Money vs looks myths and facts

[user47283]

People here think the only thing making a guy incel is looks, no it is also money. Let me explain.

Low IQ psl user logic: this woman won’t have sex with this man. So he must be unnatractive to her. So looks are everything

Wrong there’s two scenarios,

1) Yes some men are truly hideous to women and even with money they’d at best receive some transactional form of romance but never genuine desire

2) This is usually the case. She thinks your cute but there is nothing differentiating you from the other guys that are also decent looking to her. You lack the finances to be seen as a serious long term partner who can take care of her so she will keep looking

There is a different between ONS power and LTR power, they’re not equivalent. Women don’t have more options than men, they just have an easier time getting laid. There’s an expression “Women fuck who they want men fuck who than can , but men marry who they want and women marry who they can”


Here is the actual spectrum:

ugly and broke:
- bottom 20% looks & finances
- truecel , unable to get ONS or LTR

ugly and rich:
- bottom 20% looks
- top 10% finance
- unable to get ONS (outside of escorts)
- can get LTR but is betabuxxing and the romance will only be transactional. Also she will cheat to gratify her sexual needs

decent looking and broke:
- 50th percentile in looks (for men age 20-35)
- bottom 20% financially
- can ONS via dumpster diving at bars
- unable to get LTR as cannot afford a gf and not hot enough to use physicality alone

decent looking and rich:
- 50th percentile looks ( men age 20-35)
- top 10% financially

Now this is the sweet spot. You’re attractiveness and money compliment each other very well. You are both attractive enough where she can be with you intimately and also her best LTR option.

This is any woman who is over the age of 28’s dream man. At around this age and up women realize they cannot compete at the same level they did in their younger years and are getting desperate to LTR before their eggs rot (there’s a reason the average age of marriage for a woman is 28).

You are basically one of the last branches before she hits the ground. After this she knows it’ll have to be the rich ugly man I mentioned earlier and women are horrified of that but will do it out of survival

You have the broadest appeal out of all men as you are both attractive and seem attainable unlike gigachad

Good looking and rich:
- You can get virtually any woman you want but you’re probably only gonna fuck with Staceys if you’re at this level making your dating pool smaller than the previous guy but of higher quality

most guys here overvalue looks because they are very young and yes girls only care about looks they are just starting their Chad cock carousel journey and if you’re not hot you are gonna have a tough time. However wait it out because women’s options dwindle and men, as long as you’re a decent looking guy, increase. No this is not redpill cuz I said decent looking, ugly and rich is cope.

 

[user47283]

People here think the only thing making a guy incel is looks, no it is also money. Let me explain.

Low IQ psl user logic: this woman won’t have sex with this man. So he must be unnatractive to her. So looks are everything

Wrong there’s two scenarios,

1) Yes some men are truly hideous to women and even with money they’d at best receive some transactional form of romance but never genuine desire

2) This is usually the case. She thinks your cute but there is nothing differentiating you from the other guys that are also decent looking to her. You lack the finances to be seen as a serious long term partner who can take care of her so she will keep looking

There is a different between ONS power and LTR power, they’re not equivalent. Women don’t have more options than men, they just have an easier time getting laid. There’s an expression “Women fuck who they want men fuck who than can , but men marry who they want and women marrt


Here is the actual spectrum:

ugly and broke:
- bottom 20% looks & finances
- truecel , unable to get ONS or LTR

ugly and rich:
- bottom 20% looks
- top 10% finance
- unable to get ONS (outside of escorts)
- can get LTR but is betabuxxing and the romance will only be transactional. Also she will cheat to gratify her sexual needs

decent looking and broke:
- 50th percentile in looks (for men age 20-35)
- bottom 20% financially
- can ONS via dumpster diving at bars
- unable to get LTR as cannot afford a gf and not hot enough to use physicality alone

decent looking and rich:
- 50th percentile looks ( men age 20-35)
- top 10% financially

Now this is the sweet spot. You’re attractiveness and money compliment each other very well. You are both attractive enough where she can be with you intimately and also her best LTR option.

This is any woman who is over the age of 28’s dream man. At around this age and up women realize they cannot compete at the same level they did in their younger years and are getting desperate to LTR before their eggs rot (there’s a reason the average age of marriage for a woman is 28).

You are basically one of the last branches before she hits the ground. After this she knows it’ll have to be the rich ugly man I mentioned earlier and women are horrified of that but will do it out of survival

You have the broadest appeal out of all men as you are both attractive and seem attainable unlike gigachad

Good looking and rich:
- You can get virtually any woman you want but you’re probably only gonna fuck with Staceys if you’re at this level making your dating pool smaller than the previous guy but of higher quality

most guys here overvalue looks because they are very young and yes girls only care about looks they are just starting their Chad cock carousel journey and if you’re not hot you are gonna have a tough time. However wait it out because women’s options dwindle and men as long as you’re a decent looking guy increase and no this is not redpill cuz I said decent looking, ugly and rich is cope.

not a molecule
DNR

 

[Deleted member 15305]

why do you waste time writing this shit

 

[user47283]

why do you waste time writing this shit

I need dopamine from notifications

 

[damnit]

a lot of people I know slay , that is have ons and fwb with single and even married/taken women just by money. Upper class (not exactly very rich) dudes slay a lot in my area.

 

[Lawton88]

"decent looking and well off financially" is struggling for LTR's with above average/good looking women now in my area as those women expect a near Chad with what social media has done to them (especially the ones that waited a long time to look for marriage so they could just screw Chads in the meantime).

 

[user47283]

"decent looking and well off financially" is struggling for LTR's with above average/good looking women now in my area as those women expect a near Chad with what social media has done to them (especially the ones that waited a long time to look for marriage so they could just screw Chads in the meantime).

“Above average/good looking women” when did I say expect to fuck Stacies at this tier ? Also you are crying about these women being hypergamous when the men you described literally have the same expectations. If they lowered their standards they’d be fine

 

[Lawton88]

“Above average/good looking women” when did I say expect to fuck Stacies at this tier ? Also you are crying about these women being hypergamous when the men you described literally have the same expectations. If they lowered their standards they’d be fine

I would say in my area the 30+ good looking but short of Stacy ones are rejecting most 6/10 and 5/10 guys even if they are really well off. They might use them for money while screwing others but they aren't marrying them for the most part. Years ago they were quick to marry them at that age however.

 

[user47283]

I would say in my area the 30+ good looking but short of Stacy ones are rejecting most 6/10 and 5/10 guys even if they are really well off. They might use them for money while screwing others but they aren't marrying them for the most part. Years ago they were quick to marry them at that age however.

Yes white women are like this tbh

 

[Lawton88]

Yes white women are like this tbh

It probably varies a lot by where you are located also and white women are the craziest with their standards though I got some good laughs watching that mess that Kevin Samuels puts on.

I guess if I had to make a broad generalization on what has changed in my area from years ago its all these 5/10 and 6/10 females expecting the guy for a LTR to be like a 7/10 now. You still see younger ones looksmatched a lot but it seems once they hit their high 20s and are still single they go into that "I am not settling" mode as far as marriage. There is probably going to be a lot of future cat ladies.

 

[court monarch777]

imagine to me i was unemployed and had girls wanting me but i couldn't even ask them out because i had 0 money

 

[Deleted member 14478]

Does this apply to bottom tier financially areas?

 

[datboijj]

there was a documentary of a 6ft 4 homless guy slaying women
and getting free stuff from them
and a place to stay
keep coping looks are everything
for now.....

 

[Deleted member 14478]

there was a documentary of a 6ft 4 homless guy slaying women
and getting free stuff from them
and a place to stay
keep coping looks are everything
for now.....

Name of the documentary?

 

[Prettyboy]

Looks are everything if you are ugly or good looking.

Anything in between the two you might need money or status too

 

[datboijj]

Name of the documentary?

@Prettyboy

 

[Prettyboy]

@Prettyboy

My role model not gonna lie

I dread nothing more in this life than having to work for some jewish master one day after I leave college, I’d rather be a neet but need to looksmax so stacies will betabuxx me

 

[datboijj]

My role model not gonna lie

I dread nothing more in this life than having to work for some jewish master one day , I’d rather be a neet but need to looksmax so stacies will betabuxx me

I already know a chad form discord who is a neet gammer
who has a beta boxing stacy nurse that married him
and pays all the bills
he sent plenty of pics as proof btw

 

[datboijj]

OP is just coping tbh

 

[noodlelover]

@Prettyboy

This one gave lots of guys hope.

It is from 2014 though. I wouldn't be surprised if the situation changed. I don't see any successful pickup artists in cities during the day anymore, and while that guy is good looking he might not be good looking enough for online.

But I still agree with the premise Looks > everything else, unless it's a 3rd world country and the women are actually starving.

 

[Deleted member 14478]

This one gave lots of guys hope.

It is from 2014 though. I wouldn't be surprised if the situation changed. I don't see any successful pickup artists in cities during the day anymore, and while that guy is good looking he might not be good looking enough for online.

But I still agree with the premise Looks > everything else, unless it's a 3rd world country and the women are actually starving.

Third worlder here, looks are still everything.
But obviously here looks are related to wealth and status.

 

[noodlelover]

Third worlder here, looks are still everything.
But obviously here looks are related to wealth and status.

A fuck, there goes my plan JBW 3rd world plan. lol

 

[user47283]

I already know a chad form discord who is a neet gammer
who has a beta boxing stacy nurse that married him
and pays all the bills
he sent plenty of pics as proof btw

And I know an attractive white woman married to a South Indian man. Exceptions don’t make the rule

 

[Mouthbreath]

 

[Deleted member 756]

And I know an attractive white woman married to a South Indian man. Exceptions don’t make the rule

Chin is life

 

[volcelfatcel]

Chin is life

Tall chin is what separates a male from a female.
Same with ramus

 

[Deleted member 756]

Tall chin is what separates a male from a female.
Same with ramus

I also think there is a no such thing as a long philtrum, it’s just that your chin is too short

Gandy technically has a “ long philtrum” but his giga chin makes up for it. Same with George Clooney, Rob Lowe, Brad Pitt, Somerhalder.

 

[Deleted member 14478]

I also think there is a no such thing as a long philtrum, it’s just that your chin is too short

Gandy technically has a “ long philtrum” but his giga chin makes up for it. Same with George Clooney, Rob Lowe, Brad Pitt, Somerhalder.

Who chinmogs? Gandy, Maher or my avi? Clooney is up there tho ngl imo
Is there a single good looking person (+6 PSL) with a bad/short chin?

 

[eduardkoopman]

I already know a chad form discord who is a neet gammer
who has a beta boxing stacy nurse that married him
and pays all the bills
he sent plenty of pics as proof btw

this is the ultimate!
Like how Meeks, has a gf that betabuxxes for him also,

It's the ultimate Chad thing.
If the woman is good looking, and betabuxxes for the man. WINNING

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

any woman who is over the age of 28’s dream man

ha! no thx jeff

 

[cantbreaktheice]

All Jokes aside. This shit is true. Whatever thr OP wrote might feel like someone kicking your blackpilled filled balls but its the goddamn truthpill.

 

[bgclub]

Okay as someone who makes $300k, i must say its a myth that money helps you get women for the most part. You dont just walk up to a woman u like and say "oh hey i make 6 figs". It hasnt helped me mostly cuz the conversation about money doesnt come until after the initial passing the looks threshold. Here are the caveats:

- ur able to SHOW you make a lot of money via displaying your lavish lifestyle on social media (u can fake this i guess)
- u r a millionaire or billionaire
- ur a well known famous athlete or actor who women can look up and see net worth

ya no women gonna want u if homeless but money buying women's interest is BS these days. a woman can make more than avg guy by selling her toe nail pics on OF

 

[Xangsane]

People here think the only thing making a guy incel is looks, no it is also money. Let me explain.

Low IQ psl user logic: this woman won’t have sex with this man. So he must be unnatractive to her. So looks are everything

Wrong there’s two scenarios,

1) Yes some men are truly hideous to women and even with money they’d at best receive some transactional form of romance but never genuine desire

2) This is usually the case. She thinks your cute but there is nothing differentiating you from the other guys that are also decent looking to her. You lack the finances to be seen as a serious long term partner who can take care of her so she will keep looking

There is a different between ONS power and LTR power, they’re not equivalent. Women don’t have more options than men, they just have an easier time getting laid. There’s an expression “Women fuck who they want men fuck who than can , but men marry who they want and women marry who they can”


Here is the actual spectrum:

ugly and broke:
- bottom 20% looks & finances
- truecel , unable to get ONS or LTR

ugly and rich:
- bottom 20% looks
- top 10% finance
- unable to get ONS (outside of escorts)
- can get LTR but is betabuxxing and the romance will only be transactional. Also she will cheat to gratify her sexual needs

decent looking and broke:
- 50th percentile in looks (for men age 20-35)
- bottom 20% financially
- can ONS via dumpster diving at bars
- unable to get LTR as cannot afford a gf and not hot enough to use physicality alone

decent looking and rich:
- 50th percentile looks ( men age 20-35)
- top 10% financially

Now this is the sweet spot. You’re attractiveness and money compliment each other very well. You are both attractive enough where she can be with you intimately and also her best LTR option.

This is any woman who is over the age of 28’s dream man. At around this age and up women realize they cannot compete at the same level they did in their younger years and are getting desperate to LTR before their eggs rot (there’s a reason the average age of marriage for a woman is 28).

You are basically one of the last branches before she hits the ground. After this she knows it’ll have to be the rich ugly man I mentioned earlier and women are horrified of that but will do it out of survival

You have the broadest appeal out of all men as you are both attractive and seem attainable unlike gigachad

Good looking and rich:
- You can get virtually any woman you want but you’re probably only gonna fuck with Staceys if you’re at this level making your dating pool smaller than the previous guy but of higher quality

most guys here overvalue looks because they are very young and yes girls only care about looks they are just starting their Chad cock carousel journey and if you’re not hot you are gonna have a tough time. However wait it out because women’s options dwindle and men, as long as you’re a decent looking guy, increase. No this is not redpill cuz I said decent looking, ugly and rich is cope.

What about good-looking with average wages?