10% lean but not a lot of mass or 15% and mass

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

i think for my physique girls would appreciate a more bigger hunk with some visiblity of the abs but not lean and small

 

[Phillybeard1996]

15 percent is pretty lean also but not shredded

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

15 percent is pretty lean also but not shredded

Yeah i dont wanna look too gaunt either so i cant have normal testserone levels and not lower ones when i get below 11% body fat

 

[Orc]

I was getting more attention when I was 15% bodyfat, but then again it's not warm yet outside and you do look fuller in clothing at higher bodyfat.

 

[anoncell]

that 10% range just makes me look good without a top or having to wear really tight clothes to get compliments, while when I'm 15+ I get compliments in hoodies and normal t-shirts, you also notice people move out of your way and give you more respect while when I'm watered down from cutting I don't look as intimidating or get iois from foids unless im topless

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

I was getting more attention when I was 15% bodyfat, but then again it's not warm yet outside and you do look fuller in clothing at higher bodyfat.

10% dude won in clothes and had some wins without clothes too but broad shoulders was main attracting point brutal frame pill lol

 

[beypazarisoda0]

for JB appeal - 10% lean

For girls over 22 - 15% mass

15% bf is lean enough tbh

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

for JB appeal - 10% lean

For girls over 22 - 15% mass

15% bf is lean enough tbh

Ill just be 13% lean then to get best of both world’s

 

[Orc]

10% dude won in clothes and had some wins without clothes too but broad shoulders was main attracting point brutal frame pill lol

hilariously inaccurate scaling.

I stay lower bodyfat because my skin is healthier when I do so + it's easier to move around especially at work if you're lighter, since I'm a climber.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

hilariously inaccurate scaling.

I stay lower bodyfat because my skin is healthier when I do so + it's easier to move around especially at work if you're lighter, since I'm a climber.

So 10% is perfect ?

 

[SoundnVision]

You need to be lean like 82 Jagger

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

You need to be lean like 82 Jagger View attachment 2114662

Wtf…

 

[ValhallaSoldier]

It depends on what you look like, if you still look good with 15 ok. I

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

It depends on what you look like, if you still look good with 15 ok. I

I see…

 

[Deleted member 19294]

Ideally you want muscle mass and low bf. I'd say bulk up to 15 then cut

 

[SoundnVision]

Wtf…

Wtf boy

 

[longjohnmong]

too general of a question

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Ideally you want muscle mass and low bf. I'd say bulk up to 15 then cut

I see….. first two yrs of natty training you dont need to bulk right ? And u can just maintain caloric intake

 

[Deleted member 19294]

I see….. first two yrs of natty training you dont need to bulk right ? And u can just maintain caloric intake

If you're starting out as skinny fat, I'd do a cut first then lean bulk

 

[Orc]

So 10% is perfect ?

might be too low, the 10% in that is more like 13-14% and the 5% is 10%.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

might be too low, the 10% in that is more like 13-14% and the 5% is 10%.

I see so the scaling is incorrect in that korean video by 3-4% interesting….

 

[Orc]

I see so the scaling is incorrect in that korean video by 3-4% interesting….

also how any percentage looks varies throughout the day, 15% looks quite lean in the morning before you've got any bloating from food.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

also how any percentage looks varies throughout the day, 15% looks quite lean in the morning before you've got any bloating from food.

I got a question once you reach 183cm tall (6ft) in height it’s all about frame,muscle size,insertions and face right ?

 

[Orc]

I got a question once you reach 183cm tall (6ft) in height it’s all about frame,muscle size,insertions and face right ?

insertions aren't that important most people don't really notice if your abs are misaligned or your chest gap is too wide, frame mostly gives you presence from a distance, since your facial features aren't that clear if you're standing only a few meters away already, but wide shoulders still look wide from half a football field away.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

insertions aren't that important most people don't really notice if your abs are misaligned or your chest gap is too wide, frame mostly gives you presence from a distance, since your facial features aren't that clear if you're standing only a few meters away already, but wide shoulders still look wide from half a football field away.

I see…

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

insertions aren't that important most people don't really notice if your abs are misaligned or your chest gap is too wide, frame mostly gives you presence from a distance, since your facial features aren't that clear if you're standing only a few meters away already, but wide shoulders still look wide from half a football field away.

Is a 2 inch height difference considered a mog ? What if the 2 inch shorter guy has wider frame and larger bones

 

[Orc]

Is a 2 inch height difference considered a mog ? What if the 2 inch shorter guy has wider frame and larger bones

most people can't estimate measurements accurately and can't tell the difference.

 

[Blackgymmax]

might be too low, the 10% in that is more like 13-14% and the 5% is 10%.

Quite literally lol

 

[Aetheling]

Ideally you want natural genetic limit mass and be around 12%, you can never be too big as a natty and that mass is sufficient at attracting most women, roids aren’t necessary provided your genetics aren’t utter trash. Sounds like you should probably run a bulk and gain a bit more muscle then cut down to 12%, you can still look big at that BF% if you have enough muscle.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Ideally you want natural genetic limit mass and be around 12%, you can never be too big as a natty and that mass is sufficient at attracting most women, roids aren’t necessary provided your genetics aren’t utter trash. Sounds like you should probably run a bulk and gain a bit more muscle then cut down to 12%, you can still look big at that BF% if you have enough muscle.

Already watched greg’a vid of natural limit gains. I dont mind waiting 5 year’s to achieve my near 100% maxxed phyisuqe tbh

 

[Aetheling]

Already watched greg’a vid of natural limit gains. I dont mind waiting 5 year’s to achieve my near 100% maxxed phyisuqe tbh

How old are you? I’d just get bigger but dont venture too far from 15% otherwise you start looking bloated past 17%, for me anyway

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

How old are you? I’d just get bigger but dont venture too far from 15% otherwise you start looking bloated past 17%, for me anyway

16 years old turning 17 this year

 

[Aetheling]

16 years old turning 17 this year

Yeah you’re still young and have started the gym at a good age so well done, focus on getting bigger if you don’t have at least intermediate level muscle mass and strength. Reap the rewards in your 20’s when you have a top percentile physique (provided you aren’t a manlet and your frame genetics are good).

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Yeah you’re still young and have started the gym at a good age so well done, focus on getting bigger if you don’t have at least intermediate level muscle mass and strength. Reap the rewards in your 20’s when you have a top percentile physique (provided you aren’t a manlet and your frame genetics are good).

over then im 171cm tall barefoot no physique for ur height

 

[Aetheling]

over then im 171cm tall barefoot no physique for ur height

You’re still young, eat a healthy diet and take your health seriously and you can still grow

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

You’re still young, eat a healthy diet and take your health seriously and you can still grow

Imma do Sprint's for HGH boost