Proof androgens age the face, guy with single digit T looks 19 at 32

[Jerryterry129]

T and DHT both age the face (I think dht a little bit more but T still ages almost as much)

So how can we find a topical anti androgen that doesn’t go systematic to put on face?

 

[Deleted member 5634]

Copper Peptides

 

[BigBoy]

I wonder how much DHT matures the face.

 

[Chintuck22]

Just point out exception theory

Reduced 5 alpha reductase activity will in return increase the amount of estrogen/estradiol within your body, which is gonna agonize your receptors and feminize you.

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

he looks 17, he's 32.....

 

[WTFCGod]

Fake cope

 

[Jerryterry129]

I wonder how much DHT matures the face.

there’s only been one study with dht and elastin, showing that dht decreased elastin

but it was done by a company who promotes there product that removes dht from face, so it’s hard to really judge if it’s bs or not.

It’s worth looking into though, I think the product name is ethocyn

Mechanism of Action

www.ethocyninfo.com

 

[Chintuck22]

there’s only been one study with dht and elastin, showing that dht decreased elastin

but it was done by a company who promotes there product that removes dht from face, so it’s hard to really judge if it’s bs or not.

It’s worth looking into though, I think the product name is ethocyn

Mechanism of Action

www.ethocyninfo.com

Again.. It's all about the receptors. If you have good DHT production but your receptor sucks, then there's no point to care about this stuff. Anrogen receptor density/sensitivity is the main thing that is responsible for all DHT benefits.

 

[Jerryterry129]

Maybe something like ru on the face could be of benefit

or something specifically meant to reduce androgens in the face and not go systemtic

 

[BigBoy]

there’s only been one study with dht and elastin, showing that dht decreased elastin

but it was done by a company who promotes there product that removes dht from face, so it’s hard to really judge if it’s bs or not.

It’s worth looking into though, I think the product name is ethocyn

Mechanism of Action

www.ethocyninfo.com

What does elastin have to do with facial maturation?

 

[Jerryterry129]

What does elastin have to do with facial maturation?

not sure what you’re asking, but elastin is even more important than collagen for looking young. More elastin means less nasol foilds less saggy skin etc

 

[BigBoy]

not sure what you’re asking, but elastin is even more important than collagen for looking young. More elastin means less nasol foilds less saggy skin etc

My original question was how does DHT mature the face in terms of bone and features.

 

[isis_Bleach]

T and DHT both age the face (I think dht a little bit more but T still ages almost as much)

So how can we find a topical anti androgen that doesn’t go systematic to put on face?

he has the collagen and underyes of a 30 year old but looks young cause babyface bru thats not antiaging jfl

 

[Jerryterry129]

My original question was how does DHT mature the face in terms of bone and features.

You need t and dht maxing during puberty lol

 

[Jerryterry129]

he has the collagen and underyes of a 30 year old but looks young cause babyface bru thats not antiaging jfl

undereyes aren’t that great but his collagen looks good idk what you’re seeing

if you asked random people on the street his age they would say 19

 

[everydayfun]

If this were true MtFs would all look like teenagers, he looks young through genetics. High T plus good genetics is different, when you're 32 with high T your face goes from pretty boy teen (from 18-26) to masculine looking with age (26+), but you still look young the whole time. So at 32 you'd still pass for early 20s because good collagen and skin, but you'd be able to grow a beard and look like a man. A good example is Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise who still looked manly throughout their careers but always passed for about 10 years younger.

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

Copper Peptides

say what?

 

[RAITEIII]

Again.. It's all about the receptors. If you have good DHT production but your receptor sucks, then there's no point to care about this stuff. Anrogen receptor density/sensitivity is the main thing that is responsible for all DHT benefits.

Unironically spot on.
The thing is how to upregulate said level of androgen receptorsor sensitivity. The theory says that an increase in androgens will make your body upregulate the ARs but this doesn't seem to always work when it's put in practice since many people DHT max and don't manage to get satisfactory results -some others do though. Androgen upregulation might not alter considerably AR's in certain tissues or bone to show clear differences in development.

So the key is probably somewhere before/ during puberty when this AR's upregulation and sensitivity takes place because of ANOTHER reason that nobody has discussed or come across.

 

[6’1cel]

T and DHT both age the face (I think dht a little bit more but T still ages almost as much)

So how can we find a topical anti androgen that doesn’t go systematic to put on face?

jfl

 

[RAITEIII]

My original question was how does DHT mature the face in terms of bone and features.

There are androgen receptors in your facial bones. As time goes by they have more time to grow thanks to the constant androgen activity which makes you more "mature" by altering your features and becoming more masculine.

I've seen so many oldcels with this sick facial structure lmao.

 

[Jerryterry129]

If this were true MtFs would all look like teenagers, he looks young through genetics. High T plus good genetics is different, when you're 32 with high T your face goes from pretty boy teen (from 18-26) to masculine looking with age (26+), but you still look young the whole time. So at 32 you'd still pass for early 20s because good collagen and skin, but you'd be able to grow a beard and look like a man. A good example is Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise who still looked manly throughout their careers but always passed for about 10 years younger.

this is a good point but don’t MTFs still have some test? I don’t think they actually nuke there test

 

[everydayfun]

this is a good point but don’t MTFs still have some test? I don’t think they actually nuke there test

they want to shift priorities from test to estrogen, so the test does take a significant hit, enough to shift the appearance of their sex

 

[wristcel]

he can pretend to be 19 and slay jailbaits

 

[skinny]

Just point out exception theory

Reduced 5 alpha reductase activity will in return increase the amount of estrogen/estradiol within your body, which is gonna agonize your receptors and feminize you.

there is nothing wrong with being feminized

 

[Yusu]

looking like a manly 30 years warrior while being 30 > looking like a feminine 17 years cuck with angle like faggot skin with 30

 

[skinny]

looking like a manly 30 years warrior while being 30 > looking like a feminine 17 years cuck with angle like faggot skin with 30

“manly 30 year old warrior” you mean modern caveman masctard

 

[Chintuck22]

Unironically spot on.
The thing is how to upregulate said level of androgen receptorsor sensitivity. The theory says that an increase in androgens will make your body upregulate the ARs but this doesn't seem to always work when it's put in practice since many people DHT max and don't manage to get satisfactory results -some others do though. Androgen upregulation might not alter considerably AR's in certain tissues or bone to show clear differences in development.

So the key is probably somewhere before/ during puberty when this AR's upregulation and sensitivity takes place because of ANOTHER reason that nobody has discussed or come across.

IGF-1 levels directly promotes 5AR activity, but to sensitize receptors, i think this is where it gets screwed.. Because your androgen receptors are most likely antagonized since the birt (in the womb) from all the chemical pollutants that disrupts the endocrine system

That's why most people don't walk with deep voices, 9"wrists, huge dicks... Those are all of the traits DHT receptor sensitivity are responsible for, you cannot change these things at all nor during puberty.

That's the unfortunate truth

 

[RAITEIII]

IGF-1 levels directly promotes 5AR activity, but to sensitize receptors, i think this is where it gets screwed.. Because your androgen receptors are most likely antagonized since the birt (in the womb) from all the chemical pollutants that disrupts the endocrine system

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That's why most people don't walk with deep voices, 9"wrists, huge dicks... Those are all of the traits DHT receptor sensitivity are responsible for, you cannot change these things at all nor during puberty.

That's the unfortunate truth

This topic is very complex.

theres data suggesting that molecular regulators could enhance AR sensitivity.

also changes in AR sensitivity are speculated to happen and play a role in hairloss and how your dick stops growing.

its most likely that we just dont know the mechanism to make this work in our favour.[/QUOTE]

 

[MentalistKebab]

This is also the reason why womens age so much better than mens.

Kys if you falled for "men ages better" cope from redpill retards.

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Maybe something like ru on the face could be of benefit

or something specifically meant to reduce androgens in the face and not go systemtic

this is retarded test increases collagen theres androgen receptors in the face