the choice of being an artist or a Samurai in Japan.​

You choose everything, including your parents. Once your choices have been given to you and you pick one, the tedious task starts of planning all the things you wish to experience in the upcoming life.

Experience isn't the only thing we seek; we have goals to meet and challenges to overcome. Some wish to learn patience or overcome jealousy.

Many people have debated this theory but you also choose to clear up karmas. To me, clearing up karmas simply means creating a balance.

There are a few other things like healing, contrast and healing false beliefs. When the life plan is being created, our guides are there with us creating what Robert Schwartz describes through his work as a flow chart.

A flow chart is the plan but with 'free will' incorporated into it. He goes into great detail about the flow chart in an interview he did with Afterlife TV which you can view here.

Our guides also create synchronicities in our lives to trigger certain things in us and guide us on the best path to help us master our goals.

After the plan is in place, we are born and forget the plan and who we truly are.

Why Do We Forget?

"You close your eyes to the past in order to reopen them to a new existence. You can get more expansion by forgetting"
Teal Swan
Spiritual Catalyst

"It wouldn't be a test if you knew the answers"
Dolores Cannon​

Forgetting is an integral part of the cycle.

It's how we truly get to know ourselves and fully live the current life we are living. Dolores and Teal give really great, simple explanations of it. We're living in the time of remembering and many of us are remembering who we are and why we came to Earth at this time.

Those who haven't fully awakened to their abilities but wish to have more insight on who they are and why they are here seek out mediums or people who are in tune with higher frequencies and can connect to help them access that kind of information.


How Does the Pre-Birth Plan Affect the Laws of Attraction and Manifestation?

The Pre-Birth Plan is set in place but free will gives us the ability to create any reality we choose to live in.

With that being said, there are certain things we are meant to experience and because of that, I believe some things are out of our control.

For example:

• If you are meant to experience a certain illness or disease, you will manifest that illness.​
• If you are meant to experience a negative relationship, you will attract that negative person into your life.​

I guess you could consider that to be the Law of Attraction or Manifestation but because it's not something you are fully conscious of because you planned it before you were born, it's hard to call it that.

Lately, I've seen some people get confused because they know about the Laws of Attraction, how to manifest positive things and are on a high vibration but something negative comes into their life and they're suddenly thrown off balance because they felt they were doing everything right so they couldn't understand how they could attract something negative.

When that happens, I'm led to believe that that is the Pre-Birth Plan kicking in.

There's a lesson to be learned, an experience to be had for growth, healing or balance or in some cases you have strayed pretty far away from your Pre-Birth Plan and things in your life begin to fall apart.


Are Past Lives Relevant To This Life?

On occasion, healing needs to take place from things that occurred in past lives.

Other than that, wanting to know about past lives just from sheer curiosity might not be a good idea for many reasons.

"Meher Baba is fairly, fairly clear and I'm afraid maybe for many people's taste, a bit frighteningly clear on this.
There is a wall between the consciousness of the present life and previous lifetime stored records. And he said actually it's for a pretty good reason because the variety and also the strength of those previous lifetime recordings is so varied, so complex and in many cases oppositional.
This lifetime is way over here and that lifetime is way over there and if all of a sudden we break through the protective wall and these things come out you know.
He said this can be or would be - if the individual has not done it - one of the most upsetting things that could possibly occur to him and in the usual human state of emotional being the individual is just not strong enough to encompass and to be able to handle and digest and go beyond this tremendously varied functions.
So Baba simply says don't tamper too much with the protective wall. He was talking primarily with people who were just for their own curiosity trying to recall previous lifetimes."
Don E. Stevens
Disciple of Meher Baba​

Knowing about past lives can seriously mess with you mentally and emotionally.

I know this because I have remembered many of my previous incarnations and asked about them in readings I've had with a medium I know and love.

Although I personally find them fascinating and look upon them with no judgments; not everyone may be able to handle knowing about all the roles we play here on Earth.

Playing Roles

We come into each incarnation playing a role.

The role is chosen with the help of our guides and council before we are born. We take turns playing different roles. In one life you will choose to be murdered and in another you will volunteer to be the murderer. The list of switching roles is vast and complex.

This information is really hard for some people to take in. It took me awhile to really process it all but in the end, it all made sense.

There's a part in Kung Fu Panda that I always think of when I think about good versus bad.

Master Shifu runs up to Master Oogway and says to him that it's very bad news.
Master Oogway smiles and says,​

"There is just news. No good or bad."​

From what I've found through my research and what I truly believe in my heart is that negative is an illusion.

Negative and positive are both construction material. Negative is an evolutionary catalyst.

We come to Earth for many reasons but a big one is soul growth.

Soul growth on the other side is very slow because it is paradise. Also, because we are able to forget who we are, we can learn things on a deeper level and expand even more from it.

Let's say you want to know love. What better way to know love than to lose it or become separated from it, not even knowing that all of our very existence is love.

After I heard the theory that we play roles was presented to me, I no longer hated a single person on this planet nor did I fear anything. Because we live in a world of duality, we must have "negative."

The negative is what makes this world. If we didn't have the villains, none of this would be possible.

In every single one of those villains (oppressors, abusers, etc.) is a beautiful soul living a human experience that was all planned with soul growth in mind.


Why is the Theory of Planning Our Lives Important?

We are living in a very interesting time where many truths that were once hidden are now coming to light

I'm not saying that the theory of planning our lives is true but rather a new perspective on an old story. There are many stories of the human species origins and why we are here but after extensive research and hearing all the stories, this is the one that truly resonates with me.

That, and I've remembered who I am with the help of my spirit guides.

I wrote an article about how to connect with your own spirit guides which you can read here.

At this time, I feel it is very important to find out what is truly going on in our world and why we are here. All perspectives should be taken into consideration and anyone is free to believe what they feel resonates with them.

I'm not here to change beliefs. I'm sharing this theory because this theory helped me. I forgave the negative of this world and felt gratitude for it because it all helped me to grow.

Whether or not this theory is true, that is still a positive thing and perhaps others could take something positive from it like I did.

 

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[Dorado]

I'm agostic, but I lean towards atheism. I would love for there to be a greater force in this universe, for us to have souls, etc. That would be amazing. I don't think anyone would prefer to be just be a meaningless clump of cells whose mind will eventually fade into nothingness when your physical body perishes. But I can't help but feel like I would be coping to believe in something that I want to be true, without any evidence.

However, I am open to these ideas. Reincarnation does make the most sense out of all life after death explanations. Human lives are so short and the person we become is so largely affected by random circumstances outside of our control. It's silly to think that whatever we end up doing in this short period will define permanently the fate of our souls for eternity. A continuous cycle would be more reasonable.

I always felt like I was born in the wrong age. I have always dreamed of being a military leader in the age of imperialism, since I was a kid. I felt robbed of a life I was born to have. This makes me think about reincarnation, you sparked my interest with this post.

I have lots of questions if you don't mind. Have you always believed in reincarnation? What religion were you brought up in? Did that change over your life? What about that medium, how did you meet him/her? What makes you believe in them?

 

[chadison]

I'm agostic, but I lean towards atheism. I would love for there to be a greater force in this universe, for us to have souls, etc. That would be amazing. I don't think anyone would prefer to be just be a meaningless clump of cells whose mind will eventually fade into nothingness when your physical body perishes. But I can't help but feel like I would be coping to believe in something that I want to be true, without any evidence.

However, I am open to these ideas. Reincarnation does make the most sense out of all life after death explanations. Human lives are so short and the person we become is so largely affected by random circumstances outside of our control. It's silly to think that whatever we end up doing in this short period will define permanently the fate of our souls for eternity. A continuous cycle would be more reasonable.

I always felt like I was born in the wrong age. I have always dreamed of being a military leader in the age of imperialism, since I was a kid. I felt robbed of a life I was born to have. This makes me think about reincarnation, you sparked my interest with this post.

I have lots of questions if you don't mind. Have you always believed in reincarnation? What religion were you brought up in? Did that change over your life? What about that medium, how did you meet him/her? What makes you believe in them?

This is probably copy pasta (his thread)

 

[chadison]

I'm agostic, but I lean towards atheism. I would love for there to be a greater force in this universe, for us to have souls, etc. That would be amazing. I don't think anyone would prefer to be just be a meaningless clump of cells whose mind will eventually fade into nothingness when your physical body perishes. But I can't help but feel like I would be coping to believe in something that I want to be true, without any evidence.

However, I am open to these ideas. Reincarnation does make the most sense out of all life after death explanations. Human lives are so short and the person we become is so largely affected by random circumstances outside of our control. It's silly to think that whatever we end up doing in this short period will define permanently the fate of our souls for eternity. A continuous cycle would be more reasonable.

I always felt like I was born in the wrong age. I have always dreamed of being a military leader in the age of imperialism, since I was a kid. I felt robbed of a life I was born to have. This makes me think about reincarnation, you sparked my interest with this post.

I have lots of questions if you don't mind. Have you always believed in reincarnation? What religion were you brought up in? Did that change over your life? What about that medium, how did you meet him/her? What makes you believe in them?

I wish more people had discussions like this on this forum. This is exactly what I find most entertaining. Look at my signature, the law of one perfectly relates to everything in this thread and has educated me thoroughly on all these concepts.

 

[chadison]

OP If this is not copy pasta I agree with most of these things and think this is actually a solid thread. Are you familiar with the law of one? It perfectly ties into everything you're discussing. I assume you are, but if not go check it out. I can explain more if you want.

 

[studiocel]

"Hey bro in this life you are gonna be an incel who posts on obscure looksmaxxing forums. You cool with that?"

"Um not really."

"Silence. The elders have spoken. You will be a short indian male it is needed for the karmic balance. Now would you rather be a midget or have a micropenis?

"Nooooooooooo!"

 

[chadison]

I'm agostic, but I lean towards atheism. I would love for there to be a greater force in this universe, for us to have souls, etc. That would be amazing. I don't think anyone would prefer to be just be a meaningless clump of cells whose mind will eventually fade into nothingness when your physical body perishes. But I can't help but feel like I would be coping to believe in something that I want to be true, without any evidence.

However, I am open to these ideas. Reincarnation does make the most sense out of all life after death explanations. Human lives are so short and the person we become is so largely affected by random circumstances outside of our control. It's silly to think that whatever we end up doing in this short period will define permanently the fate of our souls for eternity. A continuous cycle would be more reasonable.

I always felt like I was born in the wrong age. I have always dreamed of being a military leader in the age of imperialism, since I was a kid. I felt robbed of a life I was born to have. This makes me think about reincarnation, you sparked my interest with this post.

I have lots of questions if you don't mind. Have you always believed in reincarnation? What religion were you brought up in? Did that change over your life? What about that medium, how did you meet him/her? What makes you believe in them?

My argument against atheism is simply the fact that something can't come from nothing. Which is essentially what atheism argues. Atheism claims intelligent life is random and was conceived just by circumstance and probability. I find this hard to believe because how can information and intelligence be created out of a singularity such as the Big bang, assuming that theory is correct and modern science is on to the creation of the universe. I think this entire universe is simply a thought, it's all an illusion. It's a thought by the creator, of which we are all infintley small fractions of. Quantum physics and progress in modern science supports my claims, such as the discovery of the higgs boson, quantum fields, and quantum entanglement and superposition. Furthermore, mathematicians such as Dr. S James Gates are now finding that reality is simply a binary code. While they suspected to be a simulation, I think more along the lines of humans tapping in to the intelligence creating the world, the creator itself. Thus, if the world carries information and unexplainable physical phenomena by modern science, how is it possible that all this can be random? How can temporal rifts be random?

Anyway, that's my thought process. I just don't understand how there can be so much unfairness in the world without a purpose to it all as well. The law of one helped me understand that.

 

[Dorado]

My argument against atheism is simply the fact that something can't come from nothing. Which is essentially what atheism argues.

Atheism doesn’t argue that the matter present in the universe came out of nothing. It argues that as far we know, all the matter that comprises the universe has always existed, but was concentrated into one point until it spread with the big bang.

You can either believe that all the matter has always existed or that an intelligent greater force has always existed and created all the matter.

Either way, you’re believing that something has always existed without questioning where that came from.

There’s no logic in presuming the existence of an intelligent greater force, the more straightforward explanation is that all the matter has always existed.

Atheism claims intelligent life is random and was conceived just by circumstance and probability

Not exactly. Evolution is shaped by natural selection, which isn’t random. It started as random, but that was only in the very beginning, once the ball got rolling, natural selection did the rest.

According to evolution, earth, like other planets, was lifeless. But it had a lot of chemistry going on deep in liquid water.

Basically, a lot of chemical reactions were randomly happening and generating random molecular structures for billions of years. Some of those molecular structures had the capacity to multiply. The ones that had the capacity to multiply, soon outnumbered the ones that didn’t.

But these multiplying cells didn’t always make perfect copies of themselves, often, the copy was slightly different. If the difference was detrimental and didn't help the cell multiply more, the cells with this change would die off and disappear. But if the difference was useful to the cell and helped it multiply more, overtime this change would become more and more common in the population of cells.

Slowly, these mutations made these cells more and more complex and that’s how life started.

As you can see, it’s not random. It follows a pattern. A lot of multiplications are happening and with each one, new mutations. Whatever works best, flourishes, whatever doesn’t work, dies off. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. For billions of years.

Evolution is extremely interesting, I spend afternoons watching documentaries sometimes. It’s also beyond proven and well documented, it’s indisputable that evolution happened.

I just don't understand how there can be so much unfairness in the world without a purpose to it all as well

There is so much unfairness precisely because there is no purpose. The universe has no sense of fairness. It just is the way it is. That’s the basis of the blackpill.

 

[chadison]

Atheism doesn’t argue that the matter present in the universe came out of nothing. It argues that as far we know, all the matter that comprises the universe has always existed, but was concentrated into one point until it spread with the big bang.

You can either believe that all the matter has always existed or that an intelligent greater force has always existed and created all the matter.

Either way, you’re believing that something has always existed without questioning where that came from.

There’s no logic in presuming the existence of an intelligent greater force, the more straightforward explanation is that all the matter has always existed.



Not exactly. Evolution is shaped by natural selection, which isn’t random. It started as random, but that was only in the very beginning, once the ball got rolling, natural selection did the rest.

According to evolution, earth, like other planets, was lifeless. But it had a lot of chemistry going on deep in liquid water.

Basically, a lot of chemical reactions were randomly happening and generating random molecular structures for billions of years. Some of those molecular structures had the capacity to multiply. The ones that had the capacity to multiply, soon outnumbered the ones that didn’t.

But these multiplying cells didn’t always make perfect copies of themselves, often, the copy was slightly different. If the difference was detrimental and didn't help the cell multiply more, the cells with this change would die off and disappear. But if the difference was useful to the cell and helped it multiply more, overtime this change would become more and more common in the population of cells.

Slowly, these mutations made these cells more and more complex and that’s how life started.

As you can see, it’s not random. It follows a pattern. A lot of multiplications are happening and with each one, new mutations. Whatever works best, flourishes, whatever doesn’t work, dies off. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. For billions of years.

Evolution is extremely interesting, I spend afternoons watching documentaries sometimes. It’s also beyond proven and well documented, it’s indisputable that evolution happened.



There is so much unfairness precisely because there is no purpose. The universe has no sense of fairness. It just is the way it is. That’s the basis of the blackpill.

The intelligent design vs always existing is basically the chicken and the egg. Which came first: intelligence, or being?

Humans have, through evolution, developed the intelligence to question their existence. What is the purpose of this? If there was no universal God figure, why would humans want to believe in such a thing? Many people argue that religion is a form of control. Yet, the belief in something, even if its a belief that a God doesn't exist, is held by everyone. Many isolated cultures not exposed to the rest of the world (amazonian, tropical islands) all have creation myths.

Btw I'm not arguing evolution, I agree with it and believe it happened exactly the way science explains it. However:

I find it highly improbable that with seemingly magical phenomena like quantum entanglement, particles can literally communicate with each other without a brain or neurons to process actions. They're "entangled." If so, is it possible that we are also "entangled" with each other to some degree or another? If so, is it too much to say that since we are all entangled, and we possess developed intelligence, the universe itself could possess some form of overarching intelligence?

 

[whiteissuperior]

dm me brother. I am likely the only person on this forum who has studied this stuff and can have an intelligent convo with u about this. good post. asked for an unban just to reply to this post dedsrs

 

[Esteban1997]

wow good information bro

 

[Midgetcel]

what is this stupid shit? most ''people'' are born as a shitskin thin-framed midget in a ghetto in some revolting shithole failed state like india or brazil and live a miserable life up until the day they die, no one chooses that, everything you said is bullshit and has just been disproved.

 

[Deleted member 11414]

very good thread op, i am interested in this subject matter and i will read this thread later

 

[Deleted member 5189]

I'm agostic, but I lean towards atheism. I would love for there to be a greater force in this universe, for us to have souls, etc. That would be amazing. I don't think anyone would prefer to be just be a meaningless clump of cells whose mind will eventually fade into nothingness when your physical body perishes. But I can't help but feel like I would be coping to believe in something that I want to be true, without any evidence.

However, I am open to these ideas. Reincarnation does make the most sense out of all life after death explanations. Human lives are so short and the person we become is so largely affected by random circumstances outside of our control. It's silly to think that whatever we end up doing in this short period will define permanently the fate of our souls for eternity. A continuous cycle would be more reasonable.

I always felt like I was born in the wrong age. I have always dreamed of being a military leader in the age of imperialism, since I was a kid. I felt robbed of a life I was born to have. This makes me think about reincarnation, you sparked my interest with this post.

I have lots of questions if you don't mind. Have you always believed in reincarnation? What religion were you brought up in? Did that change over your life? What about that medium, how did you meet him/her? What makes you believe in them?

dorado is my favourite map on overwatch tbh

 

[dnrd]

blackpill incoming (read at your own risk):

Spoiler: SPOILER

dnrd

 

[RODEBLUR]

OwO! i want to be reincarnated as a 6'7 blonde chadlite with huge frame and good muscle genes uwu

This

 

[Lasko123]

what is this stupid shit? most ''people'' are born as a shitskin thin-framed midget in a ghetto in some revolting shithole failed state like india or brazil and live a miserable life up until the day they die, no one chooses that, everything you said is bullshit and has just been disproved.