Just had a mindblowing realization that shatters the myth of IQ being important

[disillusioned]

Well ok sort of. If you have sub-90 IQ it is still pretty over for you.

It's well known that IQ correlates massively with success and income. The conventional wisdom then has been to suggest IQ matters for everything (for why else would IQ correlate so heavily with success and income?)

But I just had a massive realization that undermines this notion...

What if the correlation between high IQ and high achievement, is artificially forced as a byproduct of a flawed educational system?

Think about it. How does anybody get a good high-paying job now, or is allowed to do much of fucking anything, unless they go to some fancy university and study a bunch of bullshit that they will never use? Bullshit, that still non-the-less requires skills (math etc) that heavily correlate with IQ?

Consider that Al Capone, one of the most notorious gangsters ever, only had an IQ of 95. What that bloke stupid? No he wasn't. It just so happened that because he was a gangster, nobody gave a shit about his 'credentials'.

Understand that modern society is not some free-for-all meritocracy where everyone is free to succeed on their own terms. We live inside of a system with a pre-determined set of rules. According to those rules, you are only allowed to be successful if you possess the skills that the system has decided you must have.

Imagine if the whole concept of a degree/education vanished. How much would IQ correlate with success, now that graduating at advanced math and other such useless horseshit is no longer needed?

Sure there would still be jobs where IQ matters. Programming etc. But it wouldn't shock me if much of the correlation between IQ and success was merely an artificial byproduct of the system.

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

IQ is for fags, it's a dorky loser trait. Jocks who cant read fuck, stemcels dream about 2D women

 

[cracka]

IQ is a lot more genetic than it is environmental

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Good take probably true to some degree. Definitely agree that iq alone can’t save you but I’m a cripple so my experience is irrelevant

 

[JosephGarrot123]

IQ is important imo. Atleast you aren't retarded or mentally disabled in some sort of way. You can never relate to another human being and will always be Non-NT It's a bad fate. Emotions and IQ go hand in hand, because it's both in the cognitive part of the brain. I have lack of emotions which makes me hard for me to empathize or relate to another human being. I don't even know how to act with other people.

 

[Midgetcel]

just be good looking an everything will take care of itself, you could be a drooling retard it doesn't really matter.

 

[ETO]

Well ok sort of. If you have sub-90 IQ it is still pretty over for you.

It's well known that IQ correlates massively with success and income. The conventional wisdom then has been to suggest IQ matters for everything (for why else would IQ correlate so heavily with success and income?)

But I just had a massive realization that undermines this notion...

What if the correlation between high IQ and high achievement, is artificially forced as a byproduct of a flawed educational system?

Think about it. How does anybody get a good high-paying job now, or is allowed to do much of fucking anything, unless they go to some fancy university and study a bunch of bullshit that they will never use? Bullshit, that still non-the-less requires skills (math etc) that heavily correlate with IQ?

Consider that Al Capone, one of the most notorious gangsters ever, only had an IQ of 95. What that bloke stupid? No he wasn't. It just so happened that because he was a gangster, nobody gave a shit about his 'credentials'.

Understand that modern society is not some free-for-all meritocracy where everyone is free to succeed on their own terms. We live inside of a system with a pre-determined set of rules. According to those rules, you are only allowed to be successful if you possess the skills that the system has decided you must have.

Imagine if the whole concept of a degree/education vanished. How much would IQ correlate with success, now that graduating at advanced math and other such useless horseshit is no longer needed?

Sure there would still be jobs where IQ matters. Programming etc. But it wouldn't shock me if much of the correlation between IQ and success was merely an artificial byproduct of the system.

IQ is important for everything, in a fight u need fast reactions, spatial awareness of yourself and excellent visual processing

 

[metagross]

Well ok sort of. If you have sub-90 IQ it is still pretty over for you.

It's well known that IQ correlates massively with success and income. The conventional wisdom then has been to suggest IQ matters for everything (for why else would IQ correlate so heavily with success and income?)

But I just had a massive realization that undermines this notion...

What if the correlation between high IQ and high achievement, is artificially forced as a byproduct of a flawed educational system?

Think about it. How does anybody get a good high-paying job now, or is allowed to do much of fucking anything, unless they go to some fancy university and study a bunch of bullshit that they will never use? Bullshit, that still non-the-less requires skills (math etc) that heavily correlate with IQ?

Consider that Al Capone, one of the most notorious gangsters ever, only had an IQ of 95. What that bloke stupid? No he wasn't. It just so happened that because he was a gangster, nobody gave a shit about his 'credentials'.

Understand that modern society is not some free-for-all meritocracy where everyone is free to succeed on their own terms. We live inside of a system with a pre-determined set of rules. According to those rules, you are only allowed to be successful if you possess the skills that the system has decided you must have.

Imagine if the whole concept of a degree/education vanished. How much would IQ correlate with success, now that graduating at advanced math and other such useless horseshit is no longer needed?

Sure there would still be jobs where IQ matters. Programming etc. But it wouldn't shock me if much of the correlation between IQ and success was merely an artificial byproduct of the system.

The "skills that the system decided you must have", are correlated themselves with IQ though.
And IQ has predictive validity on these things, not the other way around.


If you have an IQ of 140, you will probably do very well on standardized tests and in school in general.
If you have an IQ of 80, you will probably not do too well. It is also correlated with time preference and other things.

Economists once did a study, looking at time preference in countries and GDP per capita and found that it's positively correlated. The thing is that it's even more so correlated with IQ, but economists are afraid of conducting studies on IQ, so they used "time preference" instead. Anyway, it's also predictive of how well a society is run.

 

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[chadison]

Interesting thread though, I'll have to ponder those ideas a bit more

 

[Kekee]

Well ok sort of. If you have sub-90 IQ it is still pretty over for you.

It's well known that IQ correlates massively with success and income. The conventional wisdom then has been to suggest IQ matters for everything (for why else would IQ correlate so heavily with success and income?)

But I just had a massive realization that undermines this notion...

What if the correlation between high IQ and high achievement, is artificially forced as a byproduct of a flawed educational system?

Think about it. How does anybody get a good high-paying job now, or is allowed to do much of fucking anything, unless they go to some fancy university and study a bunch of bullshit that they will never use? Bullshit, that still non-the-less requires skills (math etc) that heavily correlate with IQ?

Consider that Al Capone, one of the most notorious gangsters ever, only had an IQ of 95. What that bloke stupid? No he wasn't. It just so happened that because he was a gangster, nobody gave a shit about his 'credentials'.

Understand that modern society is not some free-for-all meritocracy where everyone is free to succeed on their own terms. We live inside of a system with a pre-determined set of rules. According to those rules, you are only allowed to be successful if you possess the skills that the system has decided you must have.

Imagine if the whole concept of a degree/education vanished. How much would IQ correlate with success, now that graduating at advanced math and other such useless horseshit is no longer needed?

Sure there would still be jobs where IQ matters. Programming etc. But it wouldn't shock me if much of the correlation between IQ and success was merely an artificial byproduct of the system.

Cope thread. Jews mog and you know it.

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Being high IQ is beneficial. You should be ahead of the competition with a high IQ and good knowledge. However the correlation between IQ and earnings is very weak. Its a positive correlation but its not particularly severe. As long as your not retarded, other factors will affect your earning income more then IQ.

 

[ManletBlackcel]

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

just be good looking an everything will take care of itself, you could be a drooling retard it doesn't really matter.

True, autistic Chad gets million views and girls drooling over him

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

The "skills that the system decided you must have", are correlated themselves with IQ though.
And IQ has predictive validity on these things, not the other way around.


If you have an IQ of 140, you will probably do very well on standardized tests and in school in general.
If you have an IQ of 80, you will probably not do too well. It is also correlated with time preference and other things.

Economists once did a study, looking at time preference in countries and GDP per capita and found that it's positively correlated. The thing is that it's even more so correlated with IQ, but economists are afraid of conducting studies on IQ, so they used "time preference" instead. Anyway, it's also predictive of how well a society is run.

I think you missed the point of ops post

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Also this is why whites own most businesses despite curries and gooks being highest iq and taking up most of the stemcell jobs. You would think that asians would own most businesses due to iq since its correlated with general success. No, its correlated for how well you can work for creative and visionary people, which whites have an abundance of compared to all other races.

 

[Deleted member 3573]

Agreed. A person's natural personality is probably the most important factor. That's why many entrepreneurs aren't the absolute smartest but because they have a higher T personality, they're more successful

 

[Slothcel]

My IQ is not enough to get a good job and earn a lot of money, but it is enough to yearn to be loved by a woman who attracts me

 

[Deleted member 11610]

IQ is for fags, it's a dorky loser trait. Jocks who cant read fuck, stemcels dream about 2D women

Well said

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Also this is why whites own most businesses despite curries and gooks being highest iq and taking up most of the stemcell jobs. You would think that asians would own most businesses due to iq since its correlated with general success. No, its correlated for how well you can work for creative and visionary people, which whites have an abundance of compared to all other races.

That's facts creative people make the most money. But only the best creators make it, asian stemcels and jews are good at remembering info and using formulas made by visionary white men. But they dont truly understand them