Which are more insufferable-red pill gymcels or stubbornly bluepill normies?

[IHATEINDIANS]

With the red pill guys, you get the bonus that they at least have basic understanding that it's not all personality, but their copes with gymcelling and "game" are often extremely cringe and hard to listen to.

With the bluepillers, they'll never admit looks actually matter despite literally everything in reality going against their cope world view, but at least they usually have decently good intent. Note: I'm specifically implying the type you'll see on somewhere like r/inceltears who will argue with you but just deny facts for hours.

Which are more insufferable/cringe in your opinion?

 

[messi1]

redpiller is more cringe
bluepiller don't think look is not important,ther think look is just a small % of dating
meanwhile redpiller think an ugly guy who beat up other to show dominant will make woman wet

 

[greycel]

With the red pill guys, you get the bonus that they at least have basic understanding that it's not all personality, but their copes with gymcelling and "game" are often extremely cringe and hard to listen to.

With the bluepillers, they'll never admit looks actually matter despite literally everything in reality going against their cope world view, but at least they usually have decently good intent.

Which are more insufferable/cringe in your opinion?

Redpill is slept on tbh

Is far better for life
Is far better for relationships

Money is your power and respect in society
Not to mention you’ll get more respect from other men (what it takes to go up in the world), from having a gymcelled physique over looking attractive without physique

For relationships/women, is the key

 

[IHATEINDIANS]

Redpill is slept on tbh

Is far better for life
Is far better for relationships

Money is your power and respect in society
Not to mention you’ll get more respect from other men (what it takes to go up in the world), from having a gymcelled physique over looking attractive without physique

For relationships/women, is the key

I agree. The redpill itself is not that terrible in thought, many aspects are actually legit. But damn, a huge portion of its follower base is insanely terrible and cringe.

 

[SamuraiCope]

Average red piller is either a divorcee coping with "muh men age like fine wine", or short ethnic copers talking about "reading muh books n self improoving". Avg bluepiller is low iq, but they at least they wont force you to listen to some cope podcast or criticize you for not improoving, just avoid talking about dating with bluepillers and you'll be fine

 

[greycel]

I agree. The redpill itself is not that terrible in thought, many aspects are actually legit. But damn, a huge portion of its follower base is insanely terrible and cringe.

The problem with is that they think it’s the most important when it comes to relationships
Will always matter more, at least for the initial (genuine) attraction

Other than that, are far more right than are. In other factors, that aren’t largely dependent on genetics (such as looks), there’s far less effect that predeterminism has. Especially since most ways to the top involve discipline + mentality, that often possess but and hardly do.

Is by far the closest answer to majority of life

 

[我需要阴部]

Is it even a question lol?

 

[messi1]

a huge portion of its follower base is insanely terrible and cringe.

,95% of them is cringe,5 % is smart newbie
the smart newbie will leave after few month

 

[sub5loserr]

bluepillers are retards that blindly follow. they cant tell the difference between and incel and a redpiller. i voted bluepiller but as i think about it more its probably redpiller. not a bluepillers fault that their stupid

 

[IHATEINDIANS]

bluepillers are retards that blindly follow. they cant tell the difference between and incel and a redpiller. i voted bluepiller but as i think about it more its probably redpiller. not a bluepillers fault that their stupid

I should have specified I meant the blue piller types you see on inceltears or something who can deny facts for hours on end rather than normies who don't really care enough to argue, so there's definitely an argument there.

 

[sub5loserr]

I should have specified I meant the blue piller types you see on inceltears or something who can deny facts for hours on end rather than normies who don't really care enough to argue, so there's definitely an argument there.

bluepillers on incel tears in 4. they made this issue they can deal with it

 

[messi1]

red piller give retard advise like
treat woman like dog and children
try to look intimidate
act aggressive because it a manly thing
they call bluepiller incel but they forget ther are incel too(gymcel)

 

[messi1]

bluepillers are retards that blindly follow. they cant tell the difference between and incel and a redpiller. i voted bluepiller but as i think about it more its probably redpiller. not a bluepillers fault that their stupid

redpiller=99% incel in denial
they think they are different than incel just because they have muscel and act like an asshole

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Redpill is slept on tbh

Is far better for life
Is far better for relationships

Money is your power and respect in society
Not to mention you’ll get more respect from other men (what it takes to go up in the world), from having a gymcelled physique over looking attractive without physique

For relationships/women, is the key

Blackpill is definitely not the key for relationships. Girls will get bored as fuck with a man who's extremely good looking if that's all he's got going for him. And money is not key for respect. It will make beta normies respect you for sure. But bold types of people won't give damn how much money you got. You could have all the money in the world and people will still give more respect a broke type of Chad that would bang your girl behind your back. They'll respect him more than you and you better believe he won't give a damn about how much money you got. He'll punk you to your face and have your secretly girl creaming over him the entire time.

 

[greycel]

Blackpill is definitely not the key for relationships.

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Will always matter more, at least for the initial (genuine) attraction

Girls will get bored as fuck with a man who's extremely good looking if that's all he's got going for him. And money is not key for respect. It will make beta normies respect you for sure. But bold types of people won't give damn how much money you got. You could have all the money in the world and people will still respect a broke as fuck Chad that would bang your girl behind your. They'll respect him more than you and you better believe he won't give a damn about how much money you got. He'll punk you to your face and have your secretly girl creaming over him the entire time.

No rich person or guy of value gives a fuck what an average nobody thinks. There’s billions of people in this world, there’s very few multimillionaires
With money comes power
You’re only going to give a shit what people of your socioeconomic class will think (@Whatever)

Lots of average day normies that are meaningless to the guy in charge. And he’s in charge either because he has links/ famous/ rich… in every case it comes down to either directly/indirectly having money
You don’t understand this because you’re a normie in day to day life. You’re nobody special so you relate with 95% of other people, since they are all in a similar socioeconomic class as you

Which is why it’s no wonder you can’t see outside the box you’ve lived in your entire life

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Average red piller is either a divorcee coping with "muh men age like fine wine", or short ethnic copers talking about "reading muh books n self improoving". Avg bluepiller is low iq, but they at least they wont force you to listen to some cope podcast or criticize you for not improoving, just avoid talking about dating with bluepillers and you'll be fine

I'm a redpiller. The thing about being redpilled is you gotta be born with it. I've seen it so many times. A dude could have all the knowledge in the world about human nature but he can't apply it for shit and always comes off like a dweeb.

I don't give a fuck about improving. My life experience tells me I can get any type of bitch I want looking and smelling like dog shit. With fucked up teeth and everything. I ain't never set foot in a mother fucking gym besides when I've had to pick up clients.

 

[messi1]

Blackpill is definitely not the key for relationships

not redpill either
redpiller think acting like asshole=interesting
they even think humor is for beta,meanwhile alpha(them) have to be emotinaless all the time
do you think girl want to spend time with emotinaless guy

 

[kazama]

the worst: u know reality and accept it

 

[Magnus Ironblood]

Redpillers by far.

Bluepilled normies are super chilled normally.

 

[Saint NWG I]

Both 2 sides of the same unbearable coin. Both will blame you but for different reasons, both are genuinely retarded and wrong about literally everything, both think you’re a loser because you know that looks matter, both are physically incapable of thinking for themselves. But with that said, bluepillers are more annoying because their shit is even more disney fucking fairyland than the redpillers

 

[Lefty Rankin]

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No rich person or guy of value gives a fuck what an average nobody thinks. There’s billions of people in this world, there’s very few multimillionaires
With money comes power
You’re only going to give a shit what people of your socioeconomic class will think (@Whatever)

Lots of average day normies that are meaningless to the guy in charge. And he’s in charge either because he has links/ famous/ rich… in every case it comes down to either directly/indirectly having money
You don’t understand this because you’re a normie in day to day life. You’re nobody special so you relate with 95% of other people, since they are all in a similar socioeconomic class as you

Which is why it’s no wonder you can’t see outside the box you’ve lived in your entire life

But it doesn't matter what rich people think. An average nobody that's good with women will impose on them and take whatever they want from them whether that be girls, respect, or just attention. What do you think the average nobody Chad's gonna do when confronted by a rich person? Run away with his tail between his legs? A rich person will definitely care if you steal their fire in a public place. It's not about what the nobody thinks. It's what he does.

I'm the farthest thing from a normie there is. And I've never encountered a person that I relate to.

Do you really think rich people aren't normies?

 

[superpsycho]

redpillers cope with reality while bluepillers arent even aware of it

also redpillers are WAY more insufferable

 

[messi1]

milions girl have justin bieber's poster in their room
but redpiller think no girl love justin bieber because he's too skinny
can a person be more retard

 

[Lefty Rankin]

not redpill either
redpiller think acting like asshole=interesting
they even think humor is for beta,meanwhile alpha(them) have to be emotinaless all the time
do you think girl want to spend time with emotinaless guy

That's not true red pill. And acting like anything (emulating) isn't ever gonna come off as interesting. Just be greedy/selfish. That's why I said you gotta be born with it.

The people your talking about are just betas putting on a fruitless act. Of course you can have humor. Gangsters crack jokes all day long. They just don't laugh only because everyone else in the room is laughing.

 

[messi1]

That's not true red pill. And acting like anything (emulating) isn't ever gonna come off as interesting. Just be greedy/selfish. That's why I said you gotta be born with it.

The people your talking about are just betas putting on a fruitless act. Of course you can have humor. Gangsters crack jokes all day long. They just don't laugh only because everyone else in the room is laughing.

i'm talking about redpill's follower
most of them think call a woman dumb is a kind of humor
this is the kind of humor of most redpiller

 

[greycel]

But it doesn't matter what rich people think. An average nobody that's good with women will impose on them and take whatever they want from them whether that be girls, respect, or just attention. What do you think the average nobody Chad's gonna do when confronted by a rich person? Run away with his tail between his legs? A rich person will definitely care if you steal their fire in a public place. It's not about what the nobody thinks. It's what he does.

I'm the farthest thing from a normie there is. And I've never encountered a person that I relate to.

Do you really think rich people aren't normies?

When I say normie or not I’m talking in terms of your wealth

It does matter what rich people think
I’ll paint it this way. Your rich uncle could be a multimillionaire and disliked by 90% of the normie middle class people he knows. But 10% of friends and family are his business partners/high earning family friends etc

He doesn’t need the approval of those 90%

Even if it was 99-1. He’s capable of doing whatever he wants because he’s got access to do so, because of money
A Chad can’t do shit. If a supermodel wants to fuck you, when you are married, would you agree?

Likely no.
Firstly, your wife should be more attached to you than her..
Secondly, you should already be subjectively her type (physically)
Thirdly, even if you find others more attractive you won’t act on it.. for your woman it should be even more so
Fourthly, no Chad will specifically out of all women go for a married woman, who’s likely past prime age

So even if he did in this very very rare hypothetical, you’ll still hold more value, and can have her replaced faster than vice versa.. not to mention you’d be dodging a bullet. Also, it’s more in a woman’s nature to be invested in the relationship

Users who have this hyper-fixation on looks, thinking it’s the answer to all problems/solutions, either have it as a result of their ignorance or insecurity

 

[Lefty Rankin]

i'm talking about redpill's follower
most of them think call a woman dumb is a kind of humor
this is the kind of humor of most redpiller

Calling women dumb certainly can be a type of humor. Depends on who's doing it and why. Are you doing it because you think it will get women to like you more? Or are you doing it because you genuinely think it's funny? The reason you do it will make the difference in whether or not it comes off as funny and endearing to everyone else who hears it.

The irony is that the people who do that sort of thing because it's their nature, without a care in the world about how it's received or if anyone approves, will be received well. The people who do it to make people like them desperately care about the approval of others even though they pretend that they don't, and it shows. It's extremely unattractive.

 

[messi1]

Calling women dumb certainly can be a type of humor. Depends on who's doing it and why. Are you doing it because you think it will get women to like you more? Or are you doing it because you genuinely think it's funny? The reason you do it will make the difference in whether or not it comes off as funny and endearing to everyone else who hears it.

The irony is that the people who do that sort of thing because it's their nature, without a care in the world about how it's received or if anyone approves, will be received well. The people who do it to make people like them desperately care about the approval of others even though they pretend that they don't, and it shows. It's extremely unattractive.

i dont think you are a redpiller,
you kind of smart and logical,
you a too different than the other redpiller i counter
and i agree i calling woman dumb many time too,even my own family
but i say it because i think it fun,just like you,
meanwhile a lot of redpiller say it the bitter way,they say it because they hate woman

 

[Lefty Rankin]

When I say normie or not I’m talking in terms of your wealth

It does matter what rich people think
I’ll paint it this way. Your rich uncle could be a multimillionaire and disliked by 90% of the normie middle class people he knows. But 10% of friends and family are his business partners/high earning family friends etc

He doesn’t need the approval of those 90%

Even if it was 99-1. He’s capable of doing whatever he wants because he’s got access to do so, because of money
A Chad can’t do shit. If a supermodel wants to fuck you, when you are married, would you agree?

Likely no.
Firstly, your wife should be more attached to you than her..
Secondly, you should already be subjectively her type (physically)
Thirdly, even if you find others more attractive you won’t act on it.. for your woman it should be even more so
Fourthly, no Chad will specifically out of all women go for a married woman, who’s likely past prime age

So even if he did in this very very rare hypothetical, you’ll still hold more value, and can have her replaced faster than vice versa.. not to mention you’d be dodging a bullet. Also, it’s more in a woman’s nature to be invested in the relationship

Users who have this hyper-fixation on looks, thinking it’s the answer to all problems/solutions, either have it as a result of their ignorance or insecurity

Yeah, fixating on looks is stupid.

Anyways, let me tell you something about women you might not understand.

Some women will cheat on any type of man no matter what. Some women will only cheat on a certain type of man or in a certain situation. Some women will never cheat on any type of man regardless of the situation.

If you aren't the type of man that the second type of woman wouldn't cheat on, but married to the third type of woman then you might as well just give up. You want to have the third type of woman so she doesn't cheat but still be the type of man she remains attracted to. And money has nothing to do with any of this.

 

[greycel]

Yeah, fixating on looks is stupid.

Anyways, let me tell you something about women you might not understand.

Some women will cheat on any type of man no matter what. Some women will only cheat on a certain type of man or in a certain situation. Some women will never cheat on any type of man regardless of the situation.th

If you aren't the type of man that the second type of woman wouldn't cheat on, but married to the third type of woman then you might as well just give up. You want to have the third type of woman so she doesn't cheat but still be the type of man she remains attracted to. And money has nothing to do with any of this.

Well it’ll be pretty evident if you are or aren’t that man based off if you’ve got a dead bedroom or not right?
And the older the women get, the more that male dimorphism matters for your appeal to them.
So simply by working out, your appeal to her is only going to get higher and higher/ remain high

So a gymmaxed guy in his 40s, who doesn’t have a dead bedroom will be with a girl who’s attracted to him

But then how do you differentiate if she’s girl 2 or girl 3? If you’ve consistently put effort towards your appearance, then she would’ve always been with you because she’s been attracted
So you don’t ever know if she’ll leave if the attraction drops

What do u think the answer is?

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Well it’ll be pretty evident if you are or aren’t that man based off if you’ve got a dead bedroom or not right?
And the older the women get, the more that male dimorphism matters for your appeal to them.
So simply by working out, your appeal to her is only going to get higher and higher/ remain high

So a gymmaxed guy in his 40s, who doesn’t have a dead bedroom will be with a girl who’s attracted to him

But then how do you differentiate if she’s girl 2 or girl 3? If you’ve consistently put effort towards your appearance, then she would’ve always been with you because she’s been attracted
So you don’t ever know if she’ll leave if the attraction drops

What do u think the answer is?

As long as you're just not unnatractive it's got nothing to do with how you look.

Believe it or not I've never been denied sex in my life. Girls have always loved me no matter how I look. Young, old, hot, ugly, slutty, pure, normal and weird women. I've been married for 7 years now but I still get girls of all types trying to flirt with me every day and finding silly excuses just to be around me.

Finding the third type of girl has to do with your experience with getting to understand women. Doesn't necessarily mean you gotta have a lot of sex with them. You just gotta be interested in reading between the lines and seeing through the things that 99% of people can't.

 

[Yliaster]

Redpillers at least have a fundamental understanding that Looks play a big factor in attracting women

Whereas with Bluepillers like actual hardcore reddit tier Bluepillers they are almost non human entities who are
committed to misunderstanding you or anything that deviates from their Just World Fallacy.

Redpillers cope a lot but I have debated with many of them in the past and the only things they cope frequently
about are Race and Phenotype.Other than that Id say a lot of them are about 40% Blackpilled.

 

[Yliaster]

Only difference between Redpillers and Blackpill is they cope in constructive ways rather than endorse to others to
ldar if they dont look like a TikTok Prettyboy

 

[Yliaster]

And having Game does matter

Just ask Amnesia about his dating life

 

[Klasik616]

Bluepillers cannot accept the fact they're betabuxxing and entertaining a woman, if the woman doesn't want to have sex frequently they think it's her personality when in reality is the way men look.

 

[IHATEINDIANS]

And having Game does matter

Just ask Amnesia about his dating life

Charisma isn't a cope but the way a lot redpillers teach it is. No foid is gonna see you as charismatic for repeating some line you saw in a video with awkward flow

 

[valentine]

gymcels