I broke contact with my FwB because I felt too high and too low value at the same time.

[Deleted member 275]

She wanted a LTR but I wanted to keep it fwb like it was cuz I am a mental wreck and dont want to get too close to another person. But she made me have to choose nothing at all or LTR. Kinda told her that I am depressed asf n shit and she didnt seem to mind. Which made me feel that I dont deserve here at the same time as feeling too good for her.

Shizio trait ngl. We stopped talking.

I sent her a few msgs a month later just asking whatsup and shit, and she said she didnt want to talk with me unless I finally decide to go in LTR with her So I just answered 'then we shouldnt talk'

ngl been thinking about her for a while and ltring her might be good for my mental health or some shit u know. kinda regret my 'choice'. At the same time I think it's kinda pathetic of me to msg her again now

 

[Tony]

u broke ur neck

 

[volcelfatcel]

When u overdose on the redpill

 

[Deleted member 14323]

i'll LTR her br0 don't worry

 

[Deleted member 275]

When u overdose on the redpill
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ngl stupid asf decision she wanted to go on a camping trip with me this summer. I was feeling down n like shit so wasnt rly feeling it and denied her.

But instead what I did this summer I just rotted away in my room

Legit broke down earlier about this already wondering why I self sabotage my life so fucking hard when I get opportunities like this handed to me.

Abused dog mentality cant believe it. Legit 0 self-esteem and self sabotage my life because if it, thinking i dont deserve a good life.

 

[Deleted member 275]

She kinda looks like a budget version of the girl in my sig

 

[volcelfatcel]

ngl stupid asf decision she wanted to go on a camping trip with me this summer. I was feeling down n like shit so wasnt rly feeling it and denied her.

But instead what I did this summer I just rotted away in my room

Legit broke down earlier about this already wondering why I self sabotage my life so fucking hard.

ngl been thinking about her for a while and ltring her might be good for my mental health or some shit u know. kinda regret my 'choice'. At the same time I think it's kinda pathetic of me to msg her again now

if you liked her, probably was worth dating her
now you'll look like an abused dog in her eyes
but you could try again i guess.

 

[Deleted member 275]

if you liked her, probably was worth dating her
now you'll look like an abused dog in her eyes
but you could try again i guess.

yeah, that opportunity has passed. Was feeling down back then so can't really blame myself for wanting to self-isolate it's what I do when i feel like shit ngl.

>now you'll look like an abused dog in her eyes

yeah thats the big issue like, if a girl I was dating sent me a msg like that, I dont think I would respect her. At the same time, I have nothing to lose at this point jfl. Even if I looks like an abused dog, i wont see this girl anymore ever again in my life if i dont msg her so who cares rite? idk

And at the same time im like, why the fuck cant I date some other girl and LTR her instead? But that's very low probality tbh. I've had 2 failed dates since breaking up 2 months ago and dating apps make me want to kms at this point.

 

[turkproducer]

tell her you’ll meet her but don’t tell her first date you’re explicitly starting a relationship with her that easy and quick

 

[Deleted member 275]

tell her you’ll meet her but don’t tell her first date you’re explicitly starting a relationship with her that easy and quick

Like what you mean? you want me to convince her to go for fwb again? She aint gonna go along with that lol. And any date would result in fucking anyways.

I told her I can't LTR back then cuz I am emotionally unavailable. I could say something like I am in an emotional better state now, lets try dating again, idk.

 

[volcelfatcel]

yeah, that opportunity has passed. Was feeling down back then so can't really blame myself for wanting to self-isolate it's what I do when i feel like shit ngl.

>now you'll look like an abused dog in her eyes

yeah thats the big issue like, if a girl I was dating sent me a msg like that, I dont think I would respect her. At the same time, I have nothing to lose.

And at the same time im like, why the fuck cant I date some other girl and LTR her instead? But that's very low probality tbh. I've had 2 failed dates since breaking up 2 months ago and dating apps make me want to kms at this point.

she probably still has feelings for you if she picks up your messages and asks for LTR
she hasn't gotten over you.

 

[Deleted member 275]

she probably still has feelings for you if she picks up your messages and asks for LTR
she hasn't gotten over you.

Not sure tbh. I guess it's cope to talk about this here, I will shoot her a msg asking to date and that im no longer the same as before.

And else just block and forget about her if she doesnt go along.

 

[turkproducer]

Like what you mean? you want me to convince her to go for fwb again? She aint gonna go along with that lol. And any date would result in fucking anyways.

I told her I can't LTR back then cuz I am emotionally unavailable. I could say something like I am in an emotional better state now, lets try dating again, idk.

just tell her u will meet her but you can’t say you’re gonna be her boyfriend before you even meet her or on the first date back

 

[tyronelite]

Down bad.. what’s so special about her?

 

[Deleted member 275]

just tell her u will meet her but you can’t say you’re gonna be her boyfriend before you even meet her or on the first date back

I mean, I could say I am willing to LTR but we need to see if older feelings are still there and we still vibe or something tbh. Go on a few dates again. etc

 

[volcelfatcel]

Not sure tbh. I guess it's cope to talk about this here, I will shoot her a msg asking to date and that im no longer the same as before.

And else just block and forget about her if she doesnt go along.

not really cope to talk about it here
but im 99% sure she still likes you
just doesn't want to be a fuck buddy

the fact she even picks up messages is telling same with her asking for ltr.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Down bad.. what’s so special about her?

I felt like she accepted me? And cuddling with her felt extremely good. Usually felt good/calm around her.

I dont have much dating experience, but with my ex I felt more like a clown that could be dumped at any point. With my ex not really respecting me.
While with her I felt more like she was trying to convince me to accept/date her instead.

 

[Deleted member 275]

not really cope to talk about it here
but im 99% sure she still likes you
just doesn't want to be a fuck buddy

the fact she even picks up messages is telling same with her asking for ltr.

I didn't see that much difference between fuckbuddy or LTR anyways really from my perspective.

I guess I am just scared of committment tbh. I get distant from people when we get close, due to parental child abuse I can only assume.

On the other hand, boyfriend/girlfriend, what does it even mean tbh. If you don't like her anymore u can just break up I guess it's not really 'comittment'.

 

[volcelfatcel]

I didn't see that much difference between fuckbuddy or LTR anyways really from my perspective.

I guess I am just scared of committment tbh. I get distant from people when we get close, due to parental child abuse I can only assume.

On the other hand, boyfriend/girlfriend, what does it even mean tbh. If you don't like her anymore u can just break up I guess it's not really 'comittment'.

LTR you'll actually have to do shit with her besides fucking i guess.
she clearly still has feelings for you

 

[LipstickAlley]

would you want to LTR her now that you have retrospect of the situation? It seems like you have a bit of regret

 

[Deleted member 275]

LTR you'll actually have to do shit with her besides fucking i guess.
she clearly still has feelings for you

We cooked food together, watched movies, went on walks. Tbh we did almost the exact same stuff I did with my ex which was a LTR from the start. Aside from not meeting her family i guess. And we chatted a lot less/werent in as much contact overall as with my ex.

 

[Deleted member 15129]

Was she 0 body count before FwB and did she fuck other guys during that period? If so then you dodged a bullet

 

[Deleted member 275]

would you want to LTR her now that you have retrospect of the situation? It seems like you have a bit of regret

I am not sure tbh. I think there's a decent chance I would just self-isolate again and cut it off again so kinda weird ngl. But I liked the fwb situation we had a lot so maybe this ltr thing aint that much worse

 

[volcelfatcel]

I am not sure tbh. I think there's a decent chance I would just self-isolate again and cut it off again so kinda weird ngl. But I liked the fwb situation we had a lot so maybe this ltr thing aint that much worse

ur legit aspie if u self isolate again
if u like her
no point jfl

 

[Deleted member 275]

Was she 0 body count before FwB and did she fuck other guys during that period? If so then you dodged a bullet

Nah she was high body-count. I doubt she fucked other guys during that period though.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Who mogged?

 

[volcelfatcel]

We cooked food together, watched movies, went on walks. Tbh we did almost the exact same stuff I did with my ex which was a LTR from the start. Aside from not meeting her family i guess. And we chatted a lot less/werent in as much contact overall as with my ex.

u basically ltr'd her
she just wants boyfriend status to make sure she has your commitment and you aren't fucking other girls

she deffo bonded through that, if you kept it strictly fucking she would have not caught feelings.
Women tend to like the parts besides sex more than sex.

 

[Yellowskies]

ngl stupid asf decision she wanted to go on a camping trip with me this summer. I was feeling down n like shit so wasnt rly feeling it and denied her.

But instead what I did this summer I just rotted away in my room

Legit broke down earlier about this already wondering why I self sabotage my life so fucking hard when I get opportunities like this handed to me.

Abused dog mentality cant believe it. Legit 0 self-esteem and self sabotage my life because if it, thinking i dont deserve a good life.

You are suffering from non-nt:ness

 

[Deleted member 275]

u basically ltr'd her
she just wants boyfriend status to make sure she has your commitment and you aren't fucking other girls

she deffo bonded through that, if you kept it strictly fucking she would have not caught feelings.
Women tend to like the parts besides sex more than sex.

Yeah I agree, it was ltr from the start without calling it ltr basically.

I remember she even said something in the beginning that if we are going to stay fwb we shouldnt cuddle n do any of that other shit cuz she cant do that and will catch feelings. But the sex wasn't supergreat usually and I mostly just enjoyed spending time with her instead. I wouldn't have stayed in contact if it was not for the cuddling, being able to fall asleep with eachother in our arms, tbh was great.

Then she told me she wanted to know before summer whether we are going to be ltr, or else that we should break it off entirely.

mehh i kinda feel like I shouldnt msg her anymore now.

its just that the alternative is having to go through months of dating some new chicks again, which I have legit 0 interest in. I guess thats why I want to msg this girl again since I just want those ltr vibes again, without having to date new girls cuz dating is total cancer. I am totally done with dating girls at this point it's always cancer, trying to act NT whilst hoping they don't reject me when they realize I am non-NT

 

[Deleted member 275]

You are suffering from non-nt:ness

Why u think im here on this forum lol. It's extremely hard for me to make and maintain friends, let alone lovers. Legit think it's cuz of my retarded parents and shit teenage years cuz I never had these issues in my younger childhood.

Had a lot of friends and stayed in contact with them, despite being 3psl subhuman.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Gonna forget her for 2 weeks, keep tinder/bumble installed see what's up there, focus on my self a bit try to get a bit more emotionally stable. Then send a msg or ignore forever.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Yeah I agree, it was ltr from the start without calling it ltr basically.

I remember she even said something in the beginning that if we are going to stay fwb we shouldnt cuddle n do any of that other shit cuz she cant do that and will catch feelings. But the sex wasn't supergreat usually and I mostly just enjoyed spending time with her instead. I wouldn't have stayed in contact if it was not for the cuddling, being able to fall asleep with eachother in our arms, tbh was great.

Then she told me she wanted to know before summer whether we are going to be ltr, or else that we should break it off entirely.

mehh i kinda feel like I shouldnt msg her anymore now.

its just that the alternative is having to go through months of dating some new chicks again, which I have legit 0 interest in. I guess thats why I want to msg this girl again since I just want those ltr vibes again, without having to date new girls cuz dating is total cancer. I am totally done with dating girls at this point it's always cancer, trying to act NT whilst hoping they don't reject me when they realize I am non-NT

idk man she seems to still care about you
just cant do FWB anymore because she has the feelings

it's time to either LTR her or continue looking for validation on tinder and bumble
if you actually did shit with her she probably didnt mind your autism

 

[Deleted member 275]

idk man she seems to still care about you
just cant do FWB anymore because she has the feelings

it's time to either LTR her or continue looking for validation on tinder and bumble
if you actually did shit with her she probably didnt mind your autism

Only thing that I see is that I don't really see a future with her in the long long term. We are too different for that imo, she's already pretty settled/calm and is just looking for stability. While I feel like moving to Thailand and changing my entire life or doing random weird unsustainble self-destructive shit.

But in the short term ltr would be great ngl. I could send her a msg. Chances are high she is dating some other guy tbh and at that point I could move on anyways since nothing will happen anymore. Closure.

And yeah that's what I liked a lot too is that she didn't seem to mind my autism a lot like u say. I think it's cuz I mog her in looks slightly tbh, and gave her a lot of feelings with good hugs.

 

[BrendioEEE]

Fwb is bluepilled, ltr is blackpilled

 

[AlexAP]

So it's true. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

 

[Deleted member 275]

So it's true. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

Nah women are the gatekeepers of both since normal relationships start with sex within the first 3 dates and women have way too many options for both scenarios anyways.

My last gf broke up with me and wanted to be fwb instead of in a relationship. I rejected her fwb and wanted LTR or nothing instead, which she refused.
Kinda opposite scenario now jfl. It's more about my state of being mentally at the time and now.

Also both of these girls have had numerous relationships, fwbs, ONS, etc. Much more experience than I have. I am a roookie. Just learning.

Which honestly means I should just do whatever I feel like since im just a fucking noob in dating and need to figure out what works and what doesnt by bumping against the limits. I should msg her ngl.

Even if I fuck up everything or come across as an abused dog, whatever, I am new to all of this shit so haters will always hate anyways

 

[volcelfatcel]

So it's true. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

You know it brother
Keep up those masculine virtues
Keep teasing her
Game her bro

 

[volcelfatcel]

Only thing that I see is that I don't really see a future with her in the long long term. We are too different for that imo, she's already pretty settled/calm and is just looking for stability. While I feel like moving to Thailand and changing my entire life or doing random weird unsustainble self-destructive shit.

But in the short term ltr would be great ngl. I could send her a msg. Chances are high she is dating some other guy tbh and at that point I could move on anyways since nothing will happen anymore. Closure.

And yeah that's what I liked a lot too is that she didn't seem to mind my autism a lot like u say. I think it's cuz I mog her in looks slightly tbh, and gave her a lot of feelings with good hugs.

Up to you
Who the fuck knows long long term, but prob better than looking on tinder 24/7 at least this way you have a solid stream of sex

 

[Deleted member 275]

Up to you
Who the fuck knows long long term, but prob better than looking on tinder 24/7 at least this way you have a solid stream of sex

Well idc about the sex that much. I went on nofap late august and it made me horny enough that I wanted to fuck (lowtier) beckies which I rejected before being on nofap. But the sex was mediocre, the dates were meh, and all in all I could only conclude it wasn't worth the effort/time.

my sexgame is weak ngl. Sex can be good, can be bad. it's like 50/50 for me. 50% of the time i wouldve rather masturbated.

Great sex is rare also. But cuddling with her was always good, and I always felt chilled/calm around her which was a blessing compared to my ex who made me anxious asf sometimes.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Well idc about the sex that much. I went on nofap late august and it made me horny enough that I wanted to fuck (lowtier) beckies which I rejected before being on nofap. But the sex was mediocre, the dates were meh, and all in all I could only conclude it wasn't worth the effort/time.

my sexgame is weak ngl. Sex can be good, can be bad. it's like 50/50 for me. 50% of the time i wouldve rather masturbated.

Great sex is rare also. But cuddling with her was always good, and I always felt chilled/calm around her which was a blessing compared to my ex whomade me anxious asf sometimes.

constant stream of sex + ltr benefits

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Legit broke down earlier about this already wondering why I self sabotage my life so fucking hard when I get opportunities like this handed to me.

Abused dog mentality cant believe it. Legit 0 self-esteem and self sabotage my life because if it, thinking i dont deserve a good life.

Felt that

Fucking sucks when you have opportunities with girls, but with 0 self esteem and abused dog mentality you just ruin so much for yourself making it even worse, has happened to me

 

[Deleted member 275]

Felt that
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Fucking sucks when you have opportunities with girls, but with 0 self esteem and abused dog mentality you just ruin so much for yourself making it even worse, has happened to me

Yup, not the first time for me either.

What's the cure for abused dog syndrome honestly? This shit is not going away. Like how the fuck do I still feel unattractive to women when I had a fwb for 6 months that would tell me often that I made her all wet n shit? makes no fucking sense jfl my brain is still stuck in my childhood where I was subhuman and treated with disgust.

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

Seems like you developed some feelings for that hoe, sorrow and desperation ooze from the cracks of your wall of text there (nigga). Unfortunately, you cannot go back, if you lose it and tell her you want LTR she will see you as the beta cuck bitch ass nigga (which you are), and that will dry her pussy. You might get some more action but it will end in ruins, trust me nig

 

[Deleted member 275]

if you lose it and tell her you want LTR she will see you as the beta cuck bitch ass nigga (which you are), and that will dry her pussy. You might get some more action but it will end in ruins, trust me nig

Sounds like a good learning experience for someone who has only started dating women since 2 years ago and has no clue about how any of this shit works in the real world.

I trust you, but I still rather experience the failure than not.

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Yup, not the first time for me either.

What's the cure for abused dog syndrome honestly? This shit is not going away. Like how the fuck do I still feel unattractive to women when I had a fwb for 6 months that would tell me often that I made her all wet n shit? makes no fucking sense jfl my brain is still stuck in my childhood where I was subhuman and treated with disgust.

Yeah, I get a few matches here and there on dating apps but my no self esteem and abused dog mentality prevents me from going on dates because I think "why would they want me", "what if she finds out i’m a rotter", "I don’t deserve a relationship", and shit like that, as a result of years of loneliness and no validation. For what it’s worth you had an fwb though, mind sharing how you got one with low self esteem and the like?

 

[Deleted member 275]

Yeah, I get a few matches here and there on dating apps but my no self esteem and abused dog mentality prevents me from going on dates because I think "why would they want me", "what if she finds out i’m a rotter", "I don’t deserve a relationship", and shit like that, as a result of years of loneliness and no validation. For what it’s worth you had an fwb though, mind sharing how you got one with low self esteem and the like?

lots of dates and getting lucky from one of them. Start talking with ur tindermatches and you will notice that some show real interest and start writing paragraphs back to you. Go on dates with those.

This latest girl I invited over and we made dinner together + I made cocktails for her afterwards. After that invited her up to my room to watch a movie, we ended up having sex and from there it went on.

I got kinda lucky with losing my KHHV status at 23yo with what became my ex-girlfriend. Met on Tinder, we had really fun conversations through whatsapp for like 2 weeks, met-up and she knew I was a virgin beforehand (but larped i had kissed girls before). She went in for the kiss after we had coffee and invited me over to have sex at her place after we ate lunch together.

Just keep going on dates with girls that look acceptable in looks (when they dont ull be uninterested and these dates never go well tbh). spam dates and get lucky.

 

[Baldingman1998]

yeah, that opportunity has passed. Was feeling down back then so can't really blame myself for wanting to self-isolate it's what I do when i feel like shit ngl.

>now you'll look like an abused dog in her eyes

yeah thats the big issue like, if a girl I was dating sent me a msg like that, I dont think I would respect her. At the same time, I have nothing to lose at this point jfl. Even if I looks like an abused dog, i wont see this girl anymore ever again in my life if i dont msg her so who cares rite? idk

And at the same time im like, why the fuck cant I date some other girl and LTR her instead? But that's very low probality tbh. I've had 2 failed dates since breaking up 2 months ago and dating apps make me want to kms at this point.

Try your luck. Yolo. You're getting older all or nothing. Is she hot btw?

 

[Mrddi]

Ngl I'm not reading all that you bastards

 

[Deleted member 275]

I saw her at the grocery store today, vibe was good, sent her a msg afterwards and we are meeting up.

 

[Xangsane]

Nah she was high body-count. I doubt she fucked other guys during that period though.

"i WaNt A rElAtiOnsHiP": 98% of women with a high body count

She isn't worth LTRing based on this alone. Dump her, block her.