Fuck implants for a sec fuck anterior double jaw surgery the ideal is distractors

[reptiles]

I mean this is water is wet kinda stuff however i can't belive this isn't the standard choice in basic maxio facial surgery, not only do you get new bone so it's safer it's easier to predict some what as your only moving it MM'S at a time usually each day you also don't have shitty titanium plates holding it together like you do with implants. ANd unlike osteotamies this actually generates new bone matter.

And it can also act to add volume or depth to the bone.

@RealSurgerymax
@Sergio-OMS

Why is jaw dis-tractors not the go to for facial surgery ?

 

[Deleted member 3635]

I mean this is water is wet kinda stuff however i can't belive this isn't the standard choice in basic maxio facial surgery, not only do you get new bone so it's safer it's easier to predict some what as your only moving it MM'S at a time usually each day you also don't have shitty titanium plates holding it together like you do with implants. ANd unlike osteotamies this actually generates new bone matter.

And it can also act to add volume or depth to the bone.

@RealSurgerymax
@Sergio-OMS

Why is jaw dis-tractors not the go to for facial surgery ?

CAN U LINK SURGEONS THAT DO THIS

 

[Deleted member 10524]

CAN U LINK SURGEONS THAT DO THIS

 

[reptiles]

CAN U LINK SURGEONS THAT DO THIS

Paul concebig does a form of this with imdo

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Paul concebig does a form of this with imdo

can't find him on google

 

[reptiles]

can't find him on google

Just type in superbimax the rest should be simple enough

 

[Deleted member 7076]

yes imdo mogs

 

[reptiles]

yes imdo mogs

This is basics ngl i want 1 for the ramus give me an imdo on my ramus bro

 

[Deleted member 4790]

I mean this is water is wet kinda stuff however i can't belive this isn't the standard choice in basic maxio facial surgery, not only do you get new bone so it's safer it's easier to predict some what as your only moving it MM'S at a time usually each day you also don't have shitty titanium plates holding it together like you do with implants. ANd unlike osteotamies this actually generates new bone matter.

And it can also act to add volume or depth to the bone.

@RealSurgerymax
@Sergio-OMS

Why is jaw dis-tractors not the go to for facial surgery ?

Because it’s not that comfortable when having it done as an adult. And it’s more expensive. And not so profitable for the surgeon, as we need to compete with standard orthognathic surgery procedures.

 

[reptiles]

Because it’s not that comfortable when having it done as an adult. And it’s more expensive. And not so profitable for the surgeon, as we need to compete with standard orthognathic surgery procedures.

The options still exists though right ? even if it's a taboo you can still get such a procedure done right it's not like the premise mainly supported here that any form of distractions is for deformed people only

 

[Deleted member 4790]

The options still exists though right ? even if it's a taboo you can still get such a procedure done right it's not like the premise mainly supported here that any form of distractions is for deformed people only

There are some pros and some cons, depending on each patient and each procedure.

 

[patricknotstar]

I mean this is water is wet kinda stuff however i can't belive this isn't the standard choice in basic maxio facial surgery, not only do you get new bone so it's safer it's easier to predict some what as your only moving it MM'S at a time usually each day you also don't have shitty titanium plates holding it together like you do with implants. ANd unlike osteotamies this actually generates new bone matter.

And it can also act to add volume or depth to the bone.

@RealSurgerymax
@Sergio-OMS

Why is jaw dis-tractors not the go to for facial surgery ?

Jaw distractors is for malocclusion, most incels don’t have malocclusion they are just recessed overall, if you get jaw distractors without malocclusion you will just develop an underbite

 

[spark]

Because it’s not that comfortable when having it done as an adult. And it’s more expensive. And not so profitable for the surgeon, as we need to compete with standard orthognathic surgery procedures.

Brutal so the reason at the end of the day is that it's not profitable to the surgeon. What if the patient was willing to pay more? I mean isn't it obvious that the future is not in extremely invasive surgeries in which the end result is only held together by plates and screws?

 

[MedMaxxing]

Brutal so the reason at the end of the day is that it's not profitable to the surgeon. What if the patient was willing to pay more? I mean isn't it obvious that the future is not in extremely invasive surgeries in which the end result is only held together by plates and screws?

Nah, there's also the problem of accuracy. Distraction based devices especially in adults aren't always accurate which is why traditional Bimax is still typically preferred since there's a predictable outcome.

 

[spark]

Nah, there's also the problem of accuracy. Distraction based devices especially in adults aren't always accurate which is why traditional Bimax is still typically preferred since there's a predictable outcome.

Yeah I have read an interview where they asked about bollards in adults and the guy said he isn't sure about the predictability of the results. To a large degree that could be a thing of experience. For example a lot of people doubt the whole IMDO thing and even sergio likes the surgery. I think Coceancig called it predictable. I am pretty sure the lack of predictability could be also a thing of the lack of experience with a new technology.

 

[MedMaxxing]

Yeah I have read an interview where they asked about bollards in adults and the guy said he isn't sure about the predictability of the results. To a large degree that could be a thing of experience. For example a lot of people doubt the whole IMDO thing and even sergio likes the surgery. I think Coceancig called it predictable. I am pretty sure the lack of predictability could be also a thing of the lack of experience with a new technology.

I actually got the knowledge from Sergio. I specifically asked about IMDO for myself and there is a pretty large chance that you will need Bimax AFTER IMDO to fix any asymmetry caused by the unpredictable distraction.

 

[spark]

I actually got the knowledge from Sergio. I specifically asked about IMDO for myself and there is a pretty large chance that you will need Bimax AFTER IMDO to fix any asymmetry caused by the unpredictable distraction.

Wow that's not good news damn.

 

[MedMaxxing]

Wow that's not good news damn.

Yeah, you can just get Ramus widening during Bimax anyways. The advantage to IMDO is that it is much more invasive with less downtime.

 

[spark]

Yeah, you can just get Ramus widening during Bimax anyways. The advantage to IMDO is that it is much more invasive with less downtime.

I am still coping with bollards + reverse pull head gear + MSE for the upper and IMDO for the lower.
:banderas:

 

[MedMaxxing]

I am still coping with bollards + reverse pull head gear + MSE for the upper and IMDO for the lower.
:banderas:

Nah dude just do Bimax lol. Gets it over with. That's what I am doing

 

[spark]

Nah dude just do Bimax lol. Gets it over with. That's what I am doing

I would also need to fix undereyes with implants or fillers or something. I could never feel confident knowing my face is full of plates screws and some plastic shit.

 

[MedMaxxing]

I would also need to fix undereyes with implants or fillers or something. I could never feel confident knowing my face is full of plates screws and some plastic shit.

I don't even care about the plates tbh. I get so congested at night time so I kinda need this regardless.

 

[Deleted member 4790]

Jaw distractors is for malocclusion, most incels don’t have malocclusion they are just recessed overall, if you get jaw distractors without malocclusion you will just develop an underbite

Not if you get a simultaneous Le Fort to advance the upper jaw.

 

[Deleted member 4790]

I actually got the knowledge from Sergio. I specifically asked about IMDO for myself and there is a pretty large chance that you will need Bimax AFTER IMDO to fix any asymmetry caused by the unpredictable distraction.

It really depends on some features of the patient, including age, and how seriously you follow the postoperative instructions and how knowledgeable is the orthodontist I’m doing the IMDO orthodontics.

You didn’t go through a proper consultation with me, you only asked a bunch of questions in a conversation. And I told you that at age 24 it could work but that maybe a custom bimax would be my first choice, but especially because of logistics (you live far away from any IMDO surgeon). But yes, I always tell that in adult patients a bimax might be needed afterwards.

 

[MedMaxxing]

It really depends on some features of the patient, including age, and how seriously you follow the postoperative instructions and how knowledgeable is the orthodontist I’m doing the IMDO orthodontics.

You didn’t go through a proper consultation with me, you only asked a bunch of questions in a conversation. And I told you that at age 24 it could work but that maybe a custom bimax would be my first choice, but especially because of logistics (you live far away from any IMDO surgeon). But yes, I always tell that in adult patients a bimax might be needed afterwards.

Custom Bimax meaning Ramus widening involved I am assuming? And yeah, the distance is a big thing. I don't mind travelling at all, especially to Europe, but IMDO involves having to go back more than once for the actual procedure itself.

 

[patricknotstar]

Not if you get a simultaneous Le Fort to advance the upper jaw.

Now we’re just daydreaming

 

[Deleted member 4790]

Now we’re just daydreaming

Not me