Why is Clav wanting more surgery?

[InanimatePragmatist]

I just watched his video with Goatis reacting to it.
Tldr Clav wants more Jaw surgeries, you know. The ones that are mostly reserved medically for extreme accidents where your face is literally ripped apart or other severe issues relating to such. Now Clav wants to get it so he can have a better jaw and in general facial harmony; which he already has but still refuses to stand down regarding looksmaxxing as he will end up as the next Jamie.

See what I said about surgeries? Even if you ascend with soft looksmaxxing, nothing will end up changing. The same genetics are always going to be there. Sometimes you do improve and you do change a lot due to soft maxxing (EG going to the gym to lose some fat, eating better, taking care of your hair or skin) but that is the max you can really do in the end. That is the best and most natural extent of your genetics is by what you can achieve via soft maxxing. Now taking surgeries? It is over. Stop trying to do so, you will end up as a desperate clone, another no body trying to be somebody whilst their cover up their genetics with fake plastic.

There is a massive difference between a natural attractive face and one made by surgery. One is real and the other is not, everyone can sense it. Also Clav is a MTN due to ND and the lacking ability to mask along with normies. No matter how hard he tries, it will end up in nothing, he will only surround himself amongst selfish two faced parasite like normies who are only there due to them being brainwashed into thinking such groups are needed. Tell me, what friend records you being upset that your woman is talking to another man? Or records whilst your eating but then you attempt to cover up the way you normally do, so you can look better in the camera? @Clavicular I would advise if you to rethink your choices in life, you are only dooming other young men to the same trap as yourself chasing nothingness thinking it is meaningful. Yet maybe that was your genetic fate the whole time, being amongst snakes till death.

 

[FastBananaCEO]

It’s his whole brand to looksmax constantly

Getting the surgeries give his online persona another arc for teenage fans to hype up or meme

 

[registerfasterusing]

I just watched his video with Goatis reacting to it.
Tldr Clav wants more Jaw surgeries, you know. The ones that are mostly reserved medically for extreme accidents where your face is literally ripped apart or other severe issues relating to such. Now Clav wants to get it so he can have a better jaw and in general facial harmony; which he already has but still refuses to stand down regarding looksmaxxing as he will end up as the next Jamie.

See what I said about surgeries? Even if you ascend with soft looksmaxxing, nothing will end up changing. The same genetics are always going to be there. Sometimes you do improve and you do change a lot due to soft maxxing (EG going to the gym to lose some fat, eating better, taking care of your hair or skin) but that is the max you can really do in the end. That is the best and most natural extent of your genetics is by what you can achieve via soft maxxing. Now taking surgeries? It is over. Stop trying to do so, you will end up as a desperate clone, another no body trying to be somebody whilst their cover up their genetics with fake plastic.

There is a massive difference between a natural attractive face and one made by surgery. One is real and the other is not, everyone can sense it. Also Clav is a MTN due to ND and the lacking ability to mask along with normies.

I agree w half of what u said

 

[FastBananaCEO]

Also is this you?

 

[crn]

i don’t think he’s done any surgery yet

i know he did diy lemonbottle and pdo but i don’t think that counts as surgery

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Also is this you?

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Always was. My old AVI on YT used to be the one I have here but I changed it back. Go to my second channel if you wish to find my deleted videos, YT struck them down.

It’s his whole brand to looksmax constantly

Getting the surgeries give his online persona another arc for teenage fans to hype up or meme

I know, it is a pathetic and sad grift that he is going to pay the highest price in.

 

[Mainlander]

LL is the only surgery that can truly fix a failo

 

[TyroneΩ]

There is a massive difference between a natural attractive face and one made by surgery. One is real and the other is not, everyone can sense it.

I don’t agree. Obviously if you whole lower third is 100% perfect, it might raise some suspicion, but this doesn’t only happen with individuals who had surgery. If you’re cl+ and somewhat big in the bp community, people are gonna assume you had work done, just like everyone assumes that every fitness influencer roids secretly.

It would be a lie to say that women are attracted to man-made Chads though. Chads are seen highly, primarily because they’re rare. Obviously sub 3’s are rare too but everyone can become a sub3 easily, simply by aging for example, while not everyone can become a chad. If one gets work done OR if one looksmaxxes naturally, it is most important to make it look effortless/hide the hardmaxx (whether it be roids or surgery).

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

I don’t agree. Obviously if you whole lower third is 100% perfect, it might raise some suspicion, but this doesn’t only happen with individuals who had surgery. If you’re cl+ and somewhat big in the bp community, people are gonna assume you had work done, just like everyone assumes that every fitness influencer roids secretly.

It would be a lie to say that women are attracted to man-made Chads though. Chads are seen highly, primarily because they’re rare. Obviously sub 3’s are rare too but everyone can become a sub3 easily, simply by aging for example, while not everyone can become a chad. If one gets work done OR if one looksmaxxes naturally, it is most important to make it look effortless/hide the hardmaxx (whether it be roids or surgery).

No doctor can operate an abused dog made up of 20 plus years of neglect out of you.

 

[kurd]

I just watched his video with Goatis reacting to it.
Tldr Clav wants more Jaw surgeries, you know. The ones that are mostly reserved medically for extreme accidents where your face is literally ripped apart or other severe issues relating to such. Now Clav wants to get it so he can have a better jaw and in general facial harmony; which he already has but still refuses to stand down regarding looksmaxxing as he will end up as the next Jamie.

See what I said about surgeries? Even if you ascend with soft looksmaxxing, nothing will end up changing. The same genetics are always going to be there. Sometimes you do improve and you do change a lot due to soft maxxing (EG going to the gym to lose some fat, eating better, taking care of your hair or skin) but that is the max you can really do in the end. That is the best and most natural extent of your genetics is by what you can achieve via soft maxxing. Now taking surgeries? It is over. Stop trying to do so, you will end up as a desperate clone, another no body trying to be somebody whilst their cover up their genetics with fake plastic.

There is a massive difference between a natural attractive face and one made by surgery. One is real and the other is not, everyone can sense it. Also Clav is a MTN due to ND and the lacking ability to mask along with normies. No matter how hard he tries, it will end up in nothing, he will only surround himself amongst selfish two faced parasite like normies who are only there due to them being brainwashed into thinking such groups are needed. Tell me, what friend records you being upset that your woman is talking to another man? Or records whilst your eating but then you attempt to cover up the way you normally do, so you can look better in the camera? @Clavicular I would advise if you to rethink your choices in life, you are only dooming other young men to the same trap as yourself chasing nothingness thinking it is meaningful. Yet maybe that was your genetic fate the whole time, being amongst snakes till death.

is Goatis retarded,

Double jaw surgery is not something that covers up a issue, it fixes the issue because it is actually changing it functionally, hes thinking of fillers and shit. What a retard

 

[StraightHeadJames]

LL is the only surgery that can truly fix a failo

are u retarded?

 

[TyroneΩ]

No doctor can operate an abused dog made up of 20 plus years of neglect out of you.

Yes. There is no nt surgery.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

is Goatis retarded,

Double jaw surgery is not something that covers up a issue, it fixes the issue because it is actually changing it functionally, hes thinking of fillers and shit. What a retard

He meant it in another way I think.

 

[StraightHeadJames]

is Goatis retarded,

Double jaw surgery is not something that covers up a issue, it fixes the issue because it is actually changing it functionally, hes thinking of fillers and shit. What a retard

thats still covering up the issue dumbass

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Yes. There is no nt surgery.

Not even NT surgery, just in general. If you are born as a mtn, you will never be a chad. To be chad, you need to be raised and to live like one naturally.

 

[Mainlander]

are u retarded?

And i forgot hair transplant

everything else is F tier surgery

 

[TyroneΩ]

is Goatis retarded,

Double jaw surgery is not something that covers up a issue, it fixes the issue because it is actually changing it functionally, hes thinking of fillers and shit. What a retard

I don’t think Goatis knows alot about surgery. I mean why would he?

 

[superpsycho]

no surgery for your abused dog psyche

 

[kurd]

thats still covering up the issue dumbass

What he means by covering up the issue is camouflaging it,

Double jaw surgery isn’t a camouflage

 

[StraightHeadJames]

What he means by covering up the issue is camouflaging it,

Double jaw surgery isn’t a camouflage

no dude the issue he meant was malnourishment

and getting a surgery to fix the jaw caused by malnourishment would be covering up the fact that u were malnourished


thats it bud

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

What he means by covering up the issue is camouflaging it,

Double jaw surgery isn’t a camouflage

It covers up your insecurity.

 

[TyroneΩ]

Not even NT surgery, just in general. If you are born as a mtn, you will never be a chad. To be chad, you need to be raised and to live like one naturally.

Your mannerisms with girls will stay the same yes, but due to halo, it doesn’t matter.

I’ve seen a 6’8 black pua on tiktok, who got approached and told the girls he’s a bum who lives with his mom and the girls said we love bums.

 

[kurd]

no dude the issue he meant was malnourishment

and getting a surgery to fix the jaw caused by malnourishment would be covering up the fact that u were malnourished


thats it bud

What

Your jaw being recessed isn’t due to malnourishment, thats the most retarded thing i’ve heard

 

[kurd]

It covers up your insecurity.

And it will remove that insecurity? i don’t see your point..

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Your mannerisms with girls will stay the same yes, but due to halo, it doesn’t matter.

I’ve seen a 6’8 black pua on tiktok, who got approached and told the girls he’s a bum who lives with his mom and the girls said we love bums.

One example will not change the norm.

 

[StraightHeadJames]

What

Your jaw being recessed isn’t due to malnourishment, thats the most retarded thing i’ve heard

thats what he claimed though

and could certainly be true

 

[Localcat12345]

Not even NT surgery, just in general. If you are born as a mtn, you will never be a chad. To be chad, you need to be raised and to live like one naturally.

You can at least reach htn with a mtn base if you hardmaxx

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

And it will remove that insecurity? i don’t see your point..

Oh really? You think Clav will stop at that one surgery? Name one person who did so, as far as I remember. The person who ascended the most via surgery on this forum has roped years ago.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

You can at least reach htn with a mtn base if you hardmaxx

All that effort, for a drop of nothing.

 

[Localcat12345]

All that effort, for a drop of nothing.

mtn to htn is a big difference? Htn is where you are visibly good looking if you are a tall htn white person it began for you

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

mtn to htn is a big difference? Htn is where you are visibly good looking if you are a tall htn white person it began for you

Barely. If you had to hardmaxx, it is already over. If you cannot understand that, then you will never.

 

[TyroneΩ]

One example will not change the norm.

I honestly disagree. I mean isn’t that the fundament of lookism?

An introverted sub5 is a weirdo
An introverted normie is shy
An introverted Chad is mysterious

Those were some of the first things I learned when discovering the blackpill.

 

[Localcat12345]

Barely. If you had to hardmaxx, it is already over. If you cannot understand that, then you will never.

I mean if you are mtn but you don't have to hardmaxx but it will improve your life stop coping and saying it wont lol

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

I honestly disagree. I mean isn’t that the fundament of lookism?

An introverted sub5 is a weirdo
An introverted normie is shy
An introverted Chad is mysterious

Those were some of the first things I learned when discovering the blackpill.

Lookism and psychology go hand in hand like lovers. The blackpill runs deeper than mere looks. It goes into the very fabric of physiological ingrainings of mankind and life itself. Your body is your mind, people can always sense what is up with you without needing to know you. That is why we have the gut feeling. Gut feelings can pop for weaker people too.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

I mean if you are mtn but you don't have to hardmaxx but it will improve your life stop coping and saying it wont lol

Then be my guest and prove me wrong by doing it yourself.

 

[Localcat12345]

Then be my guest and prove me wrong by doing it yourself.

Planning on it

 

[kurd]

Oh really? You think Clav will stop at that one surgery? Name one person who did so, as far as I remember. The person who ascended the most via surgery on this forum has roped years ago.

Buddy,

Looksmaxxing is about fixing your failos and your failos are your insecurities, When you fix them, the insecurity ans failo goes away meaning you won’t think about it anymore aswell you’ll look better which makes your quality of life better and get treated better. Mental health isn’t a real thing, you look bad? ok u gonna have shit mental health cus ur gonna get treated like shit wherever u go, its the opposite with looking good.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Planning on it

You will only ever do so just that.

Buddy,

Looksmaxxing is about fixing your failos and your failos are your insecurities, When you fix them, the insecurity ans failo goes away meaning you won’t think about it anymore aswell you’ll look better which makes your quality of life better and get treated better. Mental health isn’t a real thing, you look bad? ok u gonna have shit mental health cus ur gonna get treated like shit wherever u go, its the opposite with looking good.

How naive and ignorant. You really believe life is all about just looks? The only time I can agree with you on your statement if someone who very very good looking. Besides that, you cannot escape that easily.

 

[TyroneΩ]

Lookism and psychology go hand in hand like lovers. The blackpill runs deeper than mere looks. It goes into the very fabric of physiological ingrainings of mankind and life itself. Your body is your mind, people can always sense what is up with you without needing to know you. That is why we have the gut feeling. Gut feelings can pop for weaker people too.

Very interesting. I’m not a blackpill grandmaster, like you so I’ll take your word.

Mirin the intellect btw.

I also appreciate your high iq threads.

 

[Localcat12345]

You will only ever do so just that.

How naive and ignorant. You really believe life is all about just looks? The only time I can agree with you on your statement if someone who very very good looking. Besides that, you cannot escape that easily.

Already did have one surgery went well swelling is going down slowly but already i fixed a functional and aesthetic problem and got compliments from it. Saying surgery is cope you are just lying to yourself because it cant safe your face but many people do benefit from surgery who dont lose their minds over looks

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Already did have one surgery went well swelling is going down slowly but already i fixed a functional and aesthetic problem and got compliments from it. Saying surgery is cope you are just lying to yourself because it cant safe your face but many people do benefit from surgery who dont lose their minds over looks

Compliments but no one is by your side still. How old are you?

 

[Localcat12345]

Compliments but no one is by your side still. How old are you?

I am 19 and in a relationship and had past relationships

 

[Localcat12345]

Compliments but no one is by your side still. How old are you?

Look man you can look at it this way if you think its cope sure but denying that it doesn't do anything for your looks is just ignorant maybe not as much as you would like to but it does impact them and in some cases severely

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

I am 19 and in a relationship and had past relationships

"Gave up on women last girl I dated for 4 years almost shattered my heart so much i have been into a deep depression for about 2 years and went to the military to serve my year and earned around 20k and i already spent 3k on a surgery and will do more in 5 months"

I saw a looksmatched couple making out in public

Chubby about avg woman and chubby bearded manlet were tongue fucking as I was coming home from a smash tournament. Mutual love between avg looking ppl. I felt happy abt their public indecency. Maybe oofy doofy theory is false?

looksmax.org

"Sadly girls consider me "uncanny" but i had gotten some attention"

I saw a looksmatched couple making out in public

Chubby about avg woman and chubby bearded manlet were tongue fucking as I was coming home from a smash tournament. Mutual love between avg looking ppl. I felt happy abt their public indecency. Maybe oofy doofy theory is false?

looksmax.org

"My looksmatch is enjoying life while i rot here"

I would advise to stop lying to yourself. Let alone to me.