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The first rule of looksmaxxing is the most important. You must internalize it, and truly believe it before you can begin your looksmaxxing journey, while simultaneously making the most of your results. This applies not only to looksmaxxing, but any and all forms of self-improvement that you will do throughout your life.

The first rule of looksmaxxing is: You do not talk about looksmaxxing.

“Why is that?” you might ask. The answer is clear. People, whether they admit it or not, have certain ideas, thoughts, and preferences in their heads that they can’t control.

An “implicit bias” if you will.

Why do you think there is an infatuation with so called “prodigies” in our society?

Do people revere the person who works hard all their life, learning and studying to improve themselves, or do they admire the one mysterious somebody who makes it all look easy and natural, as if they were born to do it?

Do people want to hear about the guy who gave it his all in college and spent endless nights studying to get the A, just like everyone else, or do they only want to hear about the kid who does it all without even needing to try?

Do people admire the guy who is fascinated by different cultures and languages, and spent all of his life learning about them, or do they only want to hear about the guy who has been able to speak to almost anyone since he was 13?

If you’re wondering why I’m asking all of the rhetorical questions, it’s because I’m trying to prove a point, a point that you probably already know, but fail to enact.

People want successful people who make it look easy. They want people who make it looks easy. They want naturals.

Unfortunately for many people, they don’t fall into any of these categories. Most people are painfully average, living monotonous lives, giving it their all to be just another drop in the bucket, making it obvious to others just how hard they’re trying in order to even just stay afloat.

Others manage to make a splash, a splash large enough to offset them from the rest of the flock, but still manage to make the fatal mistake of telling people about how hard it was to get there.

In an even smaller group, you have people who have a natural aptitude to certain activities, and excel at them with ease. The first two groups love these people, they are infatuated with them. They’re the naturals, the prodigies.

And finally, we have the last group, the group who has no choice but to work just as hard as the first two, gets the results of the second but gets all of the same admiration as the third.

How?

By shutting the fuck up about how much effort they’re putting in or how hard they worked.

Both the third and fourth group of people have the exact same social value in the eyes of the flock, because the fourth group has learned the art of shutting the fuck up. By not telling others about what they’re working on, or have worked on, people admire them in the same way that they do the naturals, because in eyes of the flock, they’re no different.

The flock doesn’t just want people who look good or do things well, the want people who look good and do things well without even needing to try.

Have you ever enthusiastically told others about starting a new diet, or elaborating to others about some newfound plan about how you are going to improve your life, and all of a sudden they start to tear you down in subtle ways, or start to treat you differently?

It’s because of that implicit bias. They don’t like tryhards, they don’t like frauds, and they don’t like people who aren’t naturals. They don’t like people who weren’t born with it.

You avoid this by not talking about your efforts, by not showing to others, either explicitly or implicitly, all the work you put into taking care of and improving yourself.

The Italians, one of the most stereotypically romantic and charismatic ethnicity, the Italians, have a word for this idea. In fact they have had a word for it for almost 500 years. They call it sprezzatura. Sprezzatura is described as a ‘studied carelessness’. Most people apply it towards fashion, but the first time it was described by Baldassare Castiglione, it applied to all aspects of a person’s life, desires, feelings, thoughts, and more importantly, actions. It’s an effort to make every aspect of your life, including the parts worthy of admiration that, while in reality took large amounts of effort and time, look easy and natural.

See, when you employ sprezzatura during your looksmaxxing journey, and more importantly throughout your entire life, even after you’re ‘done’ looksmaxxing, you reap its benefits in the form of admiration and praise for being, living, and acting in a way that others want you to be, and wish they were.

In reality, it’s the one way of ascending when you aren’t already ascended. It allows you to burn away the dead underbrush, and allow for new branches and leaves to grow. It allows you to shed all of your baggage and become something new. You begin to truly believe that you had it in you all along, and your actions and characteristics soon follow suit.

As Castiglione talks about in his book, one of sprezzatura’s greatest virtues is that it allows you to get lost in, and eventually become, one with your nonchalance and charisma; a true natural.

It’s a difficult road, trust me. People are fundamentally social animals. We all want to talk with others about how we’re going to improve, how hard we’ve worked, and how much better off we are for it. They’re also hilariously judgmental, in the ways I’ve talked about previously. They don’t like to see plateaus, or the inevitable stagnation that you have to break through when improving yourself, all they want to see are results. It really is the duality of man.

But doing so is the most important part of really beginning your looksmaxxing journey.

Hopefully I’ve shed some insight on the type of mentality you need to put yourself in, in order to truly maximize and reap the rewards of your looksmaxxing, and more generally any form of self-improvement.
 
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legit.

also, when u write ur looksmax goals here, you’re giving youself the sense of self accomplishment and dopamine. don’t write them here.
 
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Extremely well said.
 
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The first rule of looksmaxxing is the most important. You must internalize it, and truly believe it before you can begin your looksmaxxing journey, while simultaneously making the most of your results. This applies not only to looksmaxxing, but any and all forms of self-improvement that you will do throughout your life.

The first rule of looksmaxxing is: You do not talk about looksmaxxing.

“Why is that?” you might ask. The answer is clear. People, whether they admit it or not, have certain ideas, thoughts, and preferences in their heads that they can’t control.

An “implicit bias” if you will.

Why do you think there is an infatuation with so called “prodigies” in our society?

Do people revere the person who works hard all their life, learning and studying to improve themselves, or do they admire the one mysterious somebody who makes it all look easy and natural, as if they were born to do it?

Do people want to hear about the guy who gave it his all in college and spent endless nights studying to get the A, just like everyone else, or do they only want to hear about the kid who does it all without even needing to try?

Do people admire the guy who is fascinated by different cultures and languages, and spent all of his life learning about them, or do they only want to hear about the guy who has been able to speak to almost anyone since he was 13?

If you’re wondering why I’m asking all of the rhetorical questions, it’s because I’m trying to prove a point, a point that you probably already know, but fail to enact.

People want successful people who make it look easy. They want people who make it looks easy. They want naturals.

Unfortunately for many people, they don’t fall into any of these categories. Most people are painfully average, living monotonous lives, giving it their all to be just another drop in the bucket, making it obvious to others just how hard they’re trying in order to even just stay afloat.

Others manage to make a splash, a splash large enough to offset them from the rest of the flock, but still manage to make the fatal mistake of telling people about how hard it was to get there.

In an even smaller group, you have people who have a natural aptitude to certain activities, and excel at them with ease. The first two groups love these people, they are infatuated with them. They’re the naturals, the prodigies.

And finally, we have the last group, the group who has no choice but to work just as hard as the first two, gets the results of the second but gets all of the same admiration as the third.

How?

By shutting the fuck up about how much effort they’re putting in or how hard they worked.

Both the third and fourth group of people have the exact same social value in the eyes of the flock, because the fourth group has learned the art of shutting the fuck up. By not telling others about what they’re working on, or have worked on, people admire them in the same way that they do the naturals, because in eyes of the flock, they’re no different.

The flock doesn’t just want people who look good or do things well, the want people who look good and do things well without even needing to try.

Have you ever enthusiastically told others about starting a new diet, or elaborating to others about some newfound plan about how you are going to improve your life, and all of a sudden they start to tear you down in subtle ways, or start to treat you differently?

It’s because of that implicit bias. They don’t like tryhards, they don’t like frauds, and they don’t like people who aren’t naturals. They don’t like people who weren’t born with it.

You avoid this by not talking about your efforts, by not showing to others, either explicitly or implicitly, all the work you put into taking care of and improving yourself.

The Italians, one of the most stereotypically romantic and charismatic ethnicity, the Italians, have a word for this idea. In fact they have had a word for it for almost 500 years. They call it sprezzatura. Sprezzatura is described as a ‘studied carelessness’. Most people apply it towards fashion, but the first time it was described by Baldassare Castiglione, it applied to all aspects of a person’s life, desires, feelings, thoughts, and more importantly, actions. It’s an effort to make every aspect of your life, including the parts worthy of admiration that, while in reality took large amounts of effort and time, look easy and natural.

See, when you employ sprezzatura during your looksmaxxing journey, and more importantly throughout your entire life, even after you’re ‘done’ looksmaxxing, you reap its benefits in the form of admiration and praise for being, living, and acting in a way that others want you to be, and wish they were.

In reality, it’s the one way of ascending when you aren’t already ascended. It allows you to burn away the dead underbrush, and allow for new branches and leaves to grow. It allows you to shed all of your baggage and become something new. You begin to truly believe that you had it in you all along, and your actions and characteristics soon follow suit.

As Castiglione talks about in his book, one of sprezzatura’s greatest virtues is that it allows you to get lost in, and eventually become, one with your nonchalance and charisma; a true natural.

It’s a difficult road, trust me. People are fundamentally social animals. We all want to talk with others about how we’re going to improve, how hard we’ve worked, and how much better off we are for it. They’re also hilariously judgmental, in the ways I’ve talked about previously. They don’t like to see plateaus, or the inevitable stagnation that you have to break through when improving yourself, all they want to see are results. It really is the duality of man.

But doing so is the most important part of really beginning your looksmaxxing journey.

Hopefully I’ve shed some insight on the type of mentality you need to put yourself in, in order to truly maximize and reap the rewards of your looksmaxxing, and more generally any form of self-improvement.
For me personally, knowing it wasnt natural and everything was forced takes the validation away from me.

Before I would say I inherently deserved said thing but now I doubt myself and tell myswlf I got lucky bc I truly did

Strong first post tho, hope you make more
 
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HIGH IQ
 
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legit.

also, when u write ur looksmax goals here, you’re giving youself the sense of self accomplishment and dopamine. don’t write them here.
we both know you didn't read all of that
 
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legit.

also, when u write ur looksmax goals here, you’re giving youself the sense of self accomplishment and dopamine. don’t write them here.
Why shouldnt we write them here? I dont see anything wrong with what you said.
 
Why shouldnt we write them here? I dont see anything wrong with that.

Why shouldnt we write them here? I dont see anything wrong with that.
bc it gives false sense of accomplishment. you get dopamine from ppl reacting and commenting back and you didn’t do anything expect write them down.

if ur serious about it, you shouldn’t tell anyone. that’s also why those “my looksmax goals” are so fun and addicting to write.
 
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good thread
 
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legit thread no one outside of these forums will ever know anything i do to looksmax
 
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bc it gives false sense of accomplishment. you get dopamine from ppl reacting and commenting back and you didn’t do anything expect write them down.

if ur serious about it, you shouldn’t tell anyone. that’s also why those “my looksmax goals” are so fun and addicting to write.
Oh I misread. I thought you said not write about after ascending.
 
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l e g i t

You'll never become a true natural, but you sure as hell can make people believe you are one. Perhaps you'll be able to convince yourself someday.
 
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Great post. Walk the walk but don't do the talk.
 
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ok, wahts the 2nd?
 
Great post.
Law 30 from the book 48 laws of power ;
Make your accomplishments seem effortless.
 
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It's actually a law of power but your development was high eq
 
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High IQ post
 
Good post OP, I support aloof-maxxing.

legit.

also, when u write ur looksmax goals here, you’re giving youself the sense of self accomplishment and dopamine. don’t write them here.
Agreed, although you're guilty of doing this...
 
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Looksmax like your life depends on it (because it kinda does)
 
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Agree with conclusion, disagree with the reasoning used to get there.

Society has always respected the plucky underdog who worked hard more than the overdog who was born better. Normies want to cope that life is completely just, or else destroy what they see as an unfair advantage. Look at current political rhetoric, conservatives tend to hype the hard work of rich people, democrats hype their luck and want to see them knocked down a few pegs. Hell, look at IT and incels for an example of this at play: "Chads are attractive because of their personality or other traits which are achievable through effort" vs "Life is unfair because Chads are born and not made, let's remake society so everything is fair again".

Floyd Mayweather, Will Smith, Donald Trump, and countless others have freely admitted to the hard work they did (or sometimes didn't do) because it makes them seem more relatable to average people. People want to see themselves as hard workers, so they look for that in others as well.

For most things, it's best to pretend you worked hard even if you didn't.

The thing is, this doesn't apply for looksmaxxing or personalitymaxxing.

The reason it doesn't apply to looksmaxxing is that vanity is considered taboo in society. We are supposed to pretend to play the game that 'looks don't matter', and seeing somebody put an abnormal amount of effort into their looks reminds the normies that looks matter, which makes them uncomfortable. That's why you see people say "I do X for myself" and believe it.

The reason it doesn't apply to personalitymaxxing is because people don't like feeling like they are being deceived. This is why society is so obsessed with 'authenticity' today. If you told somebody you read and applied The Charisma Myth, they would feel like you were lying to them about your actual personality. Ironically the only way people respect manufactured personalities is if you tell them you were shy and worked really hard to become more confident (but not specific techniques to learn to appeal to people, god forbid you be fake).

So fight club still applies to the blackpill, but not for the reason you think it does.

Also @PrettyBoyMaxxing

Telling people your goals helps you follow through due to prosocial emotions, which are stronger than willpower alone. You don't want to be a failure, or worse, somebody who didn't even try. You also want the dopamine from writing down your goals, because it is a taste of the dopamine of actually achieving them.

What you don't want is the dopamine you get from writing this kind of post. I will never get back the 15 minutes I spent writing something that doesn't benefit my long term goals.
 
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tldr: The first rule of looksmaxxing is you don't talk about looksmaxxing
 
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The first rule of looksmaxxing is the most important. You must internalize it, and truly believe it before you can begin your looksmaxxing journey, while simultaneously making the most of your results. This applies not only to looksmaxxing, but any and all forms of self-improvement that you will do throughout your life.

The first rule of looksmaxxing is: You do not talk about looksmaxxing.

“Why is that?” you might ask. The answer is clear. People, whether they admit it or not, have certain ideas, thoughts, and preferences in their heads that they can’t control.

An “implicit bias” if you will.

Why do you think there is an infatuation with so called “prodigies” in our society?

Do people revere the person who works hard all their life, learning and studying to improve themselves, or do they admire the one mysterious somebody who makes it all look easy and natural, as if they were born to do it?

Do people want to hear about the guy who gave it his all in college and spent endless nights studying to get the A, just like everyone else, or do they only want to hear about the kid who does it all without even needing to try?

Do people admire the guy who is fascinated by different cultures and languages, and spent all of his life learning about them, or do they only want to hear about the guy who has been able to speak to almost anyone since he was 13?

If you’re wondering why I’m asking all of the rhetorical questions, it’s because I’m trying to prove a point, a point that you probably already know, but fail to enact.

People want successful people who make it look easy. They want people who make it looks easy. They want naturals.

Unfortunately for many people, they don’t fall into any of these categories. Most people are painfully average, living monotonous lives, giving it their all to be just another drop in the bucket, making it obvious to others just how hard they’re trying in order to even just stay afloat.

Others manage to make a splash, a splash large enough to offset them from the rest of the flock, but still manage to make the fatal mistake of telling people about how hard it was to get there.

In an even smaller group, you have people who have a natural aptitude to certain activities, and excel at them with ease. The first two groups love these people, they are infatuated with them. They’re the naturals, the prodigies.

And finally, we have the last group, the group who has no choice but to work just as hard as the first two, gets the results of the second but gets all of the same admiration as the third.

How?

By shutting the fuck up about how much effort they’re putting in or how hard they worked.

Both the third and fourth group of people have the exact same social value in the eyes of the flock, because the fourth group has learned the art of shutting the fuck up. By not telling others about what they’re working on, or have worked on, people admire them in the same way that they do the naturals, because in eyes of the flock, they’re no different.

The flock doesn’t just want people who look good or do things well, the want people who look good and do things well without even needing to try.

Have you ever enthusiastically told others about starting a new diet, or elaborating to others about some newfound plan about how you are going to improve your life, and all of a sudden they start to tear you down in subtle ways, or start to treat you differently?

It’s because of that implicit bias. They don’t like tryhards, they don’t like frauds, and they don’t like people who aren’t naturals. They don’t like people who weren’t born with it.

You avoid this by not talking about your efforts, by not showing to others, either explicitly or implicitly, all the work you put into taking care of and improving yourself.

The Italians, one of the most stereotypically romantic and charismatic ethnicity, the Italians, have a word for this idea. In fact they have had a word for it for almost 500 years. They call it sprezzatura. Sprezzatura is described as a ‘studied carelessness’. Most people apply it towards fashion, but the first time it was described by Baldassare Castiglione, it applied to all aspects of a person’s life, desires, feelings, thoughts, and more importantly, actions. It’s an effort to make every aspect of your life, including the parts worthy of admiration that, while in reality took large amounts of effort and time, look easy and natural.

See, when you employ sprezzatura during your looksmaxxing journey, and more importantly throughout your entire life, even after you’re ‘done’ looksmaxxing, you reap its benefits in the form of admiration and praise for being, living, and acting in a way that others want you to be, and wish they were.

In reality, it’s the one way of ascending when you aren’t already ascended. It allows you to burn away the dead underbrush, and allow for new branches and leaves to grow. It allows you to shed all of your baggage and become something new. You begin to truly believe that you had it in you all along, and your actions and characteristics soon follow suit.

As Castiglione talks about in his book, one of sprezzatura’s greatest virtues is that it allows you to get lost in, and eventually become, one with your nonchalance and charisma; a true natural.

It’s a difficult road, trust me. People are fundamentally social animals. We all want to talk with others about how we’re going to improve, how hard we’ve worked, and how much better off we are for it. They’re also hilariously judgmental, in the ways I’ve talked about previously. They don’t like to see plateaus, or the inevitable stagnation that you have to break through when improving yourself, all they want to see are results. It really is the duality of man.

But doing so is the most important part of really beginning your looksmaxxing journey.

Hopefully I’ve shed some insight on the type of mentality you need to put yourself in, in order to truly maximize and reap the rewards of your looksmaxxing, and more generally any form of self-improvement.
good thread
 
I gave you a like because I like the message that I got from the first two sentences.


I'm not climbing that wall of a post tho
 
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This is a legit thread my man, well done. I won't talk about my self improvement to anyone from now on, except people directly involved in it.
 
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High IQ thread

Will o longer discuss LooksMaxing on this forum, I’ll pretend it doesn’t exist

This post is also legit I bookmarked both.
Agree with conclusion, disagree with the reasoning used to get there.

Society has always respected the plucky underdog who worked hard more than the overdog who was born better. Normies want to cope that life is completely just, or else destroy what they see as an unfair advantage. Look at current political rhetoric, conservatives tend to hype the hard work of rich people, democrats hype their luck and want to see them knocked down a few pegs. Hell, look at IT and incels for an example of this at play: "Chads are attractive because of their personality or other traits which are achievable through effort" vs "Life is unfair because Chads are born and not made, let's remake society so everything is fair again".

Floyd Mayweather, Will Smith, Donald Trump, and countless others have freely admitted to the hard work they did (or sometimes didn't do) because it makes them seem more relatable to average people. People want to see themselves as hard workers, so they look for that in others as well.

For most things, it's best to pretend you worked hard even if you didn't.

The thing is, this doesn't apply for looksmaxxing or personalitymaxxing.

The reason it doesn't apply to looksmaxxing is that vanity is considered taboo in society. We are supposed to pretend to play the game that 'looks don't matter', and seeing somebody put an abnormal amount of effort into their looks reminds the normies that looks matter, which makes them uncomfortable. That's why you see people say "I do X for myself" and believe it.

The reason it doesn't apply to personalitymaxxing is because people don't like feeling like they are being deceived. This is why society is so obsessed with 'authenticity' today. If you told somebody you read and applied The Charisma Myth, they would feel like you were lying to them about your actual personality. Ironically the only way people respect manufactured personalities is if you tell them you were shy and worked really hard to become more confident (but not specific techniques to learn to appeal to people, god forbid you be fake).

So fight club still applies to the blackpill, but not for the reason you think it does.

Also @PrettyBoyMaxxing

Telling people your goals helps you follow through due to prosocial emotions, which are stronger than willpower alone. You don't want to be a failure, or worse, somebody who didn't even try. You also want the dopamine from writing down your goals, because it is a taste of the dopamine of actually achieving them.

What you don't want is the dopamine you get from writing this kind of post. I will never get back the 15 minutes I spent writing something that doesn't benefit my long term goals.
 
Bump for the newCels to read
 
How can I not talk about looksmaxxing when one day I will take paid time off from work and return with a chiseled face and I'll be questioned by all my coworkers?
 
How can I not talk about looksmaxxing when one day I will take paid time off from work and return with a chiseled face and I'll be questioned by all my coworkers?
Fuck your coWorkers they’re gonna gossip about you if you don’t tell them and will hate you if you do tell them the truth. I’m 90% sure my roomies will know I got some form of non surgery expansion or surgery but idc I’m just gonna tell them I lost weight, started hitting the gym, eating healthier and drinking more water, sleeping 10+ hours a day to fix my moon cratered dark circles
 
the first rule of looksmaxxing is that there are no rules 😈
 
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Still a greycel, i see
 
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Indeed. And the ones who taked this rule most serious are body builders.
Niggas who are as big as Arnold are claiming natural in this era.
 
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legit thread. Should be one of the mottos on this site
 
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There are people who have been browsing here for months and still fat LMAO
 
The Italians, one of the most stereotypically romantic and charismatic ethnicity, the Italians, have a word for this idea. In fact they have had a word for it for almost 500 years. They call it sprezzatura. Sprezzatura is described as a ‘studied carelessness’. Most people apply it towards fashion, but the first time it was described by Baldassare Castiglione
I'm italian and I didn't know this word, jfl at my culture

Good thread btw
 
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The first rule of looksmaxxing is the most important. You must internalize it, and truly believe it before you can begin your looksmaxxing journey, while simultaneously making the most of your results. This applies not only to looksmaxxing, but any and all forms of self-improvement that you will do throughout your life.

The first rule of looksmaxxing is: You do not talk about looksmaxxing.

“Why is that?” you might ask. The answer is clear. People, whether they admit it or not, have certain ideas, thoughts, and preferences in their heads that they can’t control.

An “implicit bias” if you will.

Why do you think there is an infatuation with so called “prodigies” in our society?

Do people revere the person who works hard all their life, learning and studying to improve themselves, or do they admire the one mysterious somebody who makes it all look easy and natural, as if they were born to do it?

Do people want to hear about the guy who gave it his all in college and spent endless nights studying to get the A, just like everyone else, or do they only want to hear about the kid who does it all without even needing to try?

Do people admire the guy who is fascinated by different cultures and languages, and spent all of his life learning about them, or do they only want to hear about the guy who has been able to speak to almost anyone since he was 13?

If you’re wondering why I’m asking all of the rhetorical questions, it’s because I’m trying to prove a point, a point that you probably already know, but fail to enact.

People want successful people who make it look easy. They want people who make it looks easy. They want naturals.

Unfortunately for many people, they don’t fall into any of these categories. Most people are painfully average, living monotonous lives, giving it their all to be just another drop in the bucket, making it obvious to others just how hard they’re trying in order to even just stay afloat.

Others manage to make a splash, a splash large enough to offset them from the rest of the flock, but still manage to make the fatal mistake of telling people about how hard it was to get there.

In an even smaller group, you have people who have a natural aptitude to certain activities, and excel at them with ease. The first two groups love these people, they are infatuated with them. They’re the naturals, the prodigies.

And finally, we have the last group, the group who has no choice but to work just as hard as the first two, gets the results of the second but gets all of the same admiration as the third.

How?

By shutting the fuck up about how much effort they’re putting in or how hard they worked.

Both the third and fourth group of people have the exact same social value in the eyes of the flock, because the fourth group has learned the art of shutting the fuck up. By not telling others about what they’re working on, or have worked on, people admire them in the same way that they do the naturals, because in eyes of the flock, they’re no different.

The flock doesn’t just want people who look good or do things well, the want people who look good and do things well without even needing to try.

Have you ever enthusiastically told others about starting a new diet, or elaborating to others about some newfound plan about how you are going to improve your life, and all of a sudden they start to tear you down in subtle ways, or start to treat you differently?

It’s because of that implicit bias. They don’t like tryhards, they don’t like frauds, and they don’t like people who aren’t naturals. They don’t like people who weren’t born with it.

You avoid this by not talking about your efforts, by not showing to others, either explicitly or implicitly, all the work you put into taking care of and improving yourself.

The Italians, one of the most stereotypically romantic and charismatic ethnicity, the Italians, have a word for this idea. In fact they have had a word for it for almost 500 years. They call it sprezzatura. Sprezzatura is described as a ‘studied carelessness’. Most people apply it towards fashion, but the first time it was described by Baldassare Castiglione, it applied to all aspects of a person’s life, desires, feelings, thoughts, and more importantly, actions. It’s an effort to make every aspect of your life, including the parts worthy of admiration that, while in reality took large amounts of effort and time, look easy and natural.

See, when you employ sprezzatura during your looksmaxxing journey, and more importantly throughout your entire life, even after you’re ‘done’ looksmaxxing, you reap its benefits in the form of admiration and praise for being, living, and acting in a way that others want you to be, and wish they were.

In reality, it’s the one way of ascending when you aren’t already ascended. It allows you to burn away the dead underbrush, and allow for new branches and leaves to grow. It allows you to shed all of your baggage and become something new. You begin to truly believe that you had it in you all along, and your actions and characteristics soon follow suit.

As Castiglione talks about in his book, one of sprezzatura’s greatest virtues is that it allows you to get lost in, and eventually become, one with your nonchalance and charisma; a true natural.

It’s a difficult road, trust me. People are fundamentally social animals. We all want to talk with others about how we’re going to improve, how hard we’ve worked, and how much better off we are for it. They’re also hilariously judgmental, in the ways I’ve talked about previously. They don’t like to see plateaus, or the inevitable stagnation that you have to break through when improving yourself, all they want to see are results. It really is the duality of man.

But doing so is the most important part of really beginning your looksmaxxing journey.

Hopefully I’ve shed some insight on the type of mentality you need to put yourself in, in order to truly maximize and reap the rewards of your looksmaxxing, and more generally any form of self-improvement.
mirin brah.
 
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I'm italian and I didn't know this word, jfl at my culture

Good thread btw
For a beautiful example, check out Gianni Agnelli the former heir of Fiat Group. He is considered one of the timeless examples of sprezzatura. Not only his style but also his whole way fo life. Classic italian gentleman.

Also you will benefit froma studying the works of courtiers like Baldassare.
 
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Agree with conclusion, disagree with the reasoning used to get there.

Society has always respected the plucky underdog who worked hard more than the overdog who was born better. Normies want to cope that life is completely just, or else destroy what they see as an unfair advantage. Look at current political rhetoric, conservatives tend to hype the hard work of rich people, democrats hype their luck and want to see them knocked down a few pegs. Hell, look at IT and incels for an example of this at play: "Chads are attractive because of their personality or other traits which are achievable through effort" vs "Life is unfair because Chads are born and not made, let's remake society so everything is fair again".

Floyd Mayweather, Will Smith, Donald Trump, and countless others have freely admitted to the hard work they did (or sometimes didn't do) because it makes them seem more relatable to average people. People want to see themselves as hard workers, so they look for that in others as well.

For most things, it's best to pretend you worked hard even if you didn't.

The thing is, this doesn't apply for looksmaxxing or personalitymaxxing.

The reason it doesn't apply to looksmaxxing is that vanity is considered taboo in society. We are supposed to pretend to play the game that 'looks don't matter', and seeing somebody put an abnormal amount of effort into their looks reminds the normies that looks matter, which makes them uncomfortable. That's why you see people say "I do X for myself" and believe it.

The reason it doesn't apply to personalitymaxxing is because people don't like feeling like they are being deceived. This is why society is so obsessed with 'authenticity' today. If you told somebody you read and applied The Charisma Myth, they would feel like you were lying to them about your actual personality. Ironically the only way people respect manufactured personalities is if you tell them you were shy and worked really hard to become more confident (but not specific techniques to learn to appeal to people, god forbid you be fake).

So fight club still applies to the blackpill, but not for the reason you think it does.

Also @PrettyBoyMaxxing

Telling people your goals helps you follow through due to prosocial emotions, which are stronger than willpower alone. You don't want to be a failure, or worse, somebody who didn't even try. You also want the dopamine from writing down your goals, because it is a taste of the dopamine of actually achieving them.

What you don't want is the dopamine you get from writing this kind of post. I will never get back the 15 minutes I spent writing something that doesn't benefit my long term goals.
Mirin the balance to the originla post by putting into words what i was feeling tbh.
 
Really good post, deserves a bump.
 
only normies have a burning desire to share every little aspect of their subhuman lives with their subhuman cattle 'friends' :Comfy::feelsokman: normies basically have hole tier brains with their incessant babble
 
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Very good thread.
 
Agree with conclusion, disagree with the reasoning used to get there.

Society has always respected the plucky underdog who worked hard more than the overdog who was born better. Normies want to cope that life is completely just, or else destroy what they see as an unfair advantage. Look at current political rhetoric, conservatives tend to hype the hard work of rich people, democrats hype their luck and want to see them knocked down a few pegs. Hell, look at IT and incels for an example of this at play: "Chads are attractive because of their personality or other traits which are achievable through effort" vs "Life is unfair because Chads are born and not made, let's remake society so everything is fair again".

Floyd Mayweather, Will Smith, Donald Trump, and countless others have freely admitted to the hard work they did (or sometimes didn't do) because it makes them seem more relatable to average people. People want to see themselves as hard workers, so they look for that in others as well.

For most things, it's best to pretend you worked hard even if you didn't.

The thing is, this doesn't apply for looksmaxxing or personalitymaxxing.

The reason it doesn't apply to looksmaxxing is that vanity is considered taboo in society. We are supposed to pretend to play the game that 'looks don't matter', and seeing somebody put an abnormal amount of effort into their looks reminds the normies that looks matter, which makes them uncomfortable. That's why you see people say "I do X for myself" and believe it.

The reason it doesn't apply to personalitymaxxing is because people don't like feeling like they are being deceived. This is why society is so obsessed with 'authenticity' today. If you told somebody you read and applied The Charisma Myth, they would feel like you were lying to them about your actual personality. Ironically the only way people respect manufactured personalities is if you tell them you were shy and worked really hard to become more confident (but not specific techniques to learn to appeal to people, god forbid you be fake).

So fight club still applies to the blackpill, but not for the reason you think it does.

Also @PrettyBoyMaxxing

Telling people your goals helps you follow through due to prosocial emotions, which are stronger than willpower alone. You don't want to be a failure, or worse, somebody who didn't even try. You also want the dopamine from writing down your goals, because it is a taste of the dopamine of actually achieving them.

What you don't want is the dopamine you get from writing this kind of post. I will never get back the 15 minutes I spent writing something that doesn't benefit my long term goals.
GIVE YOURSELF A CLAP. THIS TRUMPS THE ORIGINAL POST
 

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