Softmaxes, Hardmaxes and Ultramaxes

[Nosecel9000]

In order to reach chad looks there are different tier looksmaxes

1. Softmaxes
- tanning , fashion, haircut , skincare , grooming

2. Hardmaxes
- medium surgery like rhino and mouth widening and fillers, accutane ,

3. Ultramaxes
- LL / HGH ( If manlet)
- top surgeries like double jaw surgery
- dropping body fat % if extreme overwheifht

 

[Zygos4Life]

Losing body weight is a softmax

 

[Abyss Dweller]

Elaborate on mouth widening.

 

[Gebirgscel]

Losing body weight is a softmax

dropping bodyfat is a hardmaxx
and hairloss treatment too, depends on your hair tho

Elaborate on mouth widening.

mouth as wide as IPD is ideal, narrow is ugly and mouthbreather-like

 

[Deleted member 656]

mouth as wide as IPD is ideal, narrow is ugly and mouthbreather-like

Average IPD is 64 mm, average mouth is 50 mm with standard deviations of about 3.5 mm. To have a mouth as wide as your IPD with a normal IPD would be 4 standard deviations above average. That's almost 1 in 16,000. You'd look comical.

Ideal mouth width is 1.618 times the width of the nose.

 

[DidntRead]

You forgot mewing and bonesmashing OP

 

[Gebirgscel]

Average IPD is 64 mm, average mouth is 50 mm with standard deviations of about 3.5 mm. To have a mouth as wide as your IPD with a normal IPD would be 4 standard deviations above average. That's almost 1 in 16,000. You'd look comical.

Ideal mouth width is 1.618 times the width of the nose.

really depends
on 90 ° gonial and 2 fwhr, it could work well

but you are right

 

[Deleted member 656]

really depends
on 90 ° gonial and 2 fwhr, it could work well

but you are right

I don't think there's any situation in which a 90° gonial can be good, but 2.0 FWHR is top tier for sure.

 

[Gebirgscel]

I don't think there's any situation in which a 90° gonial can be good, but 2.0 FWHR is top tier for sure.

to consider that 90 ° is an easy-to-tell sign of forward growth, it could be good, if you go by the rule of thumb "forwardgrowth = everything"
but it is not necessary and not ideal, but better than 180 °, downward growth

 

[Lorsss]

In order to reach chad looks there are different tier looksmaxes

1. Softmaxes
- tanning , fashion, haircut , skincare , grooming

2. Hardmaxes
- medium surgery like rhino and mouth widening and fillers, accutane ,

3. Ultramaxes
- LL / HGH ( If manlet)
- top surgeries like double jaw surgery
- dropping body fat % if extreme overwheifht

dropping to low bodyFat is the easiest and cheapest looksmax

 

[Deleted member 656]

to consider that 90 ° is an easy-to-tell sign of forward growth, it could be good, if you go by the rule of thumb "forwardgrowth = everything"
but it is not necessary and not ideal, but better than 180 °, downward growth

A 90° gonial angle without an absurdly long ramus is going to give you a tiny lower third and it'd look minecraft-tier from the front regardless. Taller lower thirds are ideal, and necessarily mandate higher gonial angles. If you can balance good maxillary forward growth with a higher gonial to accommodate a taller chin, all the while maintaining good alignment between the chin and brow ridge, that's preferable. It'd also give you a longer mandibular plane, which is always good.

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

I feel like braces aren't mentioned even nearly enough. You can considerably change the shape of your face with them

 

[Gebirgscel]

A 90° gonial angle without an absurdly long ramus is going to give you a tiny lower third and it'd look minecraft-tier from the front regardless. Taller lower thirds are ideal, and necessarily mandate higher gonial angles. If you can balance good maxillary forward growth with a higher gonial to accommodate a taller chin, all the while maintaining good alignment between the chin and brow ridge, that's preferable. It'd also give you a longer mandibular plane, which is always good.

considereing 120° as ideal, yes
but my point is, at 90° gonial there is a high chance all your other facial parts are well developed or just not visible or not augmented

Tall rammus is neccessary tbh
but I dont want to imagine a tall ramus and 150 ° gonial
fucked up face probably

 

[Deleted member 656]

considereing 120° as ideal, yes
but my point is, at 90° gonial there is a high chance all your other facial parts are well developed or just not visible or not augmented

That's true.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

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[Deleted member 2846]

Average IPD is 64 mm, average mouth is 50 mm with standard deviations of about 3.5 mm. To have a mouth as wide as your IPD with a normal IPD would be 4 standard deviations above average. That's almost 1 in 16,000. You'd look comical.

Ideal mouth width is 1.618 times the width of the nose.

Isn’t the rule mouth should reach your pupils?

 

[Deleted member 656]

Isn’t the rule mouth should reach your pupils?

Somewhere between the pupil and the iris is probably ideal.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Tanning is so underrated tbh. I got an amazing tan this summer (being at the beach 7+ hours every day for 8 weeks) and friends and family have complimented/commented on it. My back acne is totally gone and my face is looking good too. Such a good halo when you’re really white without a tan. I’m working on skinmaxxing too, just have to wait for my Retin a to come in the mail and I’ll he tanmaxxed and skinmaxxed.

Skinmaxxing overall is a halo IMO.

 

[Pietrosiek]

i'm not even softmaxed yet

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Somewhere between the pupil and the iris is probably ideal.

As long as it reaches the iris, you should be fine.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Tanning is so underrated tbh. I got an amazing tan this summer (being at the beach 7+ every day for 8 weeks) and friends and family have complimented/commented on it. Such a good halo when you’re white. I’m working on skinmaxxing too, just have to wait for my Retin a to come in the mail and I’ll he tanmaxxed and skinmaxxed.

Skinmaxxing overall is a halo IMO.

same dude but instead of beach, i was on the construction like 10h every day

 

[Deleted member 2846]

same dude but instead of beach, i was on the construction like 10h every day

Construction must be amazing for your body for a summer (not long term though). Only negative is you get a farmers tan from the vest. I only wore shorts so my whole body is one shade. Looks good af.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Construction must be amazing for your body for a summer (not long term though). Only negative is you get a farmers tan from the vest. I only wore shorts so my whole body is one shade. Looks good af.

after this weak i'm coming back to school. Tbh idk school or construction is better

 

[Deleted member 39]

Other important hardmaxes: Jelqing and stretching

 

[Kade]

Tanning is so underrated tbh. I got an amazing tan this summer (being at the beach 7+ hours every day for 8 weeks) and friends and family have complimented/commented on it. My back acne is totally gone and my face is looking good too. Such a good halo when you’re really white without a tan. I’m working on skinmaxxing too, just have to wait for my Retin a to come in the mail and I’ll he tanmaxxed and skinmaxxed.

Skinmaxxing overall is a halo IMO.

Isn’t it bad to be using retin-a and tanning? I hope I’m wrong about that tho because being tanned with high collagen is so ideal

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Isn’t it bad to be using retin-a and tanning? I hope I’m wrong about that tho because being tanned with high collagen is so ideal

Yeah, I think. You need to keep your face out of the sun as much as possible when on retin a. Hat + sunscreen.

 

[Kade]

Yeah, I think. You need to keep your face out of the sun as much as possible when on retin a. Hat + sunscreen.

Hmmm, maybe it’s worth alternating? Tan without retin-a during summer but use retin a in the winter to restore/maintain some collagen? Idk

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Hmmm, maybe it’s worth alternating? Tan without retin-a during summer but use retin a in the winter to restore/maintain some collagen? Idk

That’s what I’m going to have to tbh.

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

Tanning is so underrated tbh. I got an amazing tan this summer (being at the beach 7+ hours every day for 8 weeks) and friends and family have complimented/commented on it. My back acne is totally gone and my face is looking good too. Such a good halo when you’re really white without a tan. I’m working on skinmaxxing too, just have to wait for my Retin a to come in the mail and I’ll he tanmaxxed and skinmaxxed.

Skinmaxxing overall is a halo IMO.

It ruins your skin later in life

 

[Deleted member 2846]

It ruins your skin later in life

Tanning? I know.

 

[Lorsss]

Isn’t it bad to be using retin-a and tanning? I hope I’m wrong about that tho because being tanned with high collagen is so ideal

retin-A makes your skin very sensitive, so you need to use sunscreen everyday no matters if you sunbath or not