Prioritizing leanmaxxing over gymmaxxing is one of the biggest mistakes you can make as a normal guy

[germanlooks]

Short disclaimer before some brainlets cope at me: In this thread I am not talking about being in a healthy lowish bodyfat range. I am talking about going really low like male models do.



The extreme leanmaxxing obsession which is spread by many here is such a fucking meme. It won’t turn you into a slayer.

Yes being lean will make your face look better. But by how much?
Unless you hide Barret or de poot tier cheekbones underneath your facial fat, leaning down to 10% and less in expense of turning into a twink simply isn’t worth it.

The only people who benefit from this are either:
1) Men with model tier facial bone structure whose revealed model face compensates for the twink body
or
2) Men who already have a lot of muscle mass/wide frame after gymmaxxing

If you don’t fit either of these two options you should ask yourself if it wouldn’t be wiser gaining some lean muscle mass first instead of trying to reveal 5% more of your cuckish lower third which will barley change your smv.


Just look at Barrets current physique. Shit has zero sex appeal:

If his face would just fall into the HTN range this physique would drag him down to normie smv.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Unless you hide Barret or de poot tier cheekbones underneath your facial fat,

stopped reading there

 

[Deleted member 24712]

misleading title since most people fit into the 2nd option where they gymmaxed and ended up as a bloated fat fuck

 

[Jason Voorhees]

For some people who store fat in their faces or with very wide faces Leanmaxxing is not a meme. Dicaprio looks like a bloated potato at 20% bf.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Short disclaimer before some brainlets cope at me: In this thread I am not talking about being in a healthy lowish bodyfat range. I am talking about going really low like male models do.



The extreme leanmaxxing obsession which is spread by many here is such a fucking meme. It won’t turn you into a slayer.

Yes being lean will make your face look better. But by how much?
Unless you hide Barret or de poot tier cheekbones underneath your facial fat, leaning down to 10% and less in expense of turning into a twink simply isn’t worth it.

The only people who benefit from this are either:
1) Men with model tier facial bone structure whose revealed model face compensates for the twink body
or
2) Men who already have a lot of muscle mass/wide frame after gymmaxxing

If you don’t fit either of these two options you should ask yourself if it wouldn’t be wiser gaining some lean muscle mass first instead of trying to reveal 5% more of your cuckish lower third which will barley change your smv.


Just look at Barrets current physique. Shit has zero sex appeal:
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If his face would just fall into the HTN range this physique would drag him down to normie smv.

Depends on the way you store fat. The face fat genes is the biggest black pill on this. Different people store fat differently. Some people can still have a decent face till 25% bf others only look good at 12.

It all depends also its not a small amount better 5% of body fat can be the difference between a HTN and a LTN if you check out any weight loss video the person always makes 90% of their progress in the last 20 pounds of weight loss. Its because the last few percent where you get lean in the face counts the most. I have shit face fat genes still will bulk again but I want to get to a maintance point bulking isn't worth it for me.

Gymcels who make fun of dad bods don't get it. Dad bods are probably more appealing to Zyzz roid look but the reason it is bad is the FACE. You could have gyno and a beer gut but if you had low face fat and good features it wouldn't matter. Face is 99% of why you should be lean if you got good bulking genes then it doesn't matter

 

[germanlooks]

misleading title since most people fit into the 2nd option where they gymmaxed and ended up as a bloated fat fuck

If you gymmax and stay in a small caloric surplus you won’t gain too much fat and can easily shed it off from time to time.

The reason gymcels turn into bloated abominations is because either have dogshit genetics or because they only chase size and not aesthetics

For some people bloat who store fat in their faces or with very wide faces Leanmaxxing is not a meme. Dicaprio looks like a bloated potato at 20% bf.

Yes but I was talking more about going really low like many here suggest. DiCaprio doesn’t have the bones to benefit from going as low as Barret for example. That’s what I mean

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Depends on the way you store fat. The face fat genes is the biggest black pill on this. Different people store fat differently. Some people can still have a decent face till 25% bf others only look good at 12.

It all depends also its not a small amount better 5% of body fat can be the difference between a HTN and a LTN if you check out any weight loss video the person always makes 90% of their progress in the last 20 pounds of weight loss. Its because the last few percent where you get lean in the face counts the most. I have shit face fat genes still will bulk again but I want to get to a maintance point bulking isn't worth it for me.

Gymcels who make fun of dad bods don't get it. Dad bods are probably more appealing to Zyzz roid look but the reason it is bad is the FACE. You could have gyno and a beer gut but if you had low face fat and good features it wouldn't matter. Face is 99% of why you should be lean if you got good bulking genes then it doesn't matter

The last 5% or so of bf that effects your face fat matters more then every other pound.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

The last 5% or so of bf that effects your face fat matters more then every other pound.

its brutal cause I was around 18 percent at my leanest ever and balloned up to 27 percent if i had shed the 6 percent at 18 i would have prolly never eaten until i was full again

 

[germanlooks]

Dad bods are probably more appealing to Zyzz roid look

Stopped reading here jfl

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Stopped reading here jfl

Neither are ideal but Zyzz is male gaze completely a slight dad bod with muscles is better. Tho I think a twink look is closer to ideal

 

[Deleted member 11126]

its brutal cause I was around 18 percent at my leanest ever and balloned up to 27 percent if i had shed the 6 percent at 18 i would have prolly never eaten until i was full again

Yeah I've lost 10-20 pounds or so this year and really it made little difference I felt worse less muscle etc. But when I lost another 5 then I noticed it was like every pound I lost payed off. You could lose 100 pounds and not look much different facially at 28% bf but the last 20 pounds is where you make so much more progress

 

[Looks234]

If his face would just fall into the HTN range this physique would drag him down to normie smv.

It does

 

[cytoplasm]

It doesnt even matter if youve got model bones or not. Body halo boosts anyone SMV signficantly and sub-10% bf will not only not benefit you in any way but make you look gaunt and annihilate your eye area

 

[Deleted member 32973]

really depens on what you're saying. for example i dont get how barret physique is bad at all lol broad shoulders and really good muscle definition. he has enough muscle to not look like christian bale in the machinist. lean maxxing should be priotize in the looksmaxxing journey. even ppl with back zygos/cheekbones will have them pop out after a good leanmax. if you arent model maxxing are you even trying? i fit everysingle reason of why to leanmaxx so it really wont decend me

 

[Deleted member 32973]

It doesnt even matter if youve got model bones or not. Body halo boosts anyone SMV signficantly and sub-10% bf will not only not benefit you in any way but make you look gaunt and annihilate your eye area

if you have a shitty eye area with more body fat it wont do anything but make your eyes deeper set. which is key to achieve a good eye area.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

If your gonna bulk you should take it seriously and do it for like 6 months recommended for newbies but otherwise if you cycle on and off every 2-3 months don't bother. You are going to look worse for such shit gains.

Either commit to it for like almost a year and really dedicate to it accept you will look worse in that time or just just try maintaining and slowly getting a sporty lean athletic look

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Short disclaimer before some brainlets cope at me: In this thread I am not talking about being in a healthy lowish bodyfat range. I am talking about going really low like male models do.



The extreme leanmaxxing obsession which is spread by many here is such a fucking meme. It won’t turn you into a slayer.

Yes being lean will make your face look better. But by how much?
Unless you hide Barret or de poot tier cheekbones underneath your facial fat, leaning down to 10% and less in expense of turning into a twink simply isn’t worth it.

The only people who benefit from this are either:
1) Men with model tier facial bone structure whose revealed model face compensates for the twink body
or
2) Men who already have a lot of muscle mass/wide frame after gymmaxxing

If you don’t fit either of these two options you should ask yourself if it wouldn’t be wiser gaining some lean muscle mass first instead of trying to reveal 5% more of your cuckish lower third which will barley change your smv.


Just look at Barrets current physique. Shit has zero sex appeal:
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If his face would just fall into the HTN range this physique would drag him down to normie smv.

Yup. Why the FUCK would anyone want to look like a skeleton? Shit is absurd. Women DO NOT like skinny guys except some fetishists.

Every single Stacy I have known had a gymcelled Chad bf

 

[germanlooks]

Neither are ideal but Zyzz is male gaze completely a slight dad bod with muscles is better. Tho I think a twink look is closer to ideal

Bluepilled to oblivion if you actually believe in virtual signaling women saying they prefer dad bods.
Also short reminder that they think a dad bod is Chris bumstead off season jfl.
And twink body type is the most unideal of all among being obese.

really depens on what you're saying. for example i dont get how barret physique is bad at all lol broad shoulders and really good muscle definition. he has enough muscle to not look like christian bale in the machinist. lean maxxing should be priotize in the looksmaxxing journey. even ppl with back zygos/cheekbones will have them pop out after a good leanmax. if you arent model maxxing are you even trying? i fit everysingle reason of why to leanmaxx so it really wont decend me

His shoulders are average and everyone has muscle defintion at that body fat. He will look like a girl in a T-shirt

 

[DharkDC]

If your face balloons up at 20%, you’re not a face man, stop pretending to be someone else

 

[cytoplasm]

if you have a shitty eye area with more body fat it wont do anything but make your eyes deeper set. which is key to achieve a good eye area.

Huh? Are you saying a shitty eye area will be ascended with going below 10% bf?

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Bluepilled to oblivion if you actually believe in virtual signaling women saying they prefer das bods.
Also short reminder that they think a dad bod is Chris bumstead off season jfl.
And twink body type is the most unideal of all among being obese.

His shoulders are average and everyone has muscle defintion at that body fat. He will look like a girl in a T-shirt

I guess something like this is probably closer 100% women would prefer this guy over zyzz (On Average). Zyzz still has niche appeal if some percent of women like roid heads. I guess either take steriods and get a top 1% gymcel build or try to be lean and athletic.

Unless your low T you should be able to achieve this natty.

 

[Deleted member 32973]

Bluepilled to oblivion if you actually believe in virtually signaling women saying they prefer das bods.
Also short reminder that they think a dad bod is Chris bumstead off season jfl.
And twink body type is the most unideal of all next to obese.

His shoulders are average and everyone has muscle defintion at that body fat. He will look like a girl in a T-shirt

but he doesnt tho lmao he looks wide af compared to other people. 140-150 lbs is rule for somenone that is over 6ft and 6'2*

 

[Deleted member 32973]

Huh? Are you saying a shitty eye area will be ascended with going below 10% bf?

no but im saying if you have a good eye area and a high bf it will acend you at 10%bf.

 

[cytoplasm]

no but im saying if you have a good eye area and a high bf it will acend you at 10%bf.

Then you'll just look skinny af, with no libido or energy. How about staying at 12% with your mogger eye area, feeling and looking healthy?

 

[chadriguez]

Who the fuck is actually gonna leanmaxx as much as him tho. No one here has that discipline

 

[Yliaster]

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I guess something like this is probably closer 100% women would prefer this guy over zyzz (On Average). Zyzz still has niche appeal if some percent of women like roid heads. I guess either take steriods and get a top 1% gymcel build or try to be lean and athletic.

Unless your low T you should be able to achieve this natty.

Someone like Michael Yerger's physique is considered Athletic by today's standards.Guy you posted was probably hot
to women in the 90's but not today

 

[Deleted member 32973]

Then you'll just look skinny af, with no libido or energy. How about staying at 12% with your mogger eye area, feeling and looking healthy?

look at elias de poot body and eye area. but sure you can try that lemme know how it looks. my theory is that since the eyes have fat pats behind them losing body dat will decrease the density of the fat pads making the eyes deeper set. ive seen it happen with most examples being people with low body fat before and afters. its not talked about that much

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Someone like Michael Yerger's physique is considered Athletic by today's standards.Guy you posted was probably hot
to women in the 90's but not today

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Yeah if you compete for gymcel women. The few percent of women into gym culture have this. I think if you can get .1% roid build you can be within a niche.

But in terms of average women like 80-90% would prefer the guy I posted maybe he would need a few more pounds but he's closer to ideal then those guys you posted. They still don't look ridiculous but thats not how a lean athlete would look.

 

[Deleted member 30254]

dnrd. leanmaxx is law

 

[cytoplasm]

look at elias de poot body and eye area. but sure you can try that lemme know how it looks. my theory is that since the eyes have fat pats behind them losing body dat will decrease the density of the fat pads making the eyes deeper set. ive seen it happen with most examples being people with low body fat before and afters. its not talked about that much

De poot is brutally failoed by his subhuman physique though? He would benefit massively is he had more muscle and higher bf%. Rn he has no smv

 

[Yliaster]

De poot is brutally failoed by his subhuman physique though? He would benefit massively is he had more muscle and higher bf%. Rn he has no smv

Even with muscles De Poot with still have 0 Sex Appeal because he looks like a Soulless Robot

 

[germanlooks]

Even with muscles De Poot with still have 0 Sex Appeal because he looks like a Soulless Robot

Disagree on that tbh.
While his face will always have the slight uncanny/alien look a lot of models have, the main reason he lacks sex appeal is his neck and physique. I morphed him a year ago or so on Trevor Signorinos body and he ascended hard

 

[aesthetic beauty]

Short disclaimer before some brainlets cope at me: In this thread I am not talking about being in a healthy lowish bodyfat range. I am talking about going really low like male models do.



The extreme leanmaxxing obsession which is spread by many here is such a fucking meme. It won’t turn you into a slayer.

Yes being lean will make your face look better. But by how much?
Unless you hide Barret or de poot tier cheekbones underneath your facial fat, leaning down to 10% and less in expense of turning into a twink simply isn’t worth it.

The only people who benefit from this are either:
1) Men with model tier facial bone structure whose revealed model face compensates for the twink body
or
2) Men who already have a lot of muscle mass/wide frame after gymmaxxing

If you don’t fit either of these two options you should ask yourself if it wouldn’t be wiser gaining some lean muscle mass first instead of trying to reveal 5% more of your cuckish lower third which will barley change your smv.


Just look at Barrets current physique. Shit has zero sex appeal:
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If his face would just fall into the HTN range this physique would drag him down to normie smv.

Barret also got that buccal fat removal, which ruined his face.

 

[Mewton]

True
Only skinnycels (which I assume op is too) will understand the importance of size irl

 

[Aladin]

misleading title since most people fit into the 2nd option where they gymmaxed and ended up as a bloated fat fuck

Where did you get this avi? It's quite the mind fuckery optical illusion.

 

[germanlooks]

True
Only skinnycels (which I assume op is too) will understand the importance of size irl

Yep. Been bulking since a few months and gained ~8 kg so far and already feel much more comfortable

 

[Chadelite]

True
Only skinnycels (which I assume op is too) will understand the importance of size irl

Nope I understood the importance of size even when I was a fatcel

 

[Chadelite]

Yep. Been bulking since a few months and gained ~8 kg so far and already feel much more comfortable

Natty or roids? Most of it is fat and water if it’s natty

 

[germanlooks]

Natty or roids? Most of it is fat and water if it’s natty

Natty, I mean obv that’s not 8kg of pure muscle but I barley see an increase in bodyfat if any at all so the majority must be water.
But I also have to say that I already did workout like half a year prior to taking my diet seriously (didn’t gain any weight during that time but some strength). So maybe that made it easier for me to gain muscle a bit faster once I finally added the calories and protein, than for someone who starts at zero and never worked out before at all.

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

Absolutely true. Bulk up first and then lean down to low bodyfat % so you can get the best of both worlds. This requires time, dedication and sacrificing your looks for a period of time however so 90% of users here wouldn't do it.

 

[Chadelite]

Absolutely true. Bulk up first and then lean down to low bodyfat % so you can get the best of both worlds. This requires time, dedication and sacrificing your looks for a period of time however so 90% of users here wouldn't do it.

Ur right I just want to bulk up then cut its winter in a couple of months anyways

 

[It'snotover]

look at elias de poot body and eye area. but sure you can try that lemme know how it looks. my theory is that since the eyes have fat pats behind them losing body dat will decrease the density of the fat pads making the eyes deeper set. ive seen it happen with most examples being people with low body fat before and afters. its not talked about that much

I got what you mean but the fat pads behind the eyeball tend to melt on their own during and especially after puberty with ageing they are not really much affected by diet and bf. Also low body fat can make your eye area worse because of eye bags if your infras are very bad but it's definitely possible to make them better with skin creams and such stuff tho