Refunding is so easy + underrated (£9K/$12K USD a month)

[Final Fantasy]

REFUNDING 101
JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN.

I AM AWARE THIS IS WATER BUT IT'S VERY UNDERRATED.

​

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WHY REFUND?

YOU WILL NEED SOME MONEY TO START.

It requires no effort as I get a refunder to do so and is extremely low risk. The most that will happen that will only be at your fault is that you will be recharged for what you have refunded, this has less than a 1% chance of happening. The most you will have to do is potentially take a picture of the box or send an email which they will already write for you if they don't need access to your account. The rest they will handle, that's why you pay the fee.

Therefore it fucking brutally MOGS any other type of social engineering like scamming pedos which takes effort and probably has like a <20% chance of actually working for 10% of the money you can make with refunding.

It costs more having someone refund it for me but personally I am terrible at social engineering. There are refund mentorships if you are better than me and aren't requiring to pay a fee.

If you want to also just get stuff for a fraction of its price it is also useful. I got a 65' QLED TV, £200 SkullCrusher Headphones, Xbox Headphones and a XBOX series X for around £300-£400.

---

EZ LINGO

For absolute normies that don't understand what it is then ill explain rq:

- REFUND:
Keep an item after you refund it, therefore having the item for free.

- DOUBLE/TRIPLE/QUADRIPLE DIP:
Get the item you bought + Either 1 or 2 or even up to 3 replacements + Your money back.

- LIMIT:
Depending on the store, there will be a spending limit and item limit. Don't go over this if you want a near 100% success rate.

- COUNTRIES:
Depending on the store, it will only be available for refunds to certain countires. Apple for example is Worldwide.

- FEES:
If you get someone to refund for you instead of learning to do so yourself you will have to pay a % of the order. For example 20% of the order. Not paying the fee, will result in you getting doxxed as they will need access to your amazon, apple etc and payment details. So you can't exactly get away with doing so nor would I recommend it as fucking people who specialize in fraud is stupid when they are heavily respected in those types of communities.

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EXAMPLE

Ill give an example of what I'm doing/planning to do to achieve one of my realistic dream cars:


>I buy an Iphone
>I get someone to refund it
>They do a triple dip for me
>I keep my money + 3 phones
>I pay 20% of the phones price per phone.

An Iphone 17 Pro Max 256GB is £1119, so 20% of that is £180.
£180 x 3 (for 3 phones) = £540 for £3600 in phones.

Each phone will now sell on eBay for around £1000 x 3 = £3000 - £250 fee = £2500/$3300 in profit.

---

HOW FAR CAN YOU TAKE IT?

For my specific refunder, he has a spending limit of $5000 and an Item limit of 1.

If I wanted to maximize profits I wouldn't go for the latest Iphone. I would go for a MacBook Pro. They go for roughly £2000-£3500+ on eBay and with a 15% fee that equals £525 per MacBook. If I was to put it on eBay for £2500, per laptop I would profit £2000. (Some sell up to £3700). Now with a triple dip I could profit anywhere from £6000/$8000 a month minimum to £9000/$12000.

Apple is a great store to hit as they are very lenient with their refunds. They come out with new items every year and all of their tech hold their price year round till the new version comes out.

If you wanted to take it to the extreme. I would buy a refunding mentorship and start doing refunds not only for myself to avoid fees but also refund for other people. You can easily hit £10K+ a month and that's a low ball. Though this requires a lot of effort and to be good at social engineering.

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HOW TO STAY SAFE

The refunders are your friends. If you don't get your refund, they don't get their money but there is a few things to keep in mind.

1. Go to refunders who have high reps on these forums. They don't have thousands of reps anything above 20-30+ is good. Which might not sound high but repping someone is a little more tedious on these forums.
2. Go to refunders who have been in the game for years.
3. If you want check pinned threads in the refund section. They are usually reputable and known. Bad4Bad is my refunder who you might see.
4. Look at the stores, fees and requirements of that specific refunder.
5. Never pay any upfront fees, good/most refunders will want you to pay a fee after each refund to keep you safe.
6. Make sure you have crypto as a payment method or ask them beforehand what their payment options are.
7. On the incredibly small chance that a refund fails (less than 0.1%, refunders usually only do certain stores which they are confident in with 99-100% success rate) MAKE SURE YOU CAN AFFORD THE REFUND IF IT DOES FAIL.

MAKE SURE YOU VERIFY YOUR ORDER IS GOOD WITH THE REFUNDER BEFORE FOLLOWING THROUGH.

---

Forums like Cracked and Patched are places you can find refunders and other stuff related to it.

 

[Final Fantasy]

water dnr nigga

 

[Zeylet]

water dnr nigga

 

[redeemthecard]

REFUNDING 101
SHORT WATER THREAD, JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN.​

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WHY REFUND?

YOU WILL NEED SOME MONEY TO START.

It requires no effort as I get a refunder to do so and is extremely low risk. The most that will happen that will only be at your fault is that you will be recharged for what you have refunded, this has less than a 1% chance of happening. The most you will have to do is potentially take a picture of the box or send an email which they will already write for you if they don't need access to your account. The rest they will handle, that's why you pay the fee.

Therefore it fucking brutally MOGS any other type of social engineering like scamming pedos which takes effort and probably has like a <20% chance of actually working for 10% of the money you can make with refunding.

It costs more having someone refund it for me but personally I am terrible at social engineering. There are refund mentorships if you are better than me and aren't requiring to pay a fee.

If you want to also just get stuff for a fraction of its price it is also useful. I got a 65' QLED TV, £200 SkullCrusher Headphones, Xbox Headphones and a XBOX series X for around £300-£400.

---

EZ LINGO

For absolute normies that don't understand what it is then ill explain rq:

- REFUND:
Keep an item after you refund it, therefore having the item for free.

- DOUBLE/TRIPLE/QUADRIPLE DIP:
Get the item you bought + Either 1 or 2 or even up to 3 replacements + Your money back.

- LIMIT:
Depending on the store, there will be a spending limit and item limit. Don't go over this if you want a near 100% success rate.

- COUNTRIES:
Depending on the store, it will only be available for refunds to certain countires. Apple for example is Worldwide.

- FEES:
If you get someone to refund for you instead of learning to do so yourself you will have to pay a % of the order. For example 20% of the order. Not paying the fee, will result in you getting doxxed as they will need access to your amazon, apple etc and payment details. So you can't exactly get away with doing so nor would I recommend it as fucking people who specialize in fraud is stupid when they are heavily respected in those types of communities.

---

EXAMPLE

Ill give an example of what I'm doing/planning to do to achieve one of my realistic dream cars:


>I buy an Iphone
>I get someone to refund it
>They do a triple dip for me
>I keep my money + 3 phones
>I pay 20% of the phones price per phone.

An Iphone 17 Pro Max 256GB is £1119, so 20% of that is £180.
£180 x 3 (for 3 phones) = £540 for £3600 in phones.

Each phone will now sell on eBay for around £1000 x 3 = £3000 - £250 fee = £2500/$3300 in profit.

---

HOW FAR CAN YOU TAKE IT?

For my specific refunder, he has a spending limit of $5000 and an Item limit of 1.

If I wanted to maximize profits I wouldn't go for the latest Iphone. I would go for a MacBook Pro. They go for roughly £2000-£3500+ on eBay and with a 15% fee that equals £525 per MacBook. If I was to put it on eBay for £2500, per laptop I would profit £2000. (Some sell up to £3700). Now with a triple dip I could profit anywhere from £6000/$8000 a month minimum to £9000/$12000.



If you wanted to take it to the extreme. I would buy a refunding mentorship and start doing refunds not only for myself to avoid fees but also refund for other people. You can easily hit £10K+ a month and that's a low ball. Though this requires a lot of effort and to be good at social engineering.

---

Forums like Cracked and Patched are places you can find refunders and other stuff related to it.

niggativities

 

[piperbomb]

W thread

 

[rares54]

I need a ps5 for when gta 6 comes out

but i dont really understand, if i go and refund im gonna have to bring it back w me?

 

[Final Fantasy]

I need a ps5 for when gta 6 comes out

but i dont really understand, if i go and refund im gonna have to bring it back w me?

Playstation is a common store for refunders right now.

So you buy one online, go to a refunder, keep the ps5 and just pay 15%* of what the ps5 costed. Very easy.

If you wanted the best ps5 pro which is around 1050$ and pay 15% of it. It would only cost $150 for that 2TB PS5 Pro.

 

[rares54]

Playstation is a common store for refunders right now.

So you buy one online, go to a refunder, keep the ps5 and just pay 15%* of what the ps5 costed. Very easy.

If you wanted the best ps5 pro which is around 1050$ and pay 15% of it. It would only cost $150 for that 2TB PS5 Pro.

Bro hold on, why do i have to go to a refunder and what does he get from only me paying him 15% of it

Cant i just do it myself?

 

[infrainfra]

REFUNDING 101
JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN.

I AM AWARE THIS IS WATER BUT IT'S VERY UNDERRATED.

​

---

WHY REFUND?

YOU WILL NEED SOME MONEY TO START.

It requires no effort as I get a refunder to do so and is extremely low risk. The most that will happen that will only be at your fault is that you will be recharged for what you have refunded, this has less than a 1% chance of happening. The most you will have to do is potentially take a picture of the box or send an email which they will already write for you if they don't need access to your account. The rest they will handle, that's why you pay the fee.

Therefore it fucking brutally MOGS any other type of social engineering like scamming pedos which takes effort and probably has like a <20% chance of actually working for 10% of the money you can make with refunding.

It costs more having someone refund it for me but personally I am terrible at social engineering. There are refund mentorships if you are better than me and aren't requiring to pay a fee.

If you want to also just get stuff for a fraction of its price it is also useful. I got a 65' QLED TV, £200 SkullCrusher Headphones, Xbox Headphones and a XBOX series X for around £300-£400.

---

EZ LINGO

For absolute normies that don't understand what it is then ill explain rq:

- REFUND:
Keep an item after you refund it, therefore having the item for free.

- DOUBLE/TRIPLE/QUADRIPLE DIP:
Get the item you bought + Either 1 or 2 or even up to 3 replacements + Your money back.

- LIMIT:
Depending on the store, there will be a spending limit and item limit. Don't go over this if you want a near 100% success rate.

- COUNTRIES:
Depending on the store, it will only be available for refunds to certain countires. Apple for example is Worldwide.

- FEES:
If you get someone to refund for you instead of learning to do so yourself you will have to pay a % of the order. For example 20% of the order. Not paying the fee, will result in you getting doxxed as they will need access to your amazon, apple etc and payment details. So you can't exactly get away with doing so nor would I recommend it as fucking people who specialize in fraud is stupid when they are heavily respected in those types of communities.

---

EXAMPLE

Ill give an example of what I'm doing/planning to do to achieve one of my realistic dream cars:


>I buy an Iphone
>I get someone to refund it
>They do a triple dip for me
>I keep my money + 3 phones
>I pay 20% of the phones price per phone.

An Iphone 17 Pro Max 256GB is £1119, so 20% of that is £180.
£180 x 3 (for 3 phones) = £540 for £3600 in phones.

Each phone will now sell on eBay for around £1000 x 3 = £3000 - £250 fee = £2500/$3300 in profit.

---

HOW FAR CAN YOU TAKE IT?

For my specific refunder, he has a spending limit of $5000 and an Item limit of 1.

If I wanted to maximize profits I wouldn't go for the latest Iphone. I would go for a MacBook Pro. They go for roughly £2000-£3500+ on eBay and with a 15% fee that equals £525 per MacBook. If I was to put it on eBay for £2500, per laptop I would profit £2000. (Some sell up to £3700). Now with a triple dip I could profit anywhere from £6000/$8000 a month minimum to £9000/$12000.



If you wanted to take it to the extreme. I would buy a refunding mentorship and start doing refunds not only for myself to avoid fees but also refund for other people. You can easily hit £10K+ a month and that's a low ball. Though this requires a lot of effort and to be good at social engineering.

---

Forums like Cracked and Patched are places you can find refunders and other stuff related to it.

isnt your crib going to get blackmailed after 1-2 refunds?

 

[Final Fantasy]

Bro hold on, why do i have to go to a refunder and what does he get from only me paying him 15% of it

Cant i just do it myself?

Yes you can. I mention it lower in my thread but there are certain methods that people think would work that refunders have used and abused already so they wouldn't work.

Some offer mentorships.

 

[rares54]

Yes you can. I mention it lower in my thread but there are certain methods that people think would work that refunders have used and abused already so they wouldn't work.

Some offer mentorships.

Heres what i dont understand

If i buy a ps5 ans receive it, then i refund it myself, I have to send it back otherwise they wont give my money back?

 

[Final Fantasy]

isnt your crib going to get blackmailed after 1-2 refunds?

Depends on your reasoning to refund, if you just want a few things for cheap and only do it lets say every few months then it's fine.

If your doing it for purely money every month then;

You can buy different accounts, have different payment methods with other banks like revolut or Klarna one time pay card with different numbers, put it under friends/families names, different stores, different refund methods come out etc.

PO Box, family members, friends house etc. There will obviously be a limit but as long as you put a few legit small orders in between you can rinse it for a long time. I'm doing this with a job so i'm pulling in around £4,500 a month.

 

[Final Fantasy]

Heres what i dont understand

If i buy a ps5 ans receive it, then i refund it myself, I have to send it back otherwise they wont give my money back?

That's why you get a refunder, they do their jobs and people go to them for a reason. They have their own methods which won't require for them to send it back.

I got a IPhone 17 Pro Max 256GB for my dads birthday coming up. Costed me £180 for a £1199 phone.

 

[rares54]

That's why you get a refunder, they do their jobs and people go to them for a reason. They have their own methods which won't require for them to send it back.

I got a IPhone 17 Pro Max 256GB for my dads birthday coming up. Costed me £180 for a £1199 phone.

How did ur refunder do it though

Like doesnt he have to access the account u ordered from and allat bullshit

 

[try2beme]

Done it in gta for small stuff
Books
Video games
Food
But its chance

 

[Final Fantasy]

How did ur refunder do it though

Like doesnt he have to access the account u ordered from and allat bullshit

For the apple one no. He only requires me to send 2-3 emails which he already wrote out.

for amazon ones they do. if your weary about it they let you remove all your payment details so they can't spend anything.

 

[infrainfra]

Depends on your reasoning to refund, if you just want a few things for cheap and only do it lets say every few months then it's fine.

If your doing it for purely money every month then;

You can buy different accounts, have different payment methods with other banks like revolut or Klarna one time pay card with different numbers, put it under friends/families names, different stores, different refund methods come out etc.

PO Box, family members, friends house etc. There will obviously be a limit but as long as you put a few legit small orders in between you can rinse it for a long time. I'm doing this with a job so i'm pulling in around £4,500 a month.

but i need a special refunder? i couldnt do this alone?

yeah but i have limited amount of friends that want to do this and even less that would agree to get ts done under their house

 

[Pony]

REFUNDING 101
JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN.

I AM AWARE THIS IS WATER BUT IT'S VERY UNDERRATED.

​

---

WHY REFUND?

YOU WILL NEED SOME MONEY TO START.

It requires no effort as I get a refunder to do so and is extremely low risk. The most that will happen that will only be at your fault is that you will be recharged for what you have refunded, this has less than a 1% chance of happening. The most you will have to do is potentially take a picture of the box or send an email which they will already write for you if they don't need access to your account. The rest they will handle, that's why you pay the fee.

Therefore it fucking brutally MOGS any other type of social engineering like scamming pedos which takes effort and probably has like a <20% chance of actually working for 10% of the money you can make with refunding.

It costs more having someone refund it for me but personally I am terrible at social engineering. There are refund mentorships if you are better than me and aren't requiring to pay a fee.

If you want to also just get stuff for a fraction of its price it is also useful. I got a 65' QLED TV, £200 SkullCrusher Headphones, Xbox Headphones and a XBOX series X for around £300-£400.

---

EZ LINGO

For absolute normies that don't understand what it is then ill explain rq:

- REFUND:
Keep an item after you refund it, therefore having the item for free.

- DOUBLE/TRIPLE/QUADRIPLE DIP:
Get the item you bought + Either 1 or 2 or even up to 3 replacements + Your money back.

- LIMIT:
Depending on the store, there will be a spending limit and item limit. Don't go over this if you want a near 100% success rate.

- COUNTRIES:
Depending on the store, it will only be available for refunds to certain countires. Apple for example is Worldwide.

- FEES:
If you get someone to refund for you instead of learning to do so yourself you will have to pay a % of the order. For example 20% of the order. Not paying the fee, will result in you getting doxxed as they will need access to your amazon, apple etc and payment details. So you can't exactly get away with doing so nor would I recommend it as fucking people who specialize in fraud is stupid when they are heavily respected in those types of communities.

---

EXAMPLE

Ill give an example of what I'm doing/planning to do to achieve one of my realistic dream cars:


>I buy an Iphone
>I get someone to refund it
>They do a triple dip for me
>I keep my money + 3 phones
>I pay 20% of the phones price per phone.

An Iphone 17 Pro Max 256GB is £1119, so 20% of that is £180.
£180 x 3 (for 3 phones) = £540 for £3600 in phones.

Each phone will now sell on eBay for around £1000 x 3 = £3000 - £250 fee = £2500/$3300 in profit.

---

HOW FAR CAN YOU TAKE IT?

For my specific refunder, he has a spending limit of $5000 and an Item limit of 1.

If I wanted to maximize profits I wouldn't go for the latest Iphone. I would go for a MacBook Pro. They go for roughly £2000-£3500+ on eBay and with a 15% fee that equals £525 per MacBook. If I was to put it on eBay for £2500, per laptop I would profit £2000. (Some sell up to £3700). Now with a triple dip I could profit anywhere from £6000/$8000 a month minimum to £9000/$12000.



If you wanted to take it to the extreme. I would buy a refunding mentorship and start doing refunds not only for myself to avoid fees but also refund for other people. You can easily hit £10K+ a month and that's a low ball. Though this requires a lot of effort and to be good at social engineering.

---

HOW TO STAY SAFE

The refunders are your friends. If you don't get your refund, they don't get their money but there is a few things to keep in mind.

1. Go to refunders who have high reps on these forums. They don't have thousands of reps anything above 20-30+ is good. Which might not sound high but repping someone is a little more tedious on these forums.
2. Go to refunders who have been in the game for years.
3. If you want check pinned threads in the refund section. They are usually reputable and known. Bad4Bad is my refunder who you might see.
4. Look at the stores, fees and requirements of that specific refunder.
5. Never pay any upfront fees, good/most refunders will want you to pay a fee after each refund to keep you safe.
6. Make sure you have crypto as a payment method or ask them beforehand what their payment options are.
7. On the incredibly small chance that a refund fails (less than 0.1%, refunders usually only do certain stores which they are confident in with 99-100% success rate) MAKE SURE YOU CAN AFFORD THE REFUND IF IT DOES FAIL.

MAKE SURE YOU VERIFY YOUR ORDER IS GOOD WITH THE REFUNDER BEFORE FOLLOWING THROUGH.

---

Forums like Cracked and Patched are places you can find refunders and other stuff related to it.

if the refund attempt fails can’t you just send the product in like normal for a full refund back

 

[dome190]

Where can I contact professional refunders?

 

[rares54]

For the apple one no. He only requires me to send 2-3 emails which he already wrote out.

for amazon ones they do. if your weary about it they let you remove all your payment details so they can't spend anything.

Thanks man

Where do u find them btw? Can u pm me?

 

[Final Fantasy]

but i need a special refunder? i couldnt do this alone?

yeah but i have limited amount of friends that want to do this and even less that would agree to get ts done under their house

Their are many different ways to recieve a package like a post office just holding onto your order whoch you could spam multiple times since it’s not a houze.

 

[ghost!]

good ass post

saves money to buy EQ

 

[Final Fantasy]

if the refund attempt fails can’t you just send the product in like normal for a full refund back

Depends on the method they used. Lets say they saix you had an empty box, they aren’t gonna let you refund it after an item suddenly appeared which you said was stolen. But people do offer fixing failed refunds

 

[Final Fantasy]

Where can I contact professional refunders?

read bottom of post

 

[Pony]

Depends on the method they used. Lets say they saix you had an empty box, they aren’t gonna let you refund it after an item suddenly appeared which you said was stolen. But people do offer fixing failed refunds

oh didn’t realize you made this thread bhai, funnily enough I was going to get into refunding this week

 

[Pony]

Depends on the method they used. Lets say they saix you had an empty box, they aren’t gonna let you refund it after an item suddenly appeared which you said was stolen. But people do offer fixing failed refunds

i usually just use my dads amazon account, it was made in 1998 and has tens of thousands of purchase rn so far i’ve did one refund on it with an oled monitor with dna /nothing in box method

how far u think i can take it?

 

[ghost!]

lowk why cant i just refund myself

for like a couple items a month maybe for myself

 

[Final Fantasy]

i usually just use my dads amazon account, it was made in 1998 and has tens of thousands of purchase rn so far i’ve did one refund on it with an oled monitor with dna /nothing in box method

how far u think i can take it?

Oh yeah then its perfect.

Depending on the refunder most have a max order of 5 items with a price limit of like 5000. Amazon ones are more leanient because as long as you have lets say a refund, then for 1-2 months have small legit orders then you can go for another big refund.

 

[Pony]

Oh yeah then its perfect.

Depending on the refunder most have a max order of 5 items with a price limit of like 5000. Amazon ones are more leanient because as long as you have lets say a refund, then for 1-2 months have small legit orders then you can go for another big refund.

yeah my fam does orders alot

think i’m going for a mac book neo with a no box again

 

[Final Fantasy]

yeah my fam does orders alot

think i’m going for a mac book neo with a no box again

Yeah definitely good if you wanna resell.

You can double check with the refunder or if you do it yourself make sure the item is shipped and returns available both by amazon.

If its another company it usually won’t work as methods usually blame amazon fully for it and a third party company handling it can’t get full proof of fault etc.

 

[Pony]

Yeah definitely good if you wanna resell.

You can double check with the refunder or if you do it yourself make sure the item is shipped and returns available both by amazon.

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If its another company it usually won’t work as methods usually blame amazon fully for it and a third party company handling it can’t get full proof of fault etc.

ah man this is perfect tyvm as my main money making way got patched this is a perfect alternative

You got telegram discord or anything?

Would love to discuss further

Like 3k I have to start currently

 

[Final Fantasy]

ah man this is perfect tyvm as my main money making way got patched this is a perfect alternative

You got telegram discord or anything?

Would love to discuss further

Like 3k I have to start currently

ya bhai

synnicaalxo on discord

i can show u a refund im half way through doing rn

 

[Pony]

ya bhai

synnicaalxo on discord

i can show u a refund im half way through doing rn

Mine is ilovemares

 

[Final Fantasy]

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Mine is ilovemares

added bhai

 

[inversions]

I refunded KFC the other day. Got £8 back @Former Shortcel

 

[81xa]

So you have some sort of guy in the middle that does the refunding for you? Do you not do it yourself to avoid the repercussions? Is doing it yourself a retarded idea to begin with

 

[Final Fantasy]

So you have some sort of guy in the middle that does the refunding for you? Do you not do it yourself so you dont get the repercussions? Is doing it yourself a retarded idea

Doing it yourself isn't retarded if you got a mentorship with the refunders methods.

Doing it yourself with no knowledge experience using methods you think would work will end up making you give back the item most likely. As refunders have abused methods people think would work.

But if your like me and don't wanna deal with it then yeah its a middle man who does the refunding for you for a small fee because they been doing it for years.

 

[81xa]

Doing it yourself isn't retarded if you got a mentorship with the refunders methods.

Doing it yourself with no knowledge experience using methods you think would work will end up making you give back the item most likely. As refunders have abused methods people think would work.

But if your like me and don't wanna deal with it then yeah its a middle man who does the refunding for you for a small fee because they been doing it for years.

yeah it makes complete sense now

then again these guys have access to your accounts when they're doing the refunding dont they? wouldnt want to get doxxed, im sure they keep your info on hand incase you decide to scam them

 

[Final Fantasy]

yeah it makes complete sense now

then again these guys have access to your accounts when they're doing the refunding dont they? wouldnt want to get doxxed, im sure they keep your info on hand incase you decide to scam them

Of course that's the first thing they do when doing a refund. Otherwise how else will they pay back people who fuck them over. Fucking with niggas who specialize in fraud is as bad as scamming a drug dealer, especially with the connections some people have in that com