IF YOU WANT TO GROW AND ARE NOT TAKING AN AROMATASE INHIBITOR, GENUINLY WHAT ARE YOU EVEN DOING?

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

If you wanna have more Testosterone during puberty, wanna grow taller and escape all Estrogenic downsides during Puberty like bad dimorphism, gyno etc..., you should definnitely take the way, backed by studies, an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI).


Side effects:

There are no (long term) side effects after hopping off the medication, exept for the THEORY (wich makes sense), that your brain will develop different and youll think more Androgenic, the longer your on it. During the treatment you will experience a loss in bone mineral density wich may lead to a higher chance of getting fractures, joint pain if you do sports that involve sprinting and running, and thats about it.

Wich AI to chose?

There are 3 different medications your most likely familiar with. Anastrozole/Arimidex, Letrozole and Aromasin/Exemestane.
Even though its as well known, if not even better known then the two others, Aromasin isnt used to treat shortness in Kids. Possibly because it sless studied than Adex and letro, so we cant give any statement with certainty that it is/would be as effective as Letro and adex, but it will most likely be not far behind.
to the question if Adex or Letro is better, theres a short answer. In most studies ive seen, Arimidex was the most effective.

What to expect:

With a longterm AI treatment, we have seen that the Predicted Adult Height (PAH) has been surpassed by 6.7cm-10.8-15cm. All these studies were either done on Growth Hormone defficient (GHD) kids, wich doesnt matter, when considering were manipulating the Estrogen pathway, or on kids with Idiopathic short stature (ISS) wich is literally being shorter than you should be for no reason. Wich means, that this could be you. treated kids had no excess or super high Estrogen levels. Just normal ones. Most likely like you.

How to optimize Your protocol:

As your Growth Hormone (GH) production will be slightly lower due to low estrogens, you cam get Higher levels with:

-Synthetic HGH
-GH releasing Peptides
-Mk-677
Oxandrolone/Anavar

(spoiler: HGH is best)

-Dont use Testosterone!

Some people will disagree with me on this one and think that androgens wont close your Growthplates, or accelerate bone aging on its own, it does. So Id recommend if you only go for Height, Only block Estrogens and raise your HGH.



Now hop on an AI, or throw away your chance.
Keep Ascending, Buddy Boyos.

 

[TheOsei]

Read every molecool

aromasin is the surperior ai

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

@Zagro @Linus1888 @high_ltn

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Read every molecool

aromasin is the surperior ai

Adex is superior imo.

 

[Zagro]

If you wanna have more Testosterone during puberty, wanna grow taller and escape all Estrogenic downsides during Puberty like bad dimorphism, gyno etc..., you should definnitely take the way, backed by studies, an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI).


Side effects:

There are no (long term) side effects after hopping off the medication, exept for the THEORY (wich makes sense), that your brain will develop different and youll think more Androgenic, the longer your on it. During the treatment you will experience a loss in bone mineral density wich may lead to a higher chance of getting fractures, joint pain if you do sports that involve sprinting and running, and thats about it.

Wich AI to chose?

There are 3 different medications your most likely familiar with. Anastrozole/Arimidex, Letrozole and Aromasin/Exemestane.
Even though its as well known, if not even better known then the two others, Aromasin isnt used to treat shortness in Kids. Possibly because it sless studied than Adex and letro, so we cant give any statement with certainty that it is/would be as effective as Letro and adex, but it will most likely be not far behind.
to the question if Adex or Letro is better, theres a short answer. In most studies ive seen, Arimidex was the most effective.

What to expect:

With a longterm AI treatment, we have seen that the Predicted Adult Height (PAH) has been surpassed by 6.7cm-10.8-15cm. All these studies were either done on Growth Hormone defficient (GHD) kids, wich doesnt matter, when considering were manipulating the Estrogen pathway, or on kids with Idiopathic short stature (ISS) wich is literally being shorter than you should be for no reason. Wich means, that this could be you. treated kids had no excess or super high Estrogen levels. Just normal ones. Most likely like you.

How to optimize Your protocol:

As your Growth Hormone (GH) production will be slightly lower due to low estrogens, you cam get Higher levels with:

-Synthetic HGH
-GH releasing Peptides
-Mk-677

(spoiler: HGH is best)

-Dont use Testosterone!

Some people will disagree with me on this one and think that androgens wont close your Growthplates, or accelerate bone aging on its own, it does. So Id recommend if you only go for Height, Only block Estrogens and raise your HGH.



Now hop on an AI, or throw away your chance.
Keep Ascending, Buddy Boyos.

Androgens don’t close your plates

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Androgens don’t close your plates

What about the accelerate plate closure when on Anavar monotherapy? i mean your e2 wont be high + the bones aged around 2 times as fast.

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

@Сигма Бой

 

[Сигма Бой]

HGH am poop

 

[Zagro]

What about the accelerate plate closure when on Anavar monotherapy? i mean your e2 wont be high + the bones aged around 2 times as fast.

Anavar increases height gain in studies with rhGH.

Androgens don’t ossify the plates they just mature chondrocytes quicker and the final thing needed in this process is estrogen which is inhibited largely with an aromatase inhibitor, bone aging isn’t a worry on aromatase inhibitors

Your e2 wont be high doesn’t mean that it wont be slingering around 30-40pg

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Anavar increases height gain in studies with rhGH.

Androgens don’t ossify the plates they just mature chondrocytes quicker and the final thing needed in this process is estrogen which is inhibited largely with an aromatase inhibitor, bone aging isn’t a worry on aromatase inhibitors

Your e2 wont be high doesn’t mean that it wont be slingering around 30-40pg

havent seen studies combining both. can you link one pls?
nvm, ill just search.

 

[Zagro]

havent seen studies combining both. can you link one pls?
nvm, ill just search.

Oxandrolone for growth hormone-treated girls aged up to 18 years with Turner syndrome - PubMed

Addition of oxandrolone to the GH therapy led to a modest increase in the final adult height of girls aged up to 18 years with TS. Adverse effects identified included virilising effects such as deepening of the voice, but reporting was inadequate in some trials.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[0ptimized]

mirin, good thread

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

mirin, good thread

Thanks bro, appreciate it.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

If you wanna have more Testosterone during puberty, wanna grow taller and escape all Estrogenic downsides during Puberty like bad dimorphism, gyno etc..., you should definnitely take the way, backed by studies, an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI).


Side effects:

There are no (long term) side effects after hopping off the medication, exept for the THEORY (wich makes sense), that your brain will develop different and youll think more Androgenic, the longer your on it. During the treatment you will experience a loss in bone mineral density wich may lead to a higher chance of getting fractures, joint pain if you do sports that involve sprinting and running, and thats about it.

Wich AI to chose?

There are 3 different medications your most likely familiar with. Anastrozole/Arimidex, Letrozole and Aromasin/Exemestane.
Even though its as well known, if not even better known then the two others, Aromasin isnt used to treat shortness in Kids. Possibly because it sless studied than Adex and letro, so we cant give any statement with certainty that it is/would be as effective as Letro and adex, but it will most likely be not far behind.
to the question if Adex or Letro is better, theres a short answer. In most studies ive seen, Arimidex was the most effective.

What to expect:

With a longterm AI treatment, we have seen that the Predicted Adult Height (PAH) has been surpassed by 6.7cm-10.8-15cm. All these studies were either done on Growth Hormone defficient (GHD) kids, wich doesnt matter, when considering were manipulating the Estrogen pathway, or on kids with Idiopathic short stature (ISS) wich is literally being shorter than you should be for no reason. Wich means, that this could be you. treated kids had no excess or super high Estrogen levels. Just normal ones. Most likely like you.

How to optimize Your protocol:

As your Growth Hormone (GH) production will be slightly lower due to low estrogens, you cam get Higher levels with:

-Synthetic HGH
-GH releasing Peptides
-Mk-677

(spoiler: HGH is best)

-Dont use Testosterone!

Some people will disagree with me on this one and think that androgens wont close your Growthplates, or accelerate bone aging on its own, it does. So Id recommend if you only go for Height, Only block Estrogens and raise your HGH.



Now hop on an AI, or throw away your chance.
Keep Ascending, Buddy Boyos.

This is false estrogen is crucial during puberty u don’t wanna crush it that’s just retarted and that gh shit is cope. Genetics are genetics

 

[Zagro]

This is false estrogen is crucial during puberty u don’t wanna crush it that’s just retarted and that gh shit is cope. Genetics are genetics

 

[vvd]

recommending aromatase inhibitors and not mentioning the hair loss bit even once is ridiculous work

do better retard

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

You guys come up with the most retarted shit and then act like your high iq it’s embarrassing just give it up lil bro

 

[vvd]

also this is completely bullshit after i took a second look of this thread, why would u ever take ai's with no test or hgh? estrogen is just as important for looks as test why would you rape it? idiot thread

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

recommending aromatase inhibitors and not mentioning the hair loss bit even once is ridiculous work

do better retard

yeah, Im bald after 2 months. also I think every other Kid will be bald after a few months

 

[Zagro]

You guys come up with the most retarted shit and then act like your high iq it’s embarrassing just give it up lil bro

Its hilarous that you don’t know a singular thing nor read any studies, embarassing bro

yeah, Im bald after 2 months. also I think every other Kid will be bald after a few months

Yeah bro we’re all norwood 3 on aromatase inhibitors ugh, jokes aside ignore these niggas this is the equivalent of ragebait

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

also this is completely bullshit after i took a second look of this thread, why would u ever take ai's with no test or hgh? estrogen is just as important for looks as test why would you rape it? idiot thread

Have you even read the thread? btw all claims are backed with studies. wtf are you taling about. Im literally nuking my e2. And im growing more t´han ever before.

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

This is false estrogen is crucial during puberty u don’t wanna crush it that’s just retarted and that gh shit is cope. Genetics are genetics

Proud E2 raper.

 

[King.epstein]

For how long should I take AIs and what dosage ?

 

[vvd]

Have you even read the thread? btw all claims are backed with studies. wtf are you taling about. Im literally nuking my e2. And im growing more t´han ever before.

- yeah im heightmaxxing
> what do you take?
- uhhh im on aromasin 4 months
> fucking retard

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

For how long should I take AIs and what dosage ?

Till you reach your deired Height or your Growth plates are closed. The AI dosage depends on your E2 levels. But generally 1mg Adex/day is what I do and is used in studies.

 

[King.epstein]

Thanks bro, I’m going to hop on test the next weeks, will this affect anything ?

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

- yeah im heightmaxxing
> what do you take?
- uhhh im on aromasin 4 months
> fucking retard

not even month 4 buddy, and already grew more than the 6 the months before.
Fucking retarded to Ldar and talk others shit. Tell me why its retarded. Im using claims backed by studies.

 

[vvd]

Thanks bro, I’m going to hop on test the next weeks, will this affect anything ?

take test low dose with ai then increase test to 500+

 

[Zagro]

- yeah im heightmaxxing
> what do you take?
- uhhh im on aromasin 4 months
> fucking retard

“How did you guess that i don’t know a singular thing about heightmaxxing”

 

[vvd]

not even month 4 buddy, and already grew more than the 6 the months before.
Fucking retarded to Ldar and talk others shit. Tell me why its retarded. Im using claims backed by studies.

late puberty theory

 

[Trojanhorse1]

Adex is superior imo.

Elaborate

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

late puberty theory

They always say puberty but dont realize I did bloods, optimized IGF 1 TEST and E2.
Maybe sherlock will connect the Using of Drugs and start of Height spurt.

 

[vvd]

They always say puberty but dont realize I did bloods, optimized IGF 1 TEST and E2.
Maybe sherlock will connect the Using of Drugs and start of Height spurt.

u will forever be a manlet in your heart

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Elaborate

no studies on Aromasin. and overall the e2 levels matter, not the compound. so if you do bloods every AI is fine.

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

u will forever be a manlet in your heart

True.

 

[Brian Weber]

Oxandrolone for growth hormone-treated girls aged up to 18 years with Turner syndrome - PubMed

Addition of oxandrolone to the GH therapy led to a modest increase in the final adult height of girls aged up to 18 years with TS. Adverse effects identified included virilising effects such as deepening of the voice, but reporting was inadequate in some trials.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Apparently, Var has no bone age effects for the first 3 months of treatment, then after that it does accelerate bone age in the presence of normal estrogen but I do agree that if an AI is used that this effect can be easily mitigated and then some.

 

[Trojanhorse1]

no studies on Aromasin. and overall the e2 levels matter, not the compound. so if you do bloods every AI is fine.

What about the estrogen rebound?

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

What about the estrogen rebound?

Aromasin wwill be the best, as it Kills the Enzyme. But thats not relevamt as we use it once for a prolonged period of time. no breaks.

 

[Org3cel]

Anavar increases height gain in studies with rhGH.

Androgens don’t ossify the plates they just mature chondrocytes quicker and the final thing needed in this process is estrogen which is inhibited largely with an aromatase inhibitor, bone aging isn’t a worry on aromatase inhibitors

Your e2 wont be high doesn’t mean that it wont be slingering around 30-40pg

Anavar alone isnt kinda useless?
I dont have money for more then 6ius of HGH boyos, should I hope on cope677
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

 

[Zagro]

Apparently, Var has no bone age effects for the first 3 months of treatment, then after that it does accelerate bone age in the presence of normal estrogen but I do agree that if an AI is used that this effect can be easily mitigated and then some.

Interesting how does this even work do the androgens avoid bone tissue for the first 3 months, of course not but i don’t see how it would any other way thanks for letting me know man

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Interesting how does this even work do the androgens avoid bone tissue for the first 3 months, of course not but i don’t see how it would any other way thanks for letting me know man

But is growth velocity higher in the first 3 months? Interesting.

 

[Zagro]

But is growth velocity higher in the first 3 months? Interesting.

It aging bone after 3 months would mean that the growth velocity wont be even increased in those months but this just simply doesn’t make sense

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Anavar alone isnt kinda useless?
I dont have money for more then 6ius of HGH boyos, should I hope on cope677
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

no. But if taken with no AI it will only increase Heightgrowth and growth velocity in relation of around 1:1, so it will not affect FH

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

It aging bone after 3 months would mean that the growth velocity wont be even increased in those months but this just simply doesn’t make sense

Yeah, thast what I thought

 

[Zagro]

Anavar alone isnt kinda useless?
I dont have money for more then 6ius of HGH boyos, should I hope on cope677
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

Any androgenic compound does the job to be honest, anavar isn’t even allat

 

[Org3cel]

no. But if taken with no AI it will only increase Heightgrowth and growth velocity in relation of around 1:1, so it will not affect FH

Should I take ezetimibe for FH?
And no to which question, var or 677?

 

[Trojanhorse1]

Aromasin wwill be the best, as it Kills the Enzyme. But thats not relevamt as we use it once for a prolonged period of time. no breaks.

So there is no really no significant diffrence between the two

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Should I take ezetimibe for FH?
And no to which question, var or 677?

Combine them with an AI. with FH i meant Final Height. sry shoulve used Adultheight (AH)

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

So there is no really no significant diffrence between the two

if you dont stop, no there isnt.

 

[Org3cel]

Combine them with an AI. with FH i meant Final Height. sry shoulve used Adultheight (AH)

Im already on an AI, so should I take both?
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @Zagro
20mg var and 20mg 677 for the huzz?