Serious Should i ogremax or preetyboy/highclass max?

Pietrosiek

Pietrosiek

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I don't know. I want to be highclass preetyboy but i'm socialy akward so ogremaxing would give me more respect and i like combat sports so i would fit it. Also in some photos i look more high t
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Or sometimes like nerd
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That's my frame at 186/6'1 and 74kg/165
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So is gymceling and getting bloated worth it, or try to be preetyboy or highclass skiny guy? From one side i want to be like Alain Delon, From other like Vitor Belfort
 
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you look like an oblivion npc
 
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You shouldn't be an ogre or a prettyboy. You should try to achieve facial balance and harmony that's easy on the eyes.

I recommend a combo of bone shaving + jaw implants in order to balance your asymmetry out.
 
You shouldn't be an ogre or a prettyboy. You should try to achieve facial balance and harmony that's easy on the eyes.

I recommend a combo of bone shaving + jaw implants in order to balance your asymmetry out.
asymetry is killing me, also i don't want implants becouse i won't be able to train bjj or any other combat sport.
 
You need to treat your lazy eye, are you short sighted or havs vision problems? There are programs that can treat it
 
You need to treat your lazy eye, are you short sighted or havs vision problems? There are programs that can treat it
Idk Wtf you're talking about. What kind of lazy eye? I don't have any eye problems
 
Idk Wtf you're talking about. What kind of lazy eye? I don't have any eye problems
Your right eye goes off into other direction too far causing asymmetry, I mean concentrating your eyes into one place and there being no asymmetry
 
asymetry is killing me, also i don't want implants becouse i won't be able to train bjj or any other combat sport.
you cant train bjj after implants?
 
just be yourself bro
 
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prettyboymax only if you can get a clearer skin
 
Ogre is probably the best tbh
MOG others
 
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Honestly, it's a toss up. You could go either way. If you want to prettyboy/high class max you need to clear that skin up. Unfortunately, ogremaxing probably requires steroids so I would go with high class. Up to you though, pick what you'd be happier doing.
 
your face is already ogre

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this would be you trying to prettyboy maxx
 
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Felt mean tbh
yea it was pretty rude ngl

i would have roped if i was op and read your comment. someone posted it on his rate thread tho it mightve been you
 
yea it was pretty rude ngl

i would have roped if i was op and read your comment. someone posted it on his rate thread tho it mightve been you

What did it say
 
yea it was pretty rude ngl

i would have roped if i was op and read your comment. someone posted it on his rate thread tho it mightve been you

im not gonna be nice to a guy that posts things like how he promotes ER and mass shootings

he also whines and cries pre. much every day and says things like hes already given up(at 16 years old)

just a mentally weak low T cuck that prolly is gonne rope within 2-3 years unless changes his mentality to life
 
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im not gonna be nice to a guy that posts things like how he promotes ER and mass shootings

he also whines and cries pre. much every day and says things like hes already given up(at 16 years old)

just a mentally weak low T cuck that prolly is gonne rope within 2-3 years unless changes his mentality to life
actually youre right. he goes around telling other ppl how its over and they should ldar. hes probably one of the worst users tbh.
 
he also whines and cries pre. much every day and says things like hes already given up(at 16 years old)
What the diffrence beetween giving up at 16 or 26? Chad was born chad, and if you were born subhuman or mentaly retarded, or both you won turn into slayer mogging machine. It's over in that way. Do you think you can change much? No. Looking at dudes that mogs without even trying, while you need to work hard for this and still lose with them make no sensce for me. Also no looksmaxing for your wasted youth.
actually youre right. he goes around telling other ppl how its over and they should ldar. hes probably one of the worst users tbh.
Mayby i should say Bluepill shit that just go out and you can find gf? Sure you can but she will cuck you, she won't even give a shit about your existance. This is what you want? If you don't give a shit just want fake love, or sex ok good for you, but I don't want it so it never began. Also i'm not 100% serious in all my post, so try to catch that, especialy in post with oneits

just a mentally weak low T cuck that prolly is gonne rope within 2-3 years unless changes his mentality to life
I won't rope, i have some copes that keeps me going, women are not only point of my life. I'm not chad so focusing on them would be pure suifuel. I like to do stuff that i'm good at and i'm not good with woman so either i will get my chance to get laid without much effort or just do my own thing without them. I recomend it for every incel/normie but everyone is diffrent and some man have dicks instead of brains.
 
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Definetly ogremaxxed. Prettyboys are born not made
 
So gymceling and getting bloated is worth it? I have short muscle bellies and long tendons so propably i would look like shit gymceled.
 
Beyond over. Ressurection asap.
 
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I don't know. I want to be highclass preetyboy but i'm socialy akward so ogremaxing would give me more respect and i like combat sports so i would fit it. Also in some photos i look more high t
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Or sometimes like nerd
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That's my frame at 186/6'1 and 74kg/165
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So is gymceling and getting bloated worth it, or try to be preetyboy or highclass skiny guy? From one side i want to be like Alain Delon, From other like Vitor Belfort




Pretty boy JFL. and your not a chadlite
 
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What the diffrence beetween giving up at 16 or 26? Chad was born chad, and if you were born subhuman or mentaly retarded, or both you won turn into slayer mogging machine. It's over in that way. Do you think you can change much? No. Looking at dudes that mogs without even trying, while you need to work hard for this and still lose with them make no sensce for me. Also no looksmaxing for your wasted youth.

Mayby i should say Bluepill shit that just go out and you can find gf? Sure you can but she will cuck you, she won't even give a shit about your existance. This is what you want? If you don't give a shit just want fake love, or sex ok good for you, but I don't want it so it never began. Also i'm not 100% serious in all my post, so try to catch that, especialy in post with oneits


I won't rope, i have some copes that keeps me going, women are not only point of my life. I'm not chad so focusing on them would be pure suifuel. I like to do stuff that i'm good at and i'm not good with woman so either i will get my chance to get laid without much effort or just do my own thing without them. I recomend it for every incel/normie but everyone is diffrent and some man have dicks instead of brains.
didnt read a single word of this pitiful rambling

go and make something of your life you autistic miserable fuck
 
didnt read a single word of this pitiful rambling

go and make something of your life you autistic miserable fuck
do what? Fuck landwhale? I don't know what's your problem, i will reach my realistic goals, mayby for you it's cope, that i try other thing than just get laid with ugly foid. That doesn't change that it never began for me with woman and slaying so i won't fight just for sex with ugly foid. I don't understand you.
@mido the slayer what do you think? Should i try highclass maxing (i don't have good base for it i think) or ogremax to at least be scary?
 
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do what? Fuck landwhale? I don't know what's your problem, i will reach my realistic goals, mayby for you it's cope, that i try other thing than just get laid with ugly foid. That doesn't change that it never began for me with woman and slaying so i won't fight just for sex with ugly foid. I don't understand you.
my problem is that you're a self hating loser that tries to brings others down with his posts

you're not ugly and you're not attractive. you're not special and no one gives a fuck about you

you whine about not being chad while you keep repeating like a parrot that you've already given up and there's no hope for you (at 16 years old)

why do you whine if you've already given up? just LDAR or fuck off to incels.is or w/e for real

what a pitiful autistic permacuck mindset
 
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you're not ugly and you're not attractive. you're not special and no one gives a fuck about you

you whine about not being chad while you keep repeating like a parrot that you've already given up and there's no hope for you (at 16 years old)
And fucking what? I'm giving up on women becouse i can't get attractive foids. I'm no roping dude. I try to do somekind of looksmax, maybe turning into more ogre. There's no hope for me for slaying. That's a fact. Whole skincare, hair or other shit is doesn't change a thing so i gave up on that. Still want to looksmax in the best way i can, again not for women becouse i gave up on them but for myself.

my problem is that you're a self hating loser that tries to brings others down with his posts
How? I just share blackpill. Is it fuckin worth to looksmax for some dudes to 4-4.5 psl to pass minimal threshold for ltr? No i don't think so. Keep coping about "happy" normie life. Wife who married you just for betabux and who cheat on you. Raising not your kids and all that stuff this is worth looksmaxing? You're not redpiled dude.

what a pitiful autistic permacuck mindset
mayby i don't want the same thing you want? You want socialize and get gf or get laid with not ugly foid right? I don't want it. So give me answer to my question if you want help can i be preetyboy or not? I think no. So would gymceling, getting bloated, some tatoos maybe roiding fit my face? I have good height, frame is averge i think. If you don't want to help me just don't spam with doing something with my life
 
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your nose and acne are killing you
 
your nose and acne are killing you
I know that's why i'm ogre. I should be scary ogre not nerdy ogre like i'm now
 
What the diffrence beetween giving up at 16 or 26? Chad was born chad, and if you were born subhuman or mentaly retarded, or both you won turn into slayer mogging machine. It's over in that way. Do you think you can change much? No.

What a fucking retard. you can change dramatically from 16 to full mature. Stop spewing defeatist wannabe "blackpill" bullshit
 
What a fucking retard. you can change dramatically from 16 to full mature. Stop spewing defeatist wannabe "blackpill" bullshit
i'm almost 17 right now. Show me chad who was subhuman as teenager. Also I don't care about full mature highschool is the most important time. Like i wrote before i'm giving up on women it's not worth my time to looksmax, socialmax and get laid with ugly foid. I want looksmax to be respected by other dudes and don't be complete looser. Also i want to aknowlege foids that i'm not intrested in them by looking like ogre and acting rude to them. If nice foid will want to be fucked by me no problem. I'm not a cuck to aproach and fight for bitches
 
i'm almost 17 right now. Show me chad who was subhuman as teenager. Also I don't care about full mature highschool is the most important time. Like i wrote before i'm giving up on women it's not worth my time to looksmax, socialmax and get laid with ugly foid. I want looksmax to be respected by other dudes and don't be complete looser. Also i want to aknowlege foids that i'm not intrested in them by looking like ogre and acting rude to them. If nice foid will want to be fucked by me no problem. I'm not a cuck to aproach and fight for bitches
I went up 2 psl points from teen to adult from 3.5 to 5.5 , I experienced changes as late as 27 years old. radical change in life I was one of the very bullied teens. This is why the blackpill is dangerous for teens. Had I been blackpilled when I was 16 and I would probably have gone ER or some shit. Hell gandy himself was a late virgin/ankward teen.
 
This thread made me caged :feelskek:
 
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Resolve skin problem and try to prettyboymaxx as much as you can.
 
I went up 2 psl points from teen to adult from 3.5 to 5.5 , I experienced changes as late as 27 years old. radical change in life I was one of the very bullied teens. This is why the blackpill is dangerous for teens. Had I been blackpilled when I was 16 and I would probably have gone ER or some shit. Hell gandy himself was a late virgin/ankward teen.
Pics or didn't happend. Also you propably rate 16 yo yourself with adult standards. I compare myself to other 17 and a lot of them facemog me. Gandy was mentalcel then, he was preetyboy at my age and he moged me to oblivion

Resolve skin problem and try to prettyboymaxx as much as you can.
I know the solution. I need to cut tons of sougar that i eat every day. I have 2 weaks to going back to school so i don't worry about it. If i would have some acne left i will get accutane. About preetyboying i thing gymceling would be more benefitial to me, i don't have preetyboy features just ogre nose and mouth. Good brow ridge and cheekbone mass would help with ogremaxing
 
I know the solution. I need to cut tons of sougar that i eat every day. I have 2 weaks to going back to school so i don't worry about it. If i would have some acne left i will get accutane. About preetyboying i thing gymceling would be more benefitial to me, i don't have preetyboy features just ogre nose and mouth. Good brow ridge and cheekbone mass would help with ogremaxing
Imho a half-assed prettyboymaxxing is still much better than ogremaxxing. Ogremaxxing is cope for tall uggos.
 
Pics or didn't happend. Also you propably rate 16 yo yourself with adult standards. I compare myself to other 17 and a lot of them facemog me. Gandy was mentalcel then, he was preetyboy at my age and he moged me to oblivion


I know the solution. I need to cut tons of sougar that i eat every day. I have 2 weaks to going back to school so i don't worry about it. If i would have some acne left i will get accutane. About preetyboying i thing gymceling would be more benefitial to me, i don't have preetyboy features just ogre nose and mouth. Good brow ridge and cheekbone mass would help with ogremaxing

I dont have pics of 16 yeqr old me but was incel by teen standards, not adult ones
 
I dont have pics of 16 yeqr old me but was incel by teen standards, not adult ones
interesting, did your bones grow, symetry improved or what? Face can't become better just like that.
 

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