Is there anyway to change nose width without surgery

[RylanO]

This is a better photo of my nose but it’s actually may wider than it looks

 

[Vrowding]

GH

 

[fattofat]

Accutante and tretinoin will change is slightly

 

[carti lover]

This is a better photo of my nose but it’s actually may wider than it looksView attachment 5177515

ur nose isnt even bad its ur jaw

 

[RylanO]

GH

If your referring to the copper peptide “Ghk-cu” it doesn’t shrink your nose because it’s a healing tripeptide

ur nose isnt even bad its ur jaw

Complete opposite. Read caption

 

[Vrowding]

If your referring to the copper peptide “Ghk-cu”

Complete opposite. Read caption

I meant growth hormone buddy

 

[carti lover]

If your referring to the copper peptide “Ghk-cu” it doesn’t shrink your nose because it’s a healing tripeptide

Complete opposite. Read caption

HOw is it the compelte oppisite ur midface is long and ur gonial angle is also horrid therefor ur jaw looks narrow as fuck from the front your mouth looks overly wide because of ur jfa so it does NOT harmonise with ur nose

 

[RylanO]

I meant growth hormone buddy

Hgh?

 

[Vrowding]

Hgh?

yes

 

[RylanO]

yes

Hgh doesn’t shrink your nose bro

 

[Vrowding]

Hgh doesn’t shrink your nose bro

I thought you were asking to make it bigger, you didn't really specify

 

[RylanO]

I thought you were asking to make it bigger, you didn't really specify

Sorry I should’ve been more direct

 

[RylanO]

HOw is it the compelte oppisite ur midface is long and ur gonial angle is also horrid therefor ur jaw looks narrow as fuck from the front your mouth looks overly wide because of ur jfa so it does NOT harmonise with ur nose

how is my gonial angle horrid

 

[carti lover]

how is my gonial angle horrid

extremely narrow jfa = bad gonial angle

 

[RylanO]

extremely narrow jfa = bad gonial angle

How can I fix it

 

[carti lover]

How can I fix it

bone structure issue you cant sadly

 

[RylanO]

bone structure issue you cant sadly

I thought you could get a ccw rotation to fix gonial angle

 

[carti lover]

I thought you could get a ccw rotation to fix gonial angle

and how would you get ccw rotation without surgery

 

[RylanO]

and how would you get ccw rotation without surgery

I’m only 14 so I don’t need it

 

[carti lover]

I’m only 14 so I don’t need it

I’m “only” 14 to and our facial bones are 95% done developing so good luck getting ccw it’s practically impossible

 

[terlound]

This is a better photo of my nose but it’s actually may wider than it looksView attachment 5177515

alar width isnt the problem, its the just you have narrow lips which makes your nose look wider in proportion. just fraud this with lip liner unless you wanna hardmaxx

 

[terlound]

I’m “only” 14 to and our facial bones are 95% done developing so good luck getting ccw it’s practically impossible

bite blocks would do wonders at 14 lol

 

[carti lover]

bite blocks would do wonders at 14 lol

“Wonders” except it fucks up your bite unless you have an open bite

 

[terlound]

“Wonders” except it fucks up your bite unless you have an open bite

only temporarily, not permanently. they improve your bite long term

 

[carti lover]

only temporarily, not permanently. they improve your bite long term

how do they improve it long term? Posterior bite blocks are used to close open bites + they will not shift bones you are not going to reverse downward growth + rotate your jaw any noticeable amount and most likely not at all

 

[terlound]

how do they improve it long term? Posterior bite blocks are used to close open bites + they will not shift bones you are not going to reverse downward growth + rotate your jaw any noticeable amount and most likely not at all

each case is different, no way of knowing how it'll affect this dude until you see his bite.

 

[carti lover]

each case is different, no way of knowing how it'll affect this dude until you see his bite.

wether or not his bite is open he will not gain any ccw from bite blocks they do not shift bones

 

[terlound]

wether or not his bite is open he will not gain any ccw from bite blocks they do not shift bones

" bite blocks can facilitate counterclockwise (CCW) rotation of the mandible."

Assessment of the efficacy of various maxillary molar intrusion therapies: a systematic review - PMC

To systematically assess the efficacy of the various interventions used to intrude maxillary molars. Furthermore, to evaluate associated root resorption, stability of intrusion, subsequent vertical movement of mandibular molars, cost effectiveness, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[carti lover]

" bite blocks can facilitate counterclockwise (CCW) rotation of the mandible."

Assessment of the efficacy of various maxillary molar intrusion therapies: a systematic review - PMC

To systematically assess the efficacy of the various interventions used to intrude maxillary molars. Furthermore, to evaluate associated root resorption, stability of intrusion, subsequent vertical movement of mandibular molars, cost effectiveness, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

lmao bite blocks + tads + rmi NO orthodontist is going to give someone tads who does not need it and his parents certainly would not want him having screws drilled into his gums lmao especially after the orthodontist consult proves he does not need them

 

[terlound]

lmao bite blocks + tads + rmi NO orthodontist is going to give someone tads who does not need it and his parents certainly would not want him having screws drilled into his gums lmao especially after the orthodontist consult proves he does not need them

well you don't know his bite, why do you keep making retarded assumptions? theres no way to know until you know his bite

 

[carti lover]

well you don't know his bite, why do you keep making retarded assumptions? theres no way to know until you know his bite

I don’t need to know his bite to know that his jaw isn’t going to widen and have ccw from bite blocks I can’t believe this is even a debate BITE BLOCKS CANNOT SHIFT BONES and if his mandible rotated like you claim posterior bite blocks would make it without the maxilla rotating then that would only result in a overly short lower third

 

[terlound]

I don’t need to know his bite to know that his jaw isn’t going to widen and have ccw from bite blocks I can’t believe this is even a debate BITE BLOCKS CANNOT SHIFT BONES and if his mandible rotated like you claim posterior bite blocks would make it without the maxilla rotating then that would only result in a overly short lower third

hes 14, it will facilitate proper development and growth giving better rotation long term, but you are right it would harm overall facial harmony.

 

[carti lover]

hes 14, it will facilitate proper development and growth giving better rotation long term, but you are right it would harm overall facial harmony.

the craniofacial development is 90% finished developing by 13 if his ccw is bad now it will be bad when he’s 20

 

[terlound]

the craniofacial development is 90% finished developing by 13 if his ccw is bad now it will be bad when he’s 20

Mandible doesn't stop growing til about 18 or 19 in most males. By 14 I agree, pretty much everything is fully done e.g. zygomatic bones, infra orbitals, maxilla, supraorbitals etc. However this does not include the mandible, it continues growing past this age.

 

[carti lover]

Mandible doesn't stop growing til about 18 or 19 in most males. By 14 I agree, pretty much everything is fully done e.g. zygomatic bones, infra orbitals, maxilla, supraorbitals etc. However this does not include the mandible, it continues growing past this age.

90% done growing by 13

 

[terlound]

90% done growing by 13

10% of 18cm is 18mm btw, do you know how much 18mm of mandible growth does for your lower third? 13-18mm of mandible growth is incredible even though its only "10%"

 

[carti lover]

10% of 18cm is 18mm btw, do you know how much 18mm of mandible growth does for your lower third? 13-18mm of mandible growth is incredible even though its only "10%"

that isn’t how it works the growth is not only foward it could be lateral or downward

 

[terlound]

that isn’t how it works the growth is not only foward it could be lateral or downward

well that depends doesnt it

 

[carti lover]

well that depends doesnt it

no it doesn’t depend there is 0 chance of him getting 1.8cms of jaw foward growth it’s lateral and downward like I saw his jaw has already grown downward so anything more is just going to mess up his tfwhr and facial thirds even more

 

[Oeroji]

If you're talking about nose width, use fme, marpe, or maspe. If you're talking about nose length, wait till you're 18 (if your nose isn't at desired length) get a rhinoplasty.

 

[carti lover]

If you're talking about nose width, use fme, marpe, or maspe. If you're talking about nose length, wait till you're 18 (if your nose isn't at desired length) get a rhinoplasty.

why would you reccomend a 14 yr old maspe

 

[Oeroji]

why would you reccomend a 14 yr old maspe

The sooner the better. He already is competing with Epsteins.

 

[loakzie]

I’ve heard abt hydrocortisone doing wonders

 

[carti lover]

The sooner the better. He already is competing with Epsteins.

maspe is used when the palatal split is bound to fail and needs surgical assistance