Why you shouldn’t get LeFort surgery

[thecel]

Why you shouldn't get a Lefort III?

Over projection of the maxilla and cheekbones is unattractive

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@BugeyeBigNoseCurry

@SkinjobCatastrophe has been “Recovering from LeFort 3” for who knows how long. Years?

No one wants to recover for that long. Don’t get Le Fort 3.

 

[User49]

Ok

 

[Deleted member 27014]

All lefort is cope. Imagine busting your skull open to get a chance for some pussy lmfao

 

[thecel]

All lefort is cope. Imagine busting your skull open to get a chance for some pussy lmfao

yea describing it this way makes it sound ridiculous, but desperate times call for desperate measures

 

[Deleted member 21661]

yea describing it this way makes it sound ridiculous, but desperate times call for desperate measures

Looksmaxxing is such a hilarious topic when you think about that.
Extensive skin routines, tanning, wearing uncomfortable lifts everywhere, working hard at the gym day in and day out, these are fairly normie/socially acceptable things (well, lifts aren't socially acceptable, but most people won't know you wear any + they're fairly easy), even if they require dedication
But on top of that:
skin bleaching, extensive invasive surgeries, experimental drugs, using lasers to change eye colors, autistically calculating your facial ratios, analyzing your phenotype and looking to fraud an ideal pheno, potentially risking your ability to ever walk again for 2-3 inches of extra height, lycopene and similar supplements for skin coloring, potentially roiding or getting on T, fin and other drugs to prevent hair loss, all this, for what? to get more girls? to fit an aesthetic ideal? mental illness
Sure, a small proportion of the sites users will get the surgeries. A lot won't even leanmaxx or improve their skin. The uglier ones will probably eventually just rot and remain incel, while the good looking ones will move on and have a normal life. Maybe some mentally ill gl guys like anstrum will rot forever. But still, it's really hilarious to think about all the efforts we go through.
This makes me sort of understand the transmaxxing pipeline tbh, looksmaxxers are literally just trannies but in the opposite direction

 

[HarrierDuBois]

All lefort is cope. Imagine busting your skull open to get a chance for some pussy lmfao

The surgery is first hand medical.

 

[thecel]

all this, for what? to get more girls? to fit an aesthetic ideal?

Attractive people get treated better in so many ways outside of the dating market. If you look like O’Pry you already won at life. The world is your oyster.

So strange that a blackpiller who knows the immense importance of looks thinks looksmaxing is just for getting girls. Looksmaxing completely transforms lives.

 

[Deleted member 27014]

The surgery is first hand medical.

Getting it to be able to live is one thing, but going through that just for some becky that has been a cumdumpster 20 times to give you a chance to be #21 is just cucked

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Getting it to be able to live is one thing, but going through that just for some becky that has been a cumdumpster 20 times to give you a chance to be #21 is just cucked

Yeah but you can't even get the surgery done cosmetically since you need to have a bite problem to begin with.

 

[thecel]

Yeah but you can't even get the surgery done cosmetically since you need to have a bite problem to begin with.

How did PSLers get cosmetic Le Fort? Some members got cosmetic Le Fort 3 IIRC.

Bimax is available for cosmetics, and bimax is basically Le Fort 1 and BSSO combined.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

How did PSLers get cosmetic Le Fort? Some members got cosmetic Le Fort 3 IIRC.

Bimax is available for cosmetics, and bimax is basically Le Fort 1 and BSSO combined.

Think about it biomechanically, how do you move jaws with already a perfect bite to a different spot? It is not physically possible unless you want to make yourself a bimax patient.

 

[thecel]

Think about it biomechanically, how do you move jaws with already a perfect bite to a different spot?

Just move it forward. The patient goes in for a lower jaw advancement later. Bimax in 2 steps.

Or just advance the maxilla and allow the lower jaw to reposture forwards to meet the upper teeth. Takes pressure off the TMJ.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

I will get a modified oblique lefort 3

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Just move it forward. The patient goes in for a lower jaw advancement later. Bimax in 2 steps.

Perfect bite insuniates no signs of recession so to dogmaxx someone would be extremely dumb.

 

[thecel]

Perfect bite insuniates no signs of recession so to dogmaxx someone would be extremely dumb.

Counterexample: Asian.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Counterexample: Asian.

>Punched maxilla.
>No signs of recession

Pick one.

 

[thecel]

Perfect bite insuniates no signs of recession so to dogmaxx someone would be extremely dumb.

Dogmaxx is a giant cope. Your maxilla would need to get advanced very far ahead of a forward-grown position in order to dogmaxx it. Which no surgeons would do. Dogmax is like Barrett plus 20 mm.

 

[thecel]

>Punched maxilla.
>No signs of recession

Pick one.

You said perfect bite means no recession and advancement would dogmax the patient. Asians are a counterexample.

 

[HerpDerpson]

All lefort is cope. Imagine busting your skull open to get a chance for some pussy lmfao

Men also only care about your looks.

 

[thecel]

Men also only care about your looks.

I’m ugly and short, but my unlikeable contrarian personality ruins my life more than my looks and manletism do.

Personality matters so much that it’s not even funny

The STRENGTH that looks matter is greater than the STRENGTH that personalities matter. The NUMBER OF SITUATIONS in which personalities matter is greater than the NUMBER OF SITUATIONS in which looks matter. In situations in which people don’t see your face, like on Internet forums such as this...

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[HarrierDuBois]

You said perfect bite means no recession and advancement would dogmax the patient. Asians are a counterexample.

Touché. I had white people primarily in mind.

 

[thecel]

Touché. I had white people primarily in mind.

White people commonly have recessed lower maxillae and would aesthetically benefit from Le Fort 1:

The Ideal Mixed-Race Skull (Morph)

Below are 6 skulls. The top-left and top-right ones are Caucasoid skulls, the top-center and bottom-left ones are Sub-Saharan African skulls, and the bottom-center and bottom-right ones are subhuman (also known as East Asian) skulls. As you can observe, the East Asian craniums are remarkably...

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[HarrierDuBois]

White people commonly have recessed lower maxillae and would aesthetically benefit from Le Fort 1:

The Ideal Mixed-Race Skull (Morph)

Below are 6 skulls. The top-left and top-right ones are Caucasoid skulls, the top-center and bottom-left ones are Sub-Saharan African skulls, and the bottom-center and bottom-right ones are subhuman (also known as East Asian) skulls. As you can observe, the East Asian craniums are remarkably...

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I ain't reading that.

 

[HerpDerpson]

I’m ugly and short, but my unlikeable contrarian personality

People would have interpreted your personality traits as positive ones if you were good looking. Like "whoa, that guy doesn't go with the flow, he can think for himself".

 

[Deleted member 25667]

all this, for what? to get more girls? to fit an aesthetic ideal?

Retarded take. Even outside of the dating world, looks have an enormous impact on the quality of ones life

 

[User49]

do you even know what bimax is fam

Think about it biomechanically, how do you move jaws with already a perfect bite to a different spot? It is not physically possible unless you want to make yourself a bimax patient.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

do you even know what bimax is fam

Combination of BSSO and Lefort 1.

 

[User49]

Combination of BSSO and Lefort 1.

so why do u think u need a bite problem to do bimax?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

so why do u think u need a bite problem to do bimax?

Because the purpose of BSSO and Lefort 1 is to move the jaws so the teeth align perfectly and you open up the airways for proper posture and breathing. This can be done with pushing up or down the maxilla or rotating it cw or ccw as well as either pulling forward or backwards the mandible.

 

[User49]

Because the purpose of BSSO and Lefort 1 is to move the jaws so the teeth align perfectly and you open up the airways for proper posture and breathing. This can be done with pushing up or down the maxilla or rotating it cw or ccw as well as either pulling forward or backwards the mandible.

ur fucking retarded or a troll holy fuck

all ur takes are extremely low iq

 

[HarrierDuBois]

ur fucking retarded or a troll holy fuck

all ur takes are extremely low iq

I'm fairly sure the purpose of BiMax was to adjust bite and open airways. What is the purpose then?

 

[ropemax]

I'm fairly sure the purpose of BiMax was to adjust bite and open airways. What is the purpose then?

to get stacy

 

[HarrierDuBois]

to get stacy

Looking good is a side result of that.

 

[ropemax]

Looking good is a side result of that.

You have plenty of surgeons doing it just for aesthetics

 

[HarrierDuBois]

You have plenty of surgeons doing it just for aesthetics

If you need it there will be health benefits to it.

 

[NECK&VOICE]

All lefort is cope. Imagine busting your skull open to get a chance for some pussy lmfao

Bet big, win big.

 

[Pei]

Dogmaxx is a giant cope. Your maxilla would need to get advanced very far ahead of a forward-grown position in order to dogmaxx it. Which no surgeons would do. Dogmax is like Barrett plus 20 mm.