Me after double jaw surgery (surgeon's morph)

[Short Ugly and Brown]

This is what I would look like AFTER double jaw surgery aka bimax with 7-8mm of upper and lower jaw advancement + 6degrees of CCW

My surgeon did this morph

As you can see, even in this after, I STILL LOOK LIKE SHIT

I SWEAR TO GOD, MY JAW RECESSION, NARROWNESS, AND SHAPE ARE ALL THE REASON WHY IM ON HERE

MY LOWER THIRD IS LEGIT 0/10, IT FUCKS MY FACE SO MUCH

I might as well wrap a rag with superglue to cover my lowerthird, and get rhino/cheekbone implants for nose to fix my mid face, and then ascend by betabuxxing in Iran for a wife

Is bimax even worth it if this is my after result?

(me rn on left )

 

[Golden Glass]

Mogs the real you to oblivion

 

[Vermilioncore]

Worth it. Worse case scenario rope

 

[LookistWorld]

After double jaw you could do implants. Don't do them with a recessed maxilla/mandible though.

 

[Hades]

If this is the after, I don’t even want to know what the before looked like..

 

[Golden Glass]

Also

 

[Deleted member 2846]

no maxilla for your surgery

 

[Golden Glass]

no maxilla for your surgery

Real talk he has *mental issues if he can’t see that bimax morph as a huge improvement.





*we already know he does but still

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

If this is the after, I don’t even want to know what the before looked like..

I just added the before

please don't make fun of me ive never had a girlfriend my face gives me panic attacks I want to rope so bad

please help me bro

ive never had a girlfriend, never had a kiss, sex, hug, anything

im literally gonna be a KHHTV at 18 in 26 days (im 17rn)

Real talk he has *mental issues if he can’t see that bimax morph as a huge improvement.





*we already know he does but still

I just added the before

 

[HurtfulVanity]

Do it bro if your parents allow it. It will at least make you look normie but your eye area will carry your face as long you arent deformed anymore. Gl bro hope you get it done.

 

[LookistWorld]

I just added the before

please don't make fun of me ive never had a girlfriend my face gives me panic attacks I want to rope so bad

please help me bro

ive never had a girlfriend, never had a kiss, sex, hug, anything

im literally gonna be a KHHTV at 18 in 26 days (im 17rn)

I just added the before

Much better in the after. Also with your current looks you could have lost at LEAST HHT by now if you were NT

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

Do it bro if your parents allow it. It will at least make you look normie but your eye area will carry your face as long you arent deformed anymore. Gl bro hope you get it done.

Much better in the after. Also with your current looks you could have lost at LEAST HHT by now if you were NT

is my front better than my side facially?

or are both fucked?

 

[Golden Glass]

I just added the before

please don't make fun of me ive never had a girlfriend my face gives me panic attacks I want to rope so bad

please help me bro

ive never had a girlfriend, never had a kiss, sex, hug, anything

im literally gonna be a KHHTV at 18 in 26 days (im 17rn)

I just added the before

I’ll make a gif with a superimposition of the after onto the before, to highlight the changes, tomorrow.

But, you have to keep in mind that profile is the least important, when considering 3/4 and frontal.Those should hugely improve.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

You mog me to oblivion, even subhumans here mog the fuck out of me. I'm gonna die after getting killed for being an ugly recessed, boneless subhuman who accidentally looked at someone's girlfriend.

 

[HurtfulVanity]

is my front better than my side facially?

or are both fucked?

FACEandLMS rated my front a 6/10 and my side a 3/10

Yes your front looks good your side is utter horseshit but the bimax will give you an average side that you can always improve more later on. This now will at least give you liveable life.

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

Yes your front looks good your side is utter horseshit but the bimax will give you an average side that you can always improve more later on. This now will at least give you liveable life.

should I go to a different surgeon who will give me more mm's?

this surgeon says he can give me 7.5mm's on both jaws + 6 degrees of CCW without touching my chin

but I want to find a surgeon that can do 10mm's on both jaws instead of 7.5mm's

 

[Golden Glass]

should I go to a different surgeon who will give me more mm's?

this surgeon says he can give me 7.5mm's on both jaws + 6 degrees of CCW without touching my chin

but I want to find a surgeon that can do 10mm's on both jaws instead of 7.5mm's

I know two surgeons who’d be open to doing a Lefort III on you. Let me know if you’re low inhibition enough

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

I know two surgeons who’d be open to doing a Lefort III on you. Let me know if you’re low inhibition enough

who?

what are their names and ill do it as long as it is in USA

everything besides my orbitals are deformed/recessed

 

[Golden Glass]

who?

what are their names and ill do it as long as it is in USA

everything besides my orbitals are deformed/recessed

Yeah ones in Miami and the other in Australia. There’s another in Dallas but he seems less likely to do it on non deformed patients.
I’ll PM you

 

[HurtfulVanity]

should I go to a different surgeon who will give me more mm's?

this surgeon says he can give me 7.5mm's on both jaws + 6 degrees of CCW without touching my chin

but I want to find a surgeon that can do 10mm's on both jaws instead of 7.5mm's

If you can find a surgeon who will give you more advancement go for it. But didnt you already say before that most surgeons wont do that big of a change? Look for another if your confident you can find a surgeon who can do more tbh but that is already a huge improvement

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Yeah ones in Miami and the other in Australia. There’s another in Dallas but he seems less likely to do it on non deformed patients.
I’ll PM you

is there a surgery to help recessed orbitals

 

[tongue]

No surgery for your posture. Cranehead lookin nigga.

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

No surgery for your posture. Cranehead lookin nigga.

how do I fix my posture?

 

[Deleted member 2846]

how do I fix my posture?

why is ur mouth open

 

[tongue]

how do I fix my posture?

Just straighten yourself up, like you want to stand as tall as possible.
But the hard part is remembering to hold good posture, it's all subconscious.

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

why is ur mouth open

the surgeon instructed me to stand in a certain way with my chin relaxed

yes I know im subhuman facially, hence why im on here

 

[Over]

no maxilla for your surgery

the surgeon instructed me to stand in a certain way with my chin relaxed

yes I know im subhuman facially, hence why im on here

You have forward head posture wtf it looks bad and that open mouth? Are you mouth breathing or what

Get the surgery

 

[BigBiceps]

How much would it cost? If it's just a few grands, go for it.

 

[Deleted member 773]

The reason your face is pudgy and ugly is because you’ve been on dutasteride since 16.

 

[Deleted member 3583]

404 browridge

 

[Golden Glass]

is there a surgery to help recessed orbitals

Yeah.
Through osteotomy, you’d likely need bone grafts, and a surgeon even willing to try it on you (the two I mentioned being able to do Lefort IIIs on cosmetic cases would likely do so)but it would very tricky.

Through Implants it’s totally doable (Eppley has done it), but I imagine you’d still need a coronal incision, unless it’s made of silicone and separated into small pieces.

Here’s an example of a custom one Eppley made to a patients Specifications (note if you wanted it in something like PEEK, a coronal incision is almost definitely needed)

 

[curryslayerordeath]

Yeah.
Through osteotomy, you’d likely need bone grafts, and a surgeon even willing to try it on you (the two I mentioned being able to do Lefort IIIs on cosmetic cases would likely do so)but it would very tricky.

Through Implants it’s totally doable (Eppley has done it), but I imagine you’d still need a coronal incision, unless it’s made of silicone and separated into small pieces.

Here’s an example of a custom one Eppley made to a patients Specifications (note if you wanted it in something like PEEK, a coronal incision is almost definitely needed)
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Is there any reason to go for osteotomies in this area instead of implants?

 

[Golden Glass]

Is there any reason to go for osteotomies in this area instead of implants?

I guess personal preference against implants there. And certain implants like silicone can cause bone erosion.

For instance, in my case, one orbit is slightly less developed than the other, causing a depth asymmetry. Even if I got Orbital decompression in that eye, the rim sorrounding isn’t developed as much as the other. So I can either get an OBO to fix it, or implants. Personally, I’m still undecided, since the OBO doctor I’ve spoken to is very confident in being able to address it. And my personal preference is, to try to fix things with osteotomies, and only got for implants afterwards, but this is the case for me because I can afford it. If not. I may cut corners with implants there instead.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

I guess personal preference against implants there. And certain implants like silicone can cause bone erosion.

For instance, in my case, one orbit is slightly less developed than the other, causing a depth asymmetry. Even if I got Orbital decompression in that eye, the rim sorrounding isn’t developed as much as the other. So I can either get an OBO to fix it, or implants. Personally, I’m still undecided, since the OBO doctor I’ve spoken to is very confident in being able to address it. And my personal preference is, to try to fix things with osteotomies, and only got for implants afterwards, but this is the case for me because I can afford it. If not. I may cut corners with implants there instead.

I have the same issue but I think it’s due my whole maxilla being tilted towards one angle and I may wait for that to be fixed before evaluating my eyes.
Are you not scared about the risk of nerve and tissue damage in the eye area? Although it may be annoying near the jaws, I’d probably kill myself if I were blind.

 

[Golden Glass]

I have the same issue but I think it’s due my whole maxilla being tilted towards one angle and I may wait for that to be fixed before evaluating my eyes.
Are you not scared about the risk of nerve and tissue damage in the eye area? Although it may be annoying near the jaws, I’d probably kill myself if I were blind.

Yeah but the doctor who would do it is among the most experienced craniofacial surgeons ever. Likely top 5-10. He said that he could have a neurosurgeon present if it makes me feel more comfortable (since your brain is exposed, and another doctor who I spoke to requires a neuro to be present), but that he doesn’t need one because they come to him for advice all the time. He’s also done one of the highest numbers of Lefort IIIs.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

Yeah but the doctor who would do it is among the most experienced craniofacial surgeons ever. Likely top 5-10. He said that he could have a neurosurgeon present if it makes me feel more comfortable (since your brain is exposed, and another doctor who I spoke to requires a neuro to be present), but that he doesn’t need one because they come to him for advice all the time. He’s also done one of the highest numbers of Lefort IIIs.

Hm I believe I know who you’re talking about then lol. Have you seen the case of the person on jawsurgeryforums who got a MFL3 . He stated that there were very subtle differences that didn’t really result in a remarkable different and never reported back on complications.

 

[Golden Glass]

Hm I believe I know who you’re talking about then lol. Have you seen the case of the person on jawsurgeryforums who got a MFL3 . He stated that there were very subtle differences that didn’t really result in a remarkable different and never reported back on complications.

I never got to see Earl’s photos unfortunately, he removed them.

 

[Deleted member 4438]

You look like Indian Elvis from the side

 

[Golden Glass]

You look like Indian Elvis from the side

It’s the hideous sideburns. So WIDE.

 

[Deleted member 1106]

I know two surgeons who’d be open to doing a Lefort III on you. Let me know if you’re low inhibition enough

wait what? As in actual lefort 3 that moves the whole midface as oppose to a modified one?

 

[Golden Glass]

wait what? As in actual lefort 3 that moves the whole midface as oppose to a modified one?

Yes

 

[Deleted member 1106]

Yes

How do you resolve the disbalance of top and bottom jaw? Do you need to undergo another surgery that moves bottom jaw forward? Doesnt lefort 3 include lefort 1 area?

 

[zeno]

is 8mm advancement considered a lot? i would need more of it in my mandible lol..

 

[Ascensionrequired]

Looks way better. Mirrin your head posture though.

 

[Golden Glass]

How do you resolve the disbalance of top and bottom jaw? Do you need to undergo another surgery that moves bottom jaw forward? Doesnt lefort 3 include lefort 1 area?

Lefort III covers all a Lefort I covers, and a Lefort II covers, and more.

If you need it, you’d get your lower jaw operated on too. This is done all the time, it’s called bimax or double jaw surgery.

 

[zeno]

@Short Ugly and Brown after looks fine, i think profile just needs to look acceptable and not resseced, after that it doesnt matter that much, how many mm's do you think the rotation will take away from your philtrum?

@Golden Glass does it make sense to do imdo and bsso after for more advancement? i would need 1.5cm+ in my lower jaw, its very recessed, would that be possible?

 

[Deleted member 1106]

Lefort III covers all a Lefort I covers, and a Lefort II covers, and more.

If you need it, you’d get your lower jaw operated on too. This is done all the time, it’s called bimax or double jaw surgery.

I more meant to ask, if you do lefort 3 then wouldnt you also automatically need bsso? As you are advancing the top jaw forward? That's assuming you have a stable occlusion at the start of lefort 3 (like in the case of op).

 

[Griffith]

What are those sideburns LMAO

 

[Barbarossa_]

Get the surgery you pussy ass bitch
You are loaded you jew cunt, you can just get implants after surgery if you are not fully satisfied

 

[Catawampus]

Basically me jutting vs me not jutting