May have been scammed of 2000 dollars by online casino.

[MoggerGaston]

I make a little bit of money on the side by betting in casino's when there's opportunities for positive RTP. Positive RTP is when the odds are in your favor instead of the casino's, so you expect to make money on the long-term instead of losing it.
Usually it's only a couple of percentages though, so over the long run it should only be a couple hundred dollars a year from what I've calculated. Thus more of a hobby than a serious venture.

Today it seemed like I was getting lucky though, which would compensate for the money I lost in the past doing this tactic, as I've had an unlucky streak so far despite doing all the right calculations and knowing I was making the right bets.

Dealer accidentally threw my card on the ground when I had a blackjack against a 6 of the dealer, which is an auto-win. Some service employee came to pick up the cards, put them back on the table, and they said the round was 'cancelled'. Despite there being cameras everywhere that would clearly show I got dealt a blackjack against a 6? JFL.
Also made screenshots of the table's interface showing that I had a blackjack. The dealer even congratulated me and told me it would be sorted out.

I opened a dispute, but they just said they were 'looking into it'.



fuck this shit. It was a HUGE sum of money aswell, 2000 dollars. I was planning on going on a holiday with this money.

It's like my fucking truecel-tier lack of luck in life never ceases to follow me, everywhere I go.
Like what are the odds the dealer just happens to throw my cards on the ground just as I was dealt the perfect hand on the ONE hand I was playing and had to win. There was no second hand, no second opportunity, since I was playing a very specific bet when the odds were in my favor.

God is putting me to the test. Telling me to LDAR and give up tbh.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Absolutely brutal ngl. I literally have video-evidence of them giving me a blackjack. Might have to start a lawsuit or some shit.

If only I was chad with 50k Instagram followers I could just make a public post calling them out, or threaten to do it, and they would refund me instantly to avoid negative publicity.

chad always wins. Another subChad scammed of the money he was entitled to win.

 

[Vermilioncore]

Sorry that happened rich mofo, next time think before you act

 

[AscensionMan98]

Wait you said this is a online casino but saying that the employee threw your card or some shit . I'm confused

Some user from here who I'm talking to claims to have made 40000 from a few hundred over the course of 6 months playing baccarat .

Could be elebarate larp but his mood seems highly positive so he's happy about something clearly .

 

[MoggerGaston]

Sorry that happened rich mofo, next time think before you act

I wish I was rich, I am 100k in debt unfortunately.
But I always keep some money on the side so I can make use of good opportunities like this. And have something to fall back on in case of unforeseen expenses.

Last year I bought a cheap speaker-set for 700 dollars because I found a really good deal, managed to sell it for 1000 dollars easily. Can't hustle like that without having money ready.

My bets in these casino's are carefully calculated and double-checked to make sure they are truly done in my favor, with a significant edge over the casino.

It was a calculated big-brain move, that simply might not pay off now due to sheer bad truecel luck.

 

[Enfant terrible]

I wish I was rich, I am 100k in debt unfortunately.
But I always keep some money on the side so I can make use of good opportunities like this. And have something to fall back on in case of unforeseen expenses.

Last year I bought a cheap speaker-set for 700 dollars because I found a really good deal, managed to sell it for 1000 dollars easily. Can't hustle like that without having money ready.

My bets in these casino's are carefully calculated and double-checked to make sure they are truly done in my favor, with a significant edge over the casino.

It was a calculated big-brain move, that simply might not pay off now due to sheer bad truecel luck.

wtf how

 

[Sprinkles]

The jews control whoever wins

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

Online casino is how Amnesia made millions. But when a subhuman does it he gets scammed @apemaxxed @ascension

 

[MoggerGaston]

Wait you said this is a online casino but saying that the employee threw your card or some shit . I'm confused

It's an online casino that has dealers in a studio somewhere playing blackjack and other casino games, while you interact with an online interface, place bets, etc.

All the cards have an electronic chip, when they are drawn and given to players, they are scanned as they are dragged over the table. This dealer drew my card, but flipped if of the table, meaning it wasn't scanned. It was then retrieved from the floor, shown, and then assigned to my hand without it being dragged over the table in the way it should've been. Since the card still wasn't properly scanned, their computer system couldn't register my win. Which lead to the hand being 'cancelled'.

A brutal scam.

Some user from here who I'm talking to claims to have made 40000 from a few hundred over the course of 6 months playing baccarat .

Could be elebarate larp but his mood seems highly positive so he's happy about something clearly .

Seems very unlikely, but happy for him. Atleast some incel is winning somewhere.

 

[MoggerGaston]

wtf how

I gambled my student loans on financial derivatives to become a millionaire.

I made 250k out of the 100k, before losing it all trying to get to a million. Student loans have lenient payback rules here, so it doesn't really affect me as much as you think.

Just saw it as an easy way to get out of this truecel hell, but it didn't work-out. I don't regret doing it, I only regret not winning.

 

[MoggerGaston]

The jews control whoever wins

This is especially true in the stock market where a powerful (jewish) inner circle trades with insider knowledge. While average fucks like us can't.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Online casino is how Amnesia made millions. But when a subhuman does it he gets scammed @apemaxxed @ascension

Chad wins, Subhumans lose. That's how the world works.

I need to find a place in life where subhumans aren't heavily outcompeted by chads. I am yet to find it.

 

[AscensionMan98]

I wish I was rich, I am 100k in debt unfortunately.
But I always keep some money on the side so I can make use of good opportunities like this. And have something to fall back on in case of unforeseen expenses.

Last year I bought a cheap speaker-set for 700 dollars because I found a really good deal, managed to sell it for 1000 dollars easily. Can't hustle like that without having money ready.

My bets in these casino's are carefully calculated and double-checked to make sure they are truly done in my favor, with a significant edge over the casino.

It was a calculated big-brain move, that simply might not pay off now due to sheer bad truecel luck.

Damn bro how did you get in 100k debt.

And its godo to keep money on the side for opportunities , but I would say rather then gambling on these rigged casino games you should look into gambling on OUT of the money options on long term stocks like AMD, or play crypto related stocks like COIN ( its a crypto trading platform ), or RIOT or MARA ( bitcoin mining companies ). Coin moves 3-4x as much as bitcoin, and the mining stocks 6-8x of bitcoin. So If bitcoin goes to 100k, then a x7 bitcoin ROI from 15k-105k is a x56 Return on RIOT or MARA stock. And the use options and you get a net leverage of x2-4 depending on your entry and how far its out of the money.

Personally the RIOT and MARA options are a bit expensive now, but the COIN stock is still fairly affordable. It used to be 450 at its peak and bitcoin was like 60k at the time. So at 100k , it would be easily 700-800 imo. So you could still get some cheap option 200-300 range expiring in mid January of next year. Bitcoin went parabolic about 230 days from its previous bottom in march, so roughly October 2020- February 2021 it went nuts. Bitcoin bottomed November 2022, and now its July 23, or roughly 240 days from the bottom. So its likely a imminent hyper run where bitcoin goes 3-4x in price rapidly is likely, which would mean the options for COIN stock ticker and the RIOT and MARA will go parabolic.

Their is also AMD which has earnings coming up August 1st 4pm Eastern Standard Time. I think your 6 hours ahead in Netherlands time. You could gamble some options 10-15% OTM, or just buy some AMD contracts expiring in January 2024 at a price of 150-170. Its likely with good earnings it can easily hit the 300-400 range in 6-7 months.

NVIDIA was this AI Semi conductor stock ( like AMD ) that went from 130 to 420, so a little over x3 within a course o 6 months from January to one

Their is a lot of opportunity in this

 

[AscensionMan98]

It's an online casino that has dealers in a studio somewhere playing blackjack and other casino games, while you interact with an online interface, place bets, etc.

All the cards have an electronic chip, when they are drawn and given to players, they are scanned as they are dragged over the table. This dealer drew my card, but flipped if of the table, meaning it wasn't scanned. It was then retrieved from the floor, shown, and then assigned to my hand without it being dragged over the table in the way it should've been. Since the card still wasn't properly scanned, their computer system couldn't register my win. Which lead to the hand being 'cancelled'.

A brutal scam.

Seems very unlikely, but happy for him. Atleast some incel is winning somewhere.

I think the only way you can beat the casino is in person, and more importantly if you can somehow make friends with the casino man , and then see if you can offer a bribe to casino guy for him to deliberately be weak or clumsy dealer, and then occasionally exploit that, being careful to occasionally lose so they don't get suspicious .

And then rotate in other casinos.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Damn bro how did you get in 100k debt.

I gambled my student loans on financial derivatives to become a millionaire.

I made 250k out of the 100k, before losing it all trying to get to a million. Student loans have lenient payback rules here, so it doesn't really affect me as much as you think.

Just saw it as an easy way to get out of this truecel hell, but it didn't work-out. I don't regret doing it, I only regret not winning.

And its godo to keep money on the side for opportunities , but I would say rather then gambling on these rigged casino games you should look into gambling on OUT of the money options on long term stocks like AMD, or play crypto related stocks like COIN ( its a crypto trading platform ), or RIOT or MARA ( bitcoin mining companies ). Coin moves 3-4x as much as bitcoin, and the mining stocks 6-8x of bitcoin. So If bitcoin goes to 100k, then a x7 bitcoin ROI from 15k-105k is a x56 Return on RIOT or MARA stock. And the use options and you get a net leverage of x2-4 depending on your entry and how far its out of the money.

Personally the RIOT and MARA options are a bit expensive now, but the COIN stock is still fairly affordable. It used to be 450 at its peak and bitcoin was like 60k at the time. So at 100k , it would be easily 700-800 imo. So you could still get some cheap option 200-300 range expiring in mid January of next year. Bitcoin went parabolic about 230 days from its previous bottom in march, so roughly October 2020- February 2021 it went nuts. Bitcoin bottomed November 2022, and now its July 23, or roughly 240 days from the bottom. So its likely a imminent hyper run where bitcoin goes 3-4x in price rapidly is likely, which would mean the options for COIN stock ticker and the RIOT and MARA will go parabolic.

Their is also AMD which has earnings coming up August 1st 4pm Eastern Standard Time. I think your 6 hours ahead in Netherlands time. You could gamble some options 10-15% OTM, or just buy some AMD contracts expiring in January 2024 at a price of 150-170. Its likely with good earnings it can easily hit the 300-400 range in 6-7 months.

NVIDIA was this AI Semi conductor stock ( like AMD ) that went from 130 to 420, so a little over x3 within a course o 6 months from January to one

Their is a lot of opportunity in this

This is basically what I did with my student-loans. I had them in long OTM calls in a tech stock. Went good for a while as it went from 100k to 250k, but then it quickly went to 0 as expiry date came closer. Brutal.

 

[MoggerGaston]

I think the only way you can beat the casino is in person, and more importantly if you can somehow make friends with the casino man , and then see if you can offer a bribe to casino guy for him to deliberately be weak or clumsy dealer, and then occasionally exploit that, being careful to occasionally lose so they don't get suspicious .

And then rotate in other casinos.

Yeah you basically have to cheat to win. The casino in general is a losing game.

I make use of certain promotions that are designed to draw new people in, to make my profit. But as it turns out, they rigged that shit too.

 

[Tyrone06]

I make a little bit of money on the side by betting in casino's when there's opportunities for positive RTP. Positive RTP is when the odds are in your favor instead of the casino's, so you expect to make money on the long-term instead of losing it.
Usually it's only a couple of percentages though, so over the long run it should only be a couple hundred dollars a year from what I've calculated. Thus more of a hobby than a serious venture.

Today it seemed like I was getting lucky though, which would compensate for the money I lost in the past doing this tactic, as I've had an unlucky streak so far despite doing all the right calculations and knowing I was making the right bets.

Dealer accidentally threw my card on the ground when I had a blackjack against a 6 of the dealer, which is an auto-win. Some service employee came to pick up the cards, put them back on the table, and they said the round was 'cancelled'. Despite there being cameras everywhere that would clearly show I got dealt a blackjack against a 6? JFL.
Also made screenshots of the table's interface showing that I had a blackjack. The dealer even congratulated me and told me it would be sorted out.

I opened a dispute, but they just said they were 'looking into it'.



fuck this shit. It was a HUGE sum of money aswell, 2000 dollars. I was planning on going on a holiday with this money.

It's like my fucking truecel-tier lack of luck in life never ceases to follow me, everywhere I go.
Like what are the odds the dealer just happens to throw my cards on the ground just as I was dealt the perfect hand on the ONE hand I was playing and had to win. There was no second hand, no second opportunity, since I was playing a very specific bet when the odds were in my favor.

God is putting me to the test. Telling me to LDAR and give up tbh.

its crazy losing that much i just lost 20 dollars today on gamblnig site and it was crazy

 

[AscensionMan98]

its crazy losing that much i just lost 20 dollars today on gamblnig site and it was crazy

20$ is nothin

 

[MoggerGaston]

its crazy losing that much i just lost 20 dollars today on gamblnig site and it was crazy

20 dollars is a bigmac menu

just skip food for a day and ur back in the green

 

[MoggerGaston]

I just sent another e-mail to get this shit sorted and still no response.

Fuck my life. I think I lost 2000 dollars. Ill snort away the pain with ketamine tomorrow.

 

[AscensionMan98]

I gambled my student loans on financial derivatives to become a millionaire.

I made 250k out of the 100k, before losing it all trying to get to a million. Student loans have lenient payback rules here, so it doesn't really affect me as much as you think.

Just saw it as an easy way to get out of this truecel hell, but it didn't work-out. I don't regret doing it, I only regret not winning.

Lmao I'm doing that with a few thousand $, except it's not debt . I'm considering a loan of a few thousand on crypto.


Also I didn't know u could gamble student loans. I thought it was locked in some escrow account that paid out to the school directly , not allowing you to play with the money . If you can play with the money then it's more of a personal loan and that's crazy that you could play with that.

 

[MoggerGaston]

It's basically confirmed now, they are not giving my money.
I'll have to start a lawsuit or something, but it's probably a lost cause.

JFL at life honestly, just another nail in the coffin. I don't really see the point in doing anything other than LDAR at this point since life seems to never stop giving me shit I am ENTITLED to.
Literally place a bet and WIN, I am ENTITLED to my winnings, and I DO NOT get it.
How do you think the casino would response if I placed a bet, LOST, and then just took the money I bet and left the casino?

Yeah exactly, they would call the fucking police on me n shit. Fucking faggot world, retard society.

I hate everything, everyone. Everyone is out to get me, life is hell. I hate human life.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

@russiancel your brother in misfortune

 

[Artbreeder Is Law]

You have nothing to lose go and makE justice for youRself they have to pay.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I gambled my student loans on financial derivatives to become a millionaire.

I made 250k out of the 100k, before losing it all trying to get to a million. Student loans have lenient payback rules here, so it doesn't really affect me as much as you think.

Just saw it as an easy way to get out of this truecel hell, but it didn't work-out. I don't regret doing it, I only regret not winning.

Based gambling is fun as shit

I've lost like 500 dollars and i said that out loud in school once without realizing how fucked it actually was at 18 years old

 

[_MVP_]

Solution: crime

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

I know the feeling. Years back, I was betting the horses on a Brazilian gambling site. I had a trifecta lining up for the finish. I was ecstatic! Because I knew it would've paid $36,004.27. As the horses, MY HORSES were about to cross the finish line, the jockey on the first horse grabbed his ear and started talking. I zoomed in and saw he wore an earbud. He was talking to someone on the phone. Suddenly, he pulled back on the horse and punched the back of its head multiple times. Then he started kicking it in its side till the horse stopped to toss his ass off.

Ugh. I lost. That horse had to be first for the trifecta.

 

[MoggerGaston]

When I lost, I accepted my loss. I've used this strategy many times before, and although I am placing bets with an edge in my favor, there's still a large degree of luck to it. Only in the long-term with enough bets, will this strategy always net you money.

I am about 1000 dollars in the negative due to bad luck with this strategy from the past year. I've accepted that loss and the casino profited from me. I knew my calculations were right and the pendulum will swing in my favor in the future as long as I keep going.
The advantage I have over the casino is large enough for 1 win (like this 2000 dollar one) to make up for my misfortune in the past.

Yesterday my strategy finally worked out in my favor. Everything was calculated, if I got a blackjack, which is about a 5% chance, I would win BIG. And I did get the blackjack.

Then, the stars of the galaxy, once again, aligned to make my life a living hell.

'A subhuman for once winning in life? No, we can't have that. That's not how nature intended for things to work.'

Through god's intervention, the dealer drawing my card had a 'spontaneous' jolt of electricity created in his nerves, causing him to make a spastic movement and throw my card on the ground.
Literally never seen this happen before and I've seen/played THOUSANDS of blackjack hands at online casinos like this.

Only god's intervention, the spontaneous creation of electromagnetic radiation in the dealer's nervous system, could make me lose at this point.

I am done. I am finished.

While the 2000 dollars isn't crucial to my life or anything. I've lost a hundred thousand dollar betting on financial derivatives for fuck sake. I am used to losing, losing big. That's the incel life after all.

But still I feel extremely depressed about this situation. Feel like roping.

What's the point of trying when god will literally INTERVENE in the world to make my life hell. Take away even the smallest amount of happiness, the smallest wins.

Thinking of quitting everything I am doing right now. My studies, my job, the place I live at, this forum, everything. I am fucking done. This is the final straw.

 

[AscensionMan98]

I gambled my student loans on financial derivatives to become a millionaire.

I made 250k out of the 100k, before losing it all trying to get to a million. Student loans have lenient payback rules here, so it doesn't really affect me as much as you think.

Just saw it as an easy way to get out of this truecel hell, but it didn't work-out. I don't regret doing it, I only regret not winning.


This is basically what I did with my student-loans. I had them in long OTM calls in a tech stock. Went good for a while as it went from 100k to 250k, but then it quickly went to 0 as expiry date came closer. Brutal.

I lost like 15k gambling on a bunch of options over the last 2 years but for once now in a net profit. I think things will continue going up till the end of the year due to this " soft landing " and " inflation cooling" argument. But once oil prices break above the previous ATH , like 145$ in 2008 ( adjusted for inflation its 220$ today ) , I think we can expect some stock market major correction.

AMD has coming earnings. And then for crypto the Coinbase moves on average 3-4x of bitcoin. So a rally to 10k would be like at least 20x return on coinable or mid 600s. Its like 100 now, so some option like 200-250 would be a good idea expiring end of the year.

OR just a few grand on some AI crypto coins. AI is the hype. any of the big market ones like top 20 would see some thousand %+ returns easily imo. Crypto alts whatever is hot will trend. Last bull market was NFT, almost all of the big market cap ones top 20 and above had 50-500x return . I don't think we will see returns like that but 30-50x is easily possible.

And you can just use a trialing stop once its in profit, but its better to just have a price manually you want to exit, vs using a trailing stop and then having a scam wick. But having that big of a scam wick espeically majorly in profit is not likely tbh. Up to you.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Just received the final verdict;

After careful investigation of your situation, we regret to confirm that the relevant hand in Blackjack that has been retrospectively approved will not count towards this particular tournament.
As previously communicated and also stated in the tournament terms and conditions, only settled bets within the period from July 17th to July 23rd can be included in the final standings.
Since the approval of the hand in question fell outside this set period, it is not possible to include it in the final result.

Fucking over. Literally scammed out of 2000 dollars. I won during their tournament, and this was retrospectively confirmed. Which would've granted me 2000 dollars of winnings. But because they didn't approve my winnings during the tournament period, but afterwards, I was left out.

JFL at this fucking shit. Can you fucking imagine?

When will my truecel luck end? When will I finally see that life has something good to offer to me?

 

[MoggerGaston]

@mrriceguy @AscensionMan98 @Marsik
brutal

 

[Deleted member 24444]

@mrriceguy @AscensionMan98 @Marsik
brutal

You are one bet away from winning 250m $ bhai

 

[MoggerGaston]

You are one bet away from winning 250m $ bhai

I don't do those types of bets anymore. Those were my young wild days.

I keep my bets to highly-leveraged equity positions now at most. I have stock positions in TSMC and BTI on a 3.5x leverage right now.

I don't do options/financial derivatives anymore.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

I don't do those types of bets anymore. Those were my young wild days.

I keep my bets to highly-leveraged equity positions now at most. I have stock positions in TSMC and BTI on a 3.5x leverage right now.

I don't do options/financial derivatives anymore.

@Makhachev come here from some wisdom

 

[MoggerGaston]

@Makhachev come here from some wisdom

It's brutal tbh.

It's 100% wisdom to invest on a leverage, take extra risk in your young days, because you need to time divest;
Early in life you have little wealth, so you need to leverage, later in life you are close to retirement and have a lot of wealth, so you need to deleverage, lower risk.

But I don't care that much about the long-term. I will be using my current investments for my hair-transplant, and then some travelling. Need to find the will to live before I start investing into my pension/retirement JFL.

Also I believe there could be some economy-/life-changing event coming in my life-time. Which might wipe-out the investments that I have.
So I need to prioritize the investment that can never get stolen from me: Myself and my experiences. My present happiness.

This casino thing is unfortunate. But I am past it already. Incel luck type shit, but I just need to keep going.

 

[AscensionMan98]

Just received the final verdict;



Fucking over. Literally scammed out of 2000 dollars. I won during their tournament, and this was retrospectively confirmed. Which would've granted me 2000 dollars of winnings. But because they didn't approve my winnings during the tournament period, but afterwards, I was left out.

JFL at this fucking shit. Can you fucking imagine?

When will my truecel luck end? When will I finally see that life has something good to offer to me?

What if you larp with some lawyer looking friend ( some tall white old cel ). Or just find a real lawyer and offer a pro bono deal ( threaten to sue for like 50k, and then settle for like 5k for the troubles ).

Doing a real lawsuit is a waste of money and not worth the lawyer fees. But if they are willing to settle you'll give like half your winnings , sometimes even 2/3. So you need to get a settlement of at least 6k to get your original winnings.

Also you should gamble with options tbh. Stick to longer time frames . Do out of the money as your gamble and some will work. Better then this casino shit tbh.

Also if you do try the casino see if you can rig the game with a inside man like a deliberately weak dealer or something and work a cut for him.

If you lose from time to time you'll be good

 

[MoggerGaston]

What if you larp with some lawyer looking friend ( some tall white old cel ). Or just find a real lawyer and offer a pro bono deal ( threaten to sue for like 50k, and then settle for like 5k for the troubles ).

Doing a real lawsuit is a waste of money and not worth the lawyer fees. But if they are willing to settle you'll give like half your winnings , sometimes even 2/3. So you need to get a settlement of at least 6k to get your original winnings.

I don't think it's worth it for this amount of money tbh. All the hassle and it's unclear whether I even really have chance at getting that money. I've taken the loss already.

Also you should gamble with options tbh. Stick to longer time frames . Do out of the money as your gamble and some will work. Better then this casino shit tbh.

Also if you do try the casino see if you can rig the game with a inside man like a deliberately weak dealer or something and work a cut for him.

If you lose from time to time you'll be good

Options/FD gambling definitely has better odds than the casino. You are right.
The casino is only positive EV for me during certain promotions, but it's mostly entertainment for me.

To make real money I would need to start some sort of company here in NL tbh.

 

[AscensionMan98]

I don't think it's worth it for this amount of money tbh. All the hassle and it's unclear whether I even really have chance at getting that money. I've taken the loss already.


Options/FD gambling definitely has better odds than the casino. You are right.
The casino is only positive EV for me during certain promotions, but it's mostly entertainment for me.

To make real money I would need to start some sort of company here in NL tbh.

I'm saying only go the lawyer route if their willing to go for a portion of settlement . If the kike lawyers ask for a hourly rate then just find another one.

Some mediocre lawyer would probably be willing to take the gamble considering they over hired and now too many normies are lawyers.

Obviously having a good one is hard to find and thus would want hourly but some ones would work on a comission .

You could also send some sort of " cease and desist " letter for fraud and deliver some fake bullshit lawsuit to their office. They might just send the money your owed to keep their scam going .

But yea this is only worth it if you can somehow Try to sue for a much higher amount like 50-100k, and then you anchor a higher number in their heads so when the settlement meeting comes hopefilly they go to what you realistically were hopping for which is like 5-10k, and then lawyer gets half which is 2.5-5k.

Realistically speaking the money is gone but tbh if your dead broke this is something to consider ( as long as your not gonna do any bullshit hourly fees with lawyers ). Just pitch the idea and maybe some ambitious lawyer might take it . If not it's not like your worse off