[POLL] Which term is more offensive. Subhuman or Ugly?

[mulattomaxxer]

Lets say your sub 3PSL, which word would hurt your feelings more, subhuman or ugly? If I was sub 3PSL I would prefer to be called subhuman. Subhuman is a funny word, its absurdity makes it less offensive then ugly. Although being refered to as a subhuman is pretty bad, it means your below normal people.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

ugly subhuman tier thread

 

[mulattomaxxer]

ugly subhuman tier thread

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Being called ugly is way more hurtful than being called subhuman. Subhuman is kind of a meme word.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

If someone say you're ugly and you're indeed ugly i don't see why you would take offense depending on the context.

Subhuman unless it's a joke its clearly offensive

 

[Vermilioncore]

Subhuman is only used by us. Real life women and people would call me ugly.

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Being called ugly is way more hurtful than being called subhuman. Subhuman is kind of a meme word.

You have been called ugly before? If yes that is brutal. You looked pretty normal in your pictures but I never saw your eye area.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You have been called ugly before? If yes that is brutal. You looked pretty normal in your pictures but I never saw your eye area.

Been called ugly by at least 25+ different people. Was the first insult I heard in any kind of roast, argument, etc.

 

[mulattomaxxer]

If someone say you're ugly and you're indeed ugly i don't see why you would take offense depending on the context.

Subhuman unless it's a joke its clearly offensive

Fair enough, maybe its because I am from the UK. We tend to virtue signal alot more then foreigners. Being fake nice to people is more common.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

Fair enough, maybe its because I am from the UK. We tend to virtue signal alot more then foreigners. Being fake nice to people is more common.

It might be subjective tbh. I value honesty a lot and don't like dishonesty even when it's to be nice. I think its a lack of respect that's my way of seing this but some are different and it could hurt their feelings

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Fair enough, maybe its because I am from the UK. We tend to virtue signal alot more then foreigners. Being fake nice to people is more common.

I was called "clapt", "butterz", "ugly", "shrek", "llama", "rat", "eww"... a lot back in high school. It was completely unprovoked. Stranger girls would make passing comments as I walked past them or on the bus. Worst part is I remember everytime it happened... like every mean comment is firmly implanted in my memory bank. I don't have a single memory of joy, but I can remember the abuse vividly.

Tbf, it has happened a couple of times at university but it occurred less I would say. Maybe because I go outside less.

Documenting every insult I have got at university:

Group of girls laughing at me - freshers week of the 1st year

"Ogre" - 2 girls that recognised me (probably from the accommodation) at the library

"Eww" (x3) (Once at the gym was from this super-narcy becky. Was walking to the dumbbell rack and she just let out a visceral "eww" as she saw me. Twice on the way back from the gym - once I was visibly sunburnt (arms were peeling). Another time a staceylite again let out a visceral, "eww" on my way down the hill

"You're butterz"... An Indian girl said this as I was walking to the canteen (to my FACE - directed at me).

*A girl at an event made a joke about my looks - not sure what the joke was but the girl next to her said, "to stop being mean".
I can only assume it was about my looks.

*Disgusted looks - countless times

Never have I been bullied by men. They never made comments either. It was always girls from every race, religion and social class.

I was verbally attacked relentlessly by black catholic girls on the bus but I've gotten an equal amount of dehumanising comments from middle-class white girls. They are all the same.

 

[mulattomaxxer]

I was called "clapt", "butterz", "ugly", "shrek", "llama", "rat", "eww"... a lot back in high school. It was completely unprovoked. Stranger girls would make passing comments as I walked past them or on the bus. Worst part is I remember everytime it happened... like every mean comment is firmly implanted in my memory bank. I don't have a single memory of joy, but I can remember the abuse vividly.

Tbf, it has happened a couple of times at university but it occurred less I would say. Maybe because I go outside less.

Documenting every insult I have got at university:

Group of girls laughing at me - freshers week of the 1st year

"Ogre" - 2 girls that recognised me (probably from the accommodation) at the library

"Eww" (x3) (Once at the gym was from this super-narcy becky. Was walking to the dumbbell rack and she just let out a visceral "eww" as she saw me. Twice on the way back from the gym - once I was visibly sunburnt (arms were peeling). Another time a staceylite again let out a visceral, "eww" on my way down the hill

"You're butterz"... An Indian girl said this as I was walking to the canteen (to my FACE - directed at me).

*A girl at an event made a joke about my looks - not sure what the joke was but the girl next to her said, "to stop being mean".
I can only assume it was about my looks.

*Disgusted looks - countless times

Never have I been bullied by men. They never made comments either. It was always girls from every race, religion and social class.

I was verbally attacked relentlessly by black catholic girls on the bus but I've gotten an equal amount of dehumanising comments from middle-class white girls. They are all the same.

"Just be yourself bro"

I am very suprised that this has been your experience. Ive seen your pictures and you look normal to me. Your skin condition isn't the best but its far from terrible. Your far above the looks threshold that I would expect somebody to get bullied. Is this even after you have gymmaxxed?

This is a tragic post, it will be living rent free in my head for a while.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

It might be subjective tbh. I value honesty a lot and don't like dishonesty even when it's to be nice. I think its a lack of respect that's my way of seing this but some are different and it could hurt their feelings

What an irony

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Been called ugly by at least 25+ different people. Was the first insult I heard in any kind of roast, argument, etc.

Is your eye area that bad? You looked like a normie to me. Im suprised people are calling you ugly, I wouldn't call you ugly.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

What an irony

I knew you would react to this post if you see it jfl. I was expecting a jfl react tho

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

"Just be yourself bro"
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I am very suprised that this has been your experience. Ive seen your pictures and you look normal to me. Your skin condition isn't the best but its far from terrible. Your far above the looks threshold that I would expect somebody to get bullied. Is this even after you have gymmaxxed?

This is a tragic post, it will be living rent free in my head for a while.

My skin used to look way worst. When I was a teenager I had cystic acne + left behind a lot of scars (the bad skin texture isn't noticeable from a phone camera). I've been microneedling + retin-A + skincare routine for 18 months now so relatively speaking my skin has improved considerably.

People underestimate how important skin is. Not for creating a halo but just for appearing human.

Some girls are really OCD when it comes to bad skin. The thing I learnt is the girls that insulted me weren't disgusted solely by my bad skin. To create such a visceral reaction is a combination of bad skin + bad bones. Those girls likely scored high in pathogenic disgust and found my bone structure ugly.

Over time, I have been trying to piece together why certain girls find me so unappealing. I think I've almost reached a conclusion, after rotting on this forum for 16+ months.

My facial morphology strays far from averageness. Even though I have desirable masculine features on paper (brow ridge, thick + dense eyebrows, lowset supraorbital, highset cheekbones, long mandible + ramus, forward grown maxilla), I stray very far from the ideal phenotypic average (bulbous nose, poor nose-mouth ratio, lacking general mouth width, short chin, wide nasal bridge, high temporal width and poor skin quality). Basically I have 0 youthful features but at the same time, there is no congruency to my facial structure. I don't have a hyper-masculine FACE because of my chin and forehead. I don't have a great deal of angularity (non-flared gonions) and I store fat in the FACE easily.

On top of all the above, I have the personality of an abused dog from all the negative reinforcement during my teenage years. Narcy/insecure girls can sense my weakness from the body language (even if they don't know me). It's a known phenomenon (lots of studies done on it) of girls taking their frustrations out on ugly men because they were rejected by chad. I'm basically an easy target.

Considering all of my experiences, you would think I was a burn victim. I don't think all girls find me disgusting. I believe if you were to compile a rating score of me from every girl in the UK, I would have a platykurtic distribution.

vs your average normie would have a normal distribution

Basically the opinions would be polarised because of how bad my harmony is but the masculinity + frame might appeal to some girls. Or they are even attracted/overlook my flaws (subjectivity, environment, pheromones, personal preference).


Also, studies have proven that girls have more variability in what they find attractive than men. So not all hope is lost, although we do have to consider how much girls fall victim to herd behaviour and mirroring preferences.

Maybe I am coping though...

 

[subhuman incel]

being called an old virgin would be the most offensive and would hurt my feelings the most @OldVirgin

 

[mulattomaxxer]

My skin used to look way worst. When I was a teenager I had cystic acne + left behind a lot of scars (the bad skin texture isn't noticeable from a phone camera). I've been microneedling + retin-A + skincare routine for 18 months now so relatively speaking my skin has improved considerably.

People underestimate how important skin is. Not for creating a halo but just for appearing human.

Some girls are really OCD when it comes to bad skin. The thing I learnt is the girls that insulted me weren't disgusted solely by my bad skin. To create such a visceral reaction is a combination of bad skin + bad bones. Those girls likely scored high in pathogenic disgust and found my bone structure ugly.

Over time, I have been trying to piece together why certain girls find me so unappealing. I think I've almost reached a conclusion, after rotting on this forum for 16+ months.

My facial morphology strays far from averageness. Even though I have desirable masculine features on paper (brow ridge, thick + dense eyebrows, lowset supraorbital, highset cheekbones, long mandible + ramus, forward grown maxilla), I stray very far from the ideal phenotypic average (bulbous nose, poor nose-mouth ratio, lacking general mouth width, short chin, wide nasal bridge, high temporal width and poor skin quality). Basically I have 0 youthful features but at the same time, there is no congruency to my facial structure. I don't have a hyper-masculine FACE because of my chin and forehead. I don't have a great deal of angularity (non-flared gonions) and I store fat in the FACE easily.

On top of all the above, I have the personality of an abused dog from all the negative reinforcement during my teenage years. Narcy/insecure girls can sense my weakness from the body language (even if they don't know me). It's a known phenomenon (lots of studies done on it) of girls taking their frustrations out on ugly men because they were rejected by chad. I'm basically an easy target.

Considering all of my experiences, you would think I was a burn victim. I don't think all girls find me disgusting. I believe if you were to compile a rating score of me from every girl in the UK, I would have a platykurtic distribution.



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vs your average normie would have a normal distribution

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Basically the opinions would be polarised because of how bad my harmony is but the masculinity + frame might appeal to some girls. Or they are even attracted/overlook my flaws (subjectivity, environment, pheromones, personal preference).


Also, studies have proven that girls have more variability in what they find attractive than men. So not all hope is lost, although we do have to consider how much girls fall victim to herd behaviour and mirroring preferences.

Maybe I am coping though...

Cystic ance really does ruins lives. Ance is one of the biggest death sentences for your looks. I also agree with the importance of clear healthy skin. Having clear skin = 10x better treatment. Your also male so you can't fraud with 2kg of makeup.

Your frame + masc should appeal to some women. I think the issue is that the tiktok e-boy is the most desired archetype of man atm.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Is your eye area that bad? You looked like a normie to me. Im suprised people are calling you ugly, I wouldn't call you ugly.

No one has insulted my eye area in person. Only a few people have called me "Asian eyes", which means high PFL so not bad I guess. Main things I was insulted on was big nose and big forehead, both of which I've gotten fixed.