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Frame (the skeleton/body as opposed to skull/face) is arguably the most important aspect of sex appeal. There is a plethora of differences between the male and female frame.
1. Height
Contrary to the popular depiction
on this forum, height is frame. Taller people weigh more due to greater bone and muscle mass, have greater reach, wingspan, and throwing power, have a longer stride, and are, on average, leaner than shorter people as they burn more calories (again, mainly due to greater muscle mass).
These, among many other advantages, are why males evolved to grow taller than females, allowing them to better protect the women and children.
Average male height is 5 feet and 9.2 inches with a range of 5.62-6.02.
Average female height is 5 feet and 3.6 inches with a range of 5.11-5.61.
Average height difference between male and female is 5.6 inches:
With regard to ideal height:
Most research shows males are attracted to females who are in the average height range. This makes sense as a very above average height for a female (above 5.7) increases the risk of a late birth and its complications, while a very below average height (below 5.0) increases the risk of a premature birth and a less healthy baby.
Some research suggests that the male preference for height in females is actually such that the height difference between them is below the average of 5.6 inches, instead about 2-3 inches.
Most research, however, suggests most males prefer an average height difference of 4-6 inches, which leads to an ideal height range of 5.11-5.61 for females for broadest appeal, with the precise ideal being the dead average height of 5 feet and 3.6 inches.
Unsurprisingly, females have a stronger preference for a greater height difference than males. Most research shows that most females prefer at least an average height difference of at least 4-6 inches, leading to an ideal height range of 5.62-6.02 for the broadest appeal to women.
However, other research shows that females prefer an even greater height difference of 9.8 inches, with a range of 8-10.
This would mean that, for the average female, the ideal male height is 6 foot and 1.4 inches, with a range of 6.0-6.2. Taller one goes above 6.3, the less attractive their height is to the average woman.
Considering all this, it’s safe to say the ideal height range for males is 5.92-6.22, with the precise ideal being 6.14, while 5.62-5.92 is a perfectly acceptable height range. Below 5.6 is when height becomes unacceptable for the average woman.
Ideal height difference as per the female preference:
2. Ribcage
The male ribcage is longer, wider, and deeper than the females due to larger lungs and a greater need for oxygen to supply greater muscle mass.
When the ribcage widens, the clavicle lengthens, and thus the shoulders grow wider.
When the rib age deepens, the chest wall is projected farther out which is why a prominent chest is a very attractive trait in males, roughly equivalent to females having large breasts.
When the rib cage lengthens, the nipple and waistline are positioned lower and farther from the clavicle. This is why people often perceive females to have longer legs and shorter torsos proportionally (in reality this is a male dimorphic trait). They have shorter rib cages and thus their higher waistline make the torso look shorter. A high waistline relative to pelvis also allows the hourglass figure to look more prominent, while the opposite is true for a low waistline.
All this is why, in spite of females having bigger breasts, males have a larger overall chest circumference.
So males have broader shoulders, deeper chests, and lower waistlines (relative to clavicle and pelvis) than females.
3. Hips
This one is pretty obvious. Females have wider pelvic inlets to allow larger, healthier babies to slide through, and thus wider hips. Males have narrower pelvic inlets and thus narrower hips.
Shoulder to Hip Ratio
One of the most underrated aspects of sex appeal, shoulder to hip ratio is an important measure of one’s dimorphism and thus sex appeal. Due to broader shoulders and narrower hips, males have a higher average ratio than females of 1.43. Extreme ends of the radio spectrum are 1.07 and 1.89. Due to narrower shoulders and wider hips, females have a lower average ratio of 1.23. Extreme ends are .905 and 1.68.
Brad Pitt has a very high ratio of roughly 1.7, and his physique is one of the key aspects of his attractiveness:
Scarlett Johansson has a very low ratio of 1.1, and her physique is arguably the main reason she is so attractive:
4. Bone circumference
In addition to having longer arm and leg bones, males have bones that are larger in circumference. This leads to a higher weight (masculine) and greater strength, partially due to increase in muscle and tendon size.
This is mainly why males have larger arm and leg circumference despite females having higher body fats, and, in addition to height, why males weigh more than females despite having lower body fats.
5. Muscle vs Fat
This is well known. Males have lower body fats and higher muscle mass, which is why the attractive male physique is toned/lean yet muscular. Females have higher body fats and less muscle mass. In addition, females have slimmer waists despite having higher body fats, and tend to store more fat in the legs, hips, and buttocks, which is associated with better insulation during pregnancy.
6. Ass
A prominent ass is attractive in both males and females, but for different reasons. Males have longer sacrums and thus larger anogenital distances (more prominent ass). This is associated with higher prenatal testosterone.
For females, a fat ass is attractive due to greater fat storage on the buttocks, but more importantly, a trait called vertebral wedging. I am not interested in explaining it:
Females with average to above average vertebral wedging:
Below average:
There’s much more to cover about the differences between male and female frame, but this is a start.
1. Height
Contrary to the popular depiction
on this forum, height is frame. Taller people weigh more due to greater bone and muscle mass, have greater reach, wingspan, and throwing power, have a longer stride, and are, on average, leaner than shorter people as they burn more calories (again, mainly due to greater muscle mass).
These, among many other advantages, are why males evolved to grow taller than females, allowing them to better protect the women and children.
Average male height is 5 feet and 9.2 inches with a range of 5.62-6.02.
Average female height is 5 feet and 3.6 inches with a range of 5.11-5.61.
Average height difference between male and female is 5.6 inches:
With regard to ideal height:
Most research shows males are attracted to females who are in the average height range. This makes sense as a very above average height for a female (above 5.7) increases the risk of a late birth and its complications, while a very below average height (below 5.0) increases the risk of a premature birth and a less healthy baby.
Some research suggests that the male preference for height in females is actually such that the height difference between them is below the average of 5.6 inches, instead about 2-3 inches.
Most research, however, suggests most males prefer an average height difference of 4-6 inches, which leads to an ideal height range of 5.11-5.61 for females for broadest appeal, with the precise ideal being the dead average height of 5 feet and 3.6 inches.
Unsurprisingly, females have a stronger preference for a greater height difference than males. Most research shows that most females prefer at least an average height difference of at least 4-6 inches, leading to an ideal height range of 5.62-6.02 for the broadest appeal to women.
However, other research shows that females prefer an even greater height difference of 9.8 inches, with a range of 8-10.
This would mean that, for the average female, the ideal male height is 6 foot and 1.4 inches, with a range of 6.0-6.2. Taller one goes above 6.3, the less attractive their height is to the average woman.
Considering all this, it’s safe to say the ideal height range for males is 5.92-6.22, with the precise ideal being 6.14, while 5.62-5.92 is a perfectly acceptable height range. Below 5.6 is when height becomes unacceptable for the average woman.
Ideal height difference as per the female preference:
2. Ribcage
The male ribcage is longer, wider, and deeper than the females due to larger lungs and a greater need for oxygen to supply greater muscle mass.
When the ribcage widens, the clavicle lengthens, and thus the shoulders grow wider.
When the rib age deepens, the chest wall is projected farther out which is why a prominent chest is a very attractive trait in males, roughly equivalent to females having large breasts.
When the rib cage lengthens, the nipple and waistline are positioned lower and farther from the clavicle. This is why people often perceive females to have longer legs and shorter torsos proportionally (in reality this is a male dimorphic trait). They have shorter rib cages and thus their higher waistline make the torso look shorter. A high waistline relative to pelvis also allows the hourglass figure to look more prominent, while the opposite is true for a low waistline.
All this is why, in spite of females having bigger breasts, males have a larger overall chest circumference.
So males have broader shoulders, deeper chests, and lower waistlines (relative to clavicle and pelvis) than females.
3. Hips
This one is pretty obvious. Females have wider pelvic inlets to allow larger, healthier babies to slide through, and thus wider hips. Males have narrower pelvic inlets and thus narrower hips.
Shoulder to Hip Ratio
One of the most underrated aspects of sex appeal, shoulder to hip ratio is an important measure of one’s dimorphism and thus sex appeal. Due to broader shoulders and narrower hips, males have a higher average ratio than females of 1.43. Extreme ends of the radio spectrum are 1.07 and 1.89. Due to narrower shoulders and wider hips, females have a lower average ratio of 1.23. Extreme ends are .905 and 1.68.
Brad Pitt has a very high ratio of roughly 1.7, and his physique is one of the key aspects of his attractiveness:
Scarlett Johansson has a very low ratio of 1.1, and her physique is arguably the main reason she is so attractive:
4. Bone circumference
In addition to having longer arm and leg bones, males have bones that are larger in circumference. This leads to a higher weight (masculine) and greater strength, partially due to increase in muscle and tendon size.
This is mainly why males have larger arm and leg circumference despite females having higher body fats, and, in addition to height, why males weigh more than females despite having lower body fats.
5. Muscle vs Fat
This is well known. Males have lower body fats and higher muscle mass, which is why the attractive male physique is toned/lean yet muscular. Females have higher body fats and less muscle mass. In addition, females have slimmer waists despite having higher body fats, and tend to store more fat in the legs, hips, and buttocks, which is associated with better insulation during pregnancy.
6. Ass
A prominent ass is attractive in both males and females, but for different reasons. Males have longer sacrums and thus larger anogenital distances (more prominent ass). This is associated with higher prenatal testosterone.
For females, a fat ass is attractive due to greater fat storage on the buttocks, but more importantly, a trait called vertebral wedging. I am not interested in explaining it:
Females with average to above average vertebral wedging:
Below average:
There’s much more to cover about the differences between male and female frame, but this is a start.
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