Guide How to choose the correct Lip Lift-Lip Augmentation procedure

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Introduction

In this thread I will explain the different surgical procedures to augment and lift the lips and how to choose the most adequate procedure based on your needs.

However, this is just an orientative thread, everyone is different and has to consider which procedures would offer him the best results.

I want to thank the user Surgerymax from Lookism.net for helping me with the thread.

Here is a pic with illustrations of some of the procedures i will talk about in this thread:


Source of the pic:




List of Lip Lift-Lip Augmentation procedures

-Subnasal Lip Lift
(Also called Bullhorn Lip Lift)



A subnasal lip lift elevates the top portion of the lip and reduces the philtrum length.
A very small incision is made at the junction between the nose and lip. The surgeons usually make the incision in the natural crease of the area, so that it is well concealed. After making the incision, a small, curved strip of skin is trimmed away, to lift the lip area. The resulting wound is stitched up with sutures.

Subnasal lip lifts can be a very satisfying procedure but it is important to not try and take too much skin.

You are a suitable candidate for this procedure if your philtrum length is overly above the average range.

You can compare your philtrum length measurement here:

Before & Afters:








-Italian Lip Lift



This is a variation of the Subnasal Lip Lift, in which the columella of the nose is not incised.

This type of lift is great for achieving a more subtle, nuanced result while producing a shorter scar.

Given the positioning of the incision, the central portion is not lifted which is exactly the portion which needs to be lifted for a shorter philtrum, the lift is more focused on the area right below both nostrils.

You are a suitable candidate for this procedure if you want to increase the size of your vermillion borders while maintaining your current philtrum length and cupid's bow size.


-Vermillion Advancement of the Lip
(Also called Gull Wing Lip Lift)



In this procedure a strip of skin is removed from one mouth corner to the other to change the height of the lip vermilion.

This works very well in very thin lips because they lack adequate vermilion height for exposure, the vermilion advancement is also much more effective in shaping the cupid’s bow area of the central upper lip than other procedures.

This procedure can change the lower lip as well.

You are a suitable candidate for this procedure if your upper lip is thin and/or flat shaped.
This procedure would also reduce the philtrum length.*

*If your only problem is your philtrum length and your lips shape is already good a subnasal lip lift is a better option than this procedure.


-Corner of the mouth lift




The incisions are made on the white skin surrounding the upper oral commissures in order to lift this part of the lips.



This leaves a scar on the skin that trails away from the mouth corner in the direction of the ear.

There's a variation of this procedure called "Pennant corner of mouth lift" which eliminates this scar by using a ‘pennant’ skin excision/incision line pattern.
The skin above the mouth corner is removed in a triangular pattern but there is an incision line that goes down along the lower lip vermilion-cutaneous junction. This allows the corner of the mouth to be excised and the mucosa mobilized. A wedge of orbicularis muscle is also removed and sutured upward to create a deeper corner of the mouth elevation. The corner of the mouth is then elevated and inset into the skin removal site.

This variation keeps all the incision lines at the vermilion-cutaneous junctions, hence making them less visible.



However, the pennant method does not lift the mouth corners as much as the traditional triangular excision.


You are a suitable candidate for this procedure if the corners of your mouth are downturned.

A corner of the mouth lift is NOT the same procedure as a 'Smile Lipt', a 'Smile Lipt' not only lifts up downturned mouth corners but leaves one with upturned curls for a permanent smile effect.



This is exactly the result one wants to avoid from a corner of the mouth lift, you dont want to have a joker’s smile.

Before & Afters:


(After scars healed)


Note: These before and afters are from a pennant corner of mouth lift.


-Lip Suspension
(Also called Thread Lip Lift)



The incision will be made on the inside of the nose through the nasal septum, separating the lower lateral cartilages from the septal cartilage. This incision then is carried inferiorly onto the bilateral nasal floors and superiorly as an intercartilaginous incision, separating lateral crura of the lower lateral cartilages from the upper lateral cartilages.

The lip will be lifted by passing a suture through the inside of the nose to the inside of the upper lip, the area incised is limited to the width of the nasal base and only half the distance of the philtrum.



This adds projection to the nasal tip and slight tip rotation, patients with excessive nasal tip projection before the lip suspension will need to undergo a tip rhinoplasty to decrease the tip's projection.
If you want to know if you have overprojected nose tip check this thread i made about nasal tip projection:

You are a suitable candidate for this procedure if you want to make your philtrum look shorter and more concave , increase your upper lip projection or/and increase the upper lip volume.

Before & Afters:




-V to Y Lip Augmentation



A small incision in the shape of a V is made inside the mouth to disengage the mucosa and vermilion, which are then advanced and secured, leaving a portion of scar tissue inside the mouth.

The procedure is called "V-Y lip augmentation" because the original V incision is transformed to look like a Y.



Another technique uses a "W" incision inside the mouth to create several "V" flaps, which are then used in a V-to-Y plasty technique to advance the vermilion of either or both lips.

This procedure does NOT change the philtrum length.

You are a suitable candidate for this procedure if you want to add more volume and/or projection to your lips.


Before & Afters:



More about mouth/lips area
Mouth Widening Guide:
 
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is the last procedure suitable for the lower lip?
 
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Pin It, great threads
 
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Top tier content from top tier user :feelsautistic:
Now I know what kind of lip lift I need (Subnasal one in my case), since my philtrum is long but my lips are already quite thick. Thanks for the info brah
 
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great thread bro

also i want to add for those who consider this : dont be afraid of scars in pictures, lip lift is may be the surgery with least visible scars post 3 months that is done with external cuts, also the place cut made is a very natural area to hide it
 
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nastynas said:
great thread bro

also i want to add for those who consider this : dont be afraid of scars in pictures, lip lift is may be the surgery with least visible scars post 3 months that is done with external cuts, also the place cut made is a very natural area to hide it
You could always say you broke your lips in a fight or someshit and they had to be reconstructed if someone notices and asks
 
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Great thread man.
 
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Bro you're a fuckin legend

So much gold here,

I'm a scheduling a consult for a V-Y lift
 
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I've been saving for my lip lift and your post gave me that last little kick in the ass to get it done. Consult next week, cost $2500, paid in cash.
Getting bullhorn lip lift to bring my philtrum from 20mm to 15mm and finally give me an upper lip.
 
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the results from K @kota are fantastic... lips can really change a person face, totally.
 
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CristianT said:
the results from K @kota are fantastic... lips can really change a person face, totally.
Which surgery did he get? Pics?
 
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Pendejo said:
Which surgery did he get? Pics?
You have to talk with him K @kota and share his pictures private. not going to put his pictures here without his approval.


I think the bullhorn
 
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(pic with morphed left ear and blue contacts)


P @Pendejo what lip augmentation procedure best fits to my face? In order to save money, personally I would choose the fat graft
 
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Lorsss said:
(pic with morphed left ear and blue contacts)
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P @Pendejo what lip augmentation procedure best fits to my face? In order to save money, personally I would choose the fat graft
I think a subnasal lip lift to shorten your philtrum a bit.
 
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Lorsss said:
(pic with morphed left ear and blue contacts)
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P @Pendejo what lip augmentation procedure best fits to my face? In order to save money, personally I would choose the fat graft
Very slight lip lift. Not worth it TBH
 
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best lip lift surgeon in europe? someone recommended spanish guy but I forgot his name
 
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Pendejo said:
Which surgery did he get? Pics?
Yep, bullhorn. Still could benefit from a shorter philtrum but need bimax w anterior impaction first to go any higher.
 
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kota said:
Yep, bullhorn. Still could benefit from a shorter philtrum but need bimax w anterior impaction first to go any higher.
Can you send me pics on PM? I want to get a bullhorn lip lift too.
 
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Damn I need this
 
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kota said:
Sure, PM me
Dude could you send me ? You can cover up what ever would love to see results my philitrum is 20mm lmao

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Dude could you send me ? You can cover up what ever would love to see results my philitrum is 20mm lmao

thank you
Check your PM.
 
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Pendejo said:
Samuel Benarroch?


Sanmiguel Moragas in Barcelona,

are you from Spain Pendejo?

Very good research work Pendejo.
 
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Pendejo said:
This is exactly the result one wants to avoid from a corner of the mouth lift, you dont want to have a joker’s smile.
no irl it actually looks good specially when speaking because irl you're going to be speaking to someone most of the time and not just sit there like a psl autist, squinting. And Im going for smile lipt but great thread. I see you've good knowledge about lip surgeries which is the only thing this forum didn't have yet. A good mouth area is very vital. Cannot appreciate how helpful this is.
 
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my lips are comical
 
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Damn, when to use Lip Filler vs using these?



ps great thread.. omg, OP was banned(
 

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