oz101
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This is obviously hard for non-Muslims to process ranging from outright denial to minimizing the prevalence, but I know many girls here in the West who are virgin. The same is therefore absolutely true for guys but obviously worse because it's ALWAYS harder for guys
I have about 12 friends within 1.5 years of my age (27 years old).
There were around 8 Muslim girls in my age group.
Notice two got married very early. They are definitely from very religious based families who are strict. But in the femcel category are non-hijabi and liberal hijabi Muslims who are most likely too religious to have sex before marriage and boyfriends, but not religious enough to have traditional values when it comes to gender segregation. If they went down the traditional route they would have been married LONG ago because it's very unusual to have Muslim women 25+ unmarried
I'd like to say they're walking contradictions, but the reality is they're probably like me and trying to balance living in a modern, secular world while still attached to traditional, moral values. They may give excuses such as 'muh career/education' was important that's why I'm not married, but reality is you can do both.
The reality is all of my Muslim friends and the women I know can get married by arrangemarriage maxxing back home. But most consider ourselves too good for those back home, and they're freshy who don't fit in with our hybrid modern Muslim culture. Most of us probably fantasize about marrying the perfect Muslim which we meet somehow, but trapped in this society it most likely won't happen. Muslim families are usually more tight knit so at least it's no shame to live with parents even in 30s - it's only when your white colleagues find out it becomes an issue.
Modern Muslims like me and my friends are 'incels' if you consider that we are still virgin. However I would not in anyway consider me or my friends part of inceldom. Incels/Looksmaxxers alike cite hypergamy as root of their problems like as if women would just be less picky or we went back to the 90s before the internet and suddenly had to speak to each other, it would be better. It probably would, but for non-Muslims only. For Muslims it would not change the situation at all, possibly make it worse.
The biggest question on my friends and family mind is "when you getting married bro" but most modern Muslims I've come across:
TLDR: virginity is rampant across Muslim communities in the West and nothing can solve it without pivoting to one extreme or the other. The purported 'solutions' quoted by incels and looksmaxxers do not remedy the problem for Muslims.
I have about 12 friends within 1.5 years of my age (27 years old).
- 1 got married at 22 (LTB work colleague)
- 1 got married at 23 (LTB work colleague)
- 2 got married at 27 within the last month (both were desperate and used muzmatch for LTBs)
- Another said he's getting married next year so doesn't count.
There were around 8 Muslim girls in my age group.
- 1 got married at 18 (arrange marriage)
- 1 got married at 19 (arranged marriage)
- 1 got married at 24 (arranged marriage)
- 1 got married at 25 (work colleague I think)
Notice two got married very early. They are definitely from very religious based families who are strict. But in the femcel category are non-hijabi and liberal hijabi Muslims who are most likely too religious to have sex before marriage and boyfriends, but not religious enough to have traditional values when it comes to gender segregation. If they went down the traditional route they would have been married LONG ago because it's very unusual to have Muslim women 25+ unmarried
I'd like to say they're walking contradictions, but the reality is they're probably like me and trying to balance living in a modern, secular world while still attached to traditional, moral values. They may give excuses such as 'muh career/education' was important that's why I'm not married, but reality is you can do both.
The reality is all of my Muslim friends and the women I know can get married by arrangemarriage maxxing back home. But most consider ourselves too good for those back home, and they're freshy who don't fit in with our hybrid modern Muslim culture. Most of us probably fantasize about marrying the perfect Muslim which we meet somehow, but trapped in this society it most likely won't happen. Muslim families are usually more tight knit so at least it's no shame to live with parents even in 30s - it's only when your white colleagues find out it becomes an issue.
Modern Muslims like me and my friends are 'incels' if you consider that we are still virgin. However I would not in anyway consider me or my friends part of inceldom. Incels/Looksmaxxers alike cite hypergamy as root of their problems like as if women would just be less picky or we went back to the 90s before the internet and suddenly had to speak to each other, it would be better. It probably would, but for non-Muslims only. For Muslims it would not change the situation at all, possibly make it worse.
The biggest question on my friends and family mind is "when you getting married bro" but most modern Muslims I've come across:
- Don't want an arranged marriage.
- Don't want to date / pre marital sex
- Want to marry Muslim-only
- Some want to marry their ethnicity only
- They live in a non-Muslim and majority white ethnic society that promotes sexuality and getting married late (if ever) after trial and error with multiple partners
TLDR: virginity is rampant across Muslim communities in the West and nothing can solve it without pivoting to one extreme or the other. The purported 'solutions' quoted by incels and looksmaxxers do not remedy the problem for Muslims.
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