Is jaw implants needed or just a Genioplasty? How much movement is needed for my genio?

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I can't trimax now due to the recovery will try later plus genio is the best roi surgery I have seen on this site and I very much have a recessed chin. Jaw implants might help but im 18 so maybe thru Test cycles and training jaw and neck I won't need it but if I'm getting a genio I might as well do that at the same time as well. Do I truly need it? Also if you have any other tips I needa do lmk
 

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The thing is with ramus u kinda have to just bite the bullet, but good news, its overrated. U could just get a small implant that lengthens vertically, but as little as possible as it can really fuck things up
 
The thing is with ramus u kinda have to just bite the bullet, but good news its overrated. U could just get a small implant that lengthens vertically, but as little as possible as it can really fuck things up
You think I just need vertical length nothing for width?
 
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The thing is with ramus u kinda have to just bite the bullet, but good news, its overrated. U could just get a small implant that lengthens vertically, but as little as possible as it can really fuck things up
type of ramus do i have?
 
Get down your body fat percentage first. It's hard to understand your bone structure at this level.
 
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You think I just need vertical length nothing for width?
U could do a bit for width too, front is most important but ur width isnt that bad. But just look at jaw implants on google, they are all underwhelming tbh.

As for genio, I dont really know what looks best on black phenos as chin tends to be behind lips but sliding genio is gold standard in general and quite cheap & not that invasive. Might be worth looking what BlackGymMaxx did, although he used filler i beleive

Also how lean are u?
 
Get down your body fat percentage first. It's hard to understand your bone structure at this level.
pretty lean already gonna start reta soon though i am flexing in this pic you can still see
 

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U could do a bit for width too, front is most important but ur width isnt that bad. But just look at jaw implants on google, they are all underwhelming tbh.

As for genio, I dont really know what looks best on black phenos as chin tends to be behind lips but sliding genio is gold standard in general and quite cheap & not that invasive. Might be worth looking what BlackGymMaxx did, although he used filler i beleive

Also how lean are u?
I'm kinda flexing in this but I'm somewhat lean idk bf but abs are somewhat noticeable not flexing. Would you say genio or jaw implant is needed more for me? Would the vertical length help the front or side more I want to get pretty conservative movements for that tbh jaw implants are weird sometimes
 

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pretty lean already gonna start reta soon though i am flexing in this pic you can still see
Yeah your body doesn't match your face in terms of fat percentage ig. Maybe you are bloated.
 
I'm kinda flexing in this but I'm somewhat lean idk bf but abs are somewhat noticeable not flexing. Would you say genio or jaw implant is needed more for me? Would the vertical length help the front or side more I want to get pretty conservative movements for that tbh jaw implants are weird sometimes
1 option could be BSSO with 3 point landing to increase height, though that will only increase height past where the BSSO cut is. Idk if u have an over bite tho.

If not that then I would just say sliding genio would be good ROI.

Ur jaw isnt that bad, not uncommon at all for ur pheno
 
1 option could be BSSO with 3 point landing to increase height, though that will only increase height past where the BSSO cut is. Idk if u have an over bite tho.

If not that then I would just say sliding genio would be good ROI. ur jaw isnt that bad, not uncommon at all for ur pheno
Thing is I have an edge to edge leaning underbite you can see my bite in the first photo
 
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your face looks pretty fat while your body is lean, you should do fat dissolvers like dr lipo+ v or smth
 
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your face looks pretty fat while your body is lean, you should do fat dissolvers like dr lipo+ v or smth
Partial BFR mogs all that shit, also i think hes just quite young, so its just baby fat that will dissapear
 
your face looks pretty fat while your body is lean, you should do fat dissolvers like dr lipo+ v or smth
Dropping bf also wouldn’t hurt but imma look into those
 
I would say genioplasty first, then reassess
 

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