12 vs 36 needles Dermapen for Hairloss treatment

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How many needles are better for Hairloss treatment?

Some Youtubers advice 36 needles over 12. But they don't give any evidence.

Routine:

1. 5% Minox twice a day
2. Dermapen every 10 days with 1,5mm needle length
 
show me medical studies, NOT some big media outlet saying that dermarolling MIGHT work for hairloss.
 
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How many needles are better for Hairloss treatment?

Some Youtubers advice 36 needles over 12. But they don't give any evidence.

Routine:

1. 5% Minox twice a day
2. Dermapen every 10 days with 1,5mm needle length
basic 3 go to stack for hairloss battling

minox
fina
needling

I use 36 needles on face.
 
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show me medical studies, NOT some big media outlet saying that dermarolling MIGHT work for hairloss.
there are numerous b/a photos, why should we stop trying ? it's a new process for hair.
so right now,fuck your studies
 
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there are numerous b/a photos, why should we stop trying ? it's a new process for hair.
so right now,fuck your studies

Dermarolling and dermapen selling point is somehow stimulating collagen by sticking ur skin and its layer with needles? It HAS NO scientific backup and there are several articles showing that collagen increase from dermarolling is slim to nonexistent. And even IF it boosts collagen a little, its will not directly guarantee hair regrowth.

And going off before and after photos is incredibly LOW IQ, these photos can be easily faked and u never know if the person has done
something else to their hair regimen other than dermarolling


OP should accept the blackpill that if ur genes determine u to lose ur hair,. save up for a fucking transplant or ogremaxx
 
show me medical studies, NOT some big media outlet saying that dermarolling MIGHT work for hairloss.

Minoxidil in combination with microneedling gives better results:





 
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Dermarolling and dermapen selling point is somehow stimulating collagen by sticking ur skin and its layer with needles? It HAS NO scientific backup and there are several articles showing that collagen increase from dermarolling is slim to nonexistent. And even IF it boosts collagen a little, its will not directly guarantee hair regrowth.

And going off before and after photos is incredibly LOW IQ, these photos can be easily faked and u never know if the person has done
something else to their hair regimen other than dermarolling


OP should accept the blackpill that if ur genes determine u to lose ur hair,. save up for a fucking transplant or ogremaxx
dead wrong jfl.

paper proving it stimulates and encourages collagen growth:


hair loss in particular, heres 2:



go ahead and keep being a low iq slave to your genetic destiny while i stave off the reaper hammer and nail you fucking retard.
 
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dead wrong jfl.

paper proving it stimulates and encourages collagen growth:


hair loss in particular, heres 2:



go ahead and keep being a low iq slave to your genetic destiny while i stave off the reaper hammer and nail you fucking retard.
KEEP STICKING UR HEAD WITH NEEDLES BECAUSE OF UR SODOMITE SUBPAR GENETICS.
THE ARTICLES U LISTED LITERALLY STATED TO CALL FOR FURTHER STUDIES TO DETERMINE THE EFFECTIVNESS OF THE DEVICE, 2ND U LOW IQ CUCK, MICRONEEDLING ONLY WORKS IN COMBINATION WITH OTHER HAIR LOSS DRUGS AND THE STUDIES OP SHOWED WAS COMPARNIG MINOXIDIL AGAINST NATURAL VITAMIN SOLUTIONS. MICRONEEDLING IS JUST AS PSEUDO SCIENTIFIC AS ARE SKIN CARE SERUMS THAT GIVE OUT EMPTY PRMOMISES WITHOUT RESULTS

kys balding cuck, a tattoo machine and minoxidil combo will work just aswell then
 
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KEEP STICKING UR HEAD WITH NEEDLES BECAUSE OF UR SODOMITE SUBPAR GENETICS.
THE ARTICLES U LISTED LITERALLY STATED TO CALL FOR FURTHER STUDIES TO DETERMINE THE EFFECTIVNESS OF THE DEVICE, 2ND U LOW IQ CUCK, MICRONEEDLING ONLY WORKS IN COMBINATION WITH OTHER HAIR LOSS DRUGS AND THE STUDIES OP SHOWED WAS COMPARNIG MINOXIDIL AGAINST NATURAL VITAMIN SOLUTIONS. MICRONEEDLING IS JUST AS PSEUDO SCIENTIFIC AS ARE SKIN CARE SERUMS THAT GIVE OUT EMPTY PRMOMISES WITHOUT RESULTS

kys balding cuck, a tattoo machine and minoxidil combo will work just aswell then
too bad even with my norwood i mog you to ganges and back you fucking obvious subhuman.

fact is that dermarolling is PROVEN to be more effective than topical solutions alone. you said there's no studies blah blah blah that it's effective at all. now you're shifting goalposts instead of just admitting you were wrong.

why can't you admit you were just wrong? I'll tell you why:

IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE AN OBVIOUS ANGRY FUCKING BIRDCEL SUBHUMAN ABUSED RAT THAT COPES WITH HIS MUH MUH NW0 WHILE HE HAS HUMMINGBIRD TIER BONES AND FACIAL STRUCTURE, JFL YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING MANLET SUBHUMAN TURBOTRASH GARABGE RECEPTACLE. YOU AND YOUR OPINIONS ARE WORTH LESS TO ME THAN A USED UP CUM RAG YOU FUCKING RECESSED RAT. KEEP NIBBLING ON THIS FUCKING WOOD YOU ABSOLUTE TERMITE. YOU ARE FUCKING GARBAGE THROUGH AND THROUGH, BOTH AS A MAN OF CHARACTER AND AS A HUMAN BEING - YOU ARE LITERALLY SUBHUMAN GENETIC FUCKING WASTE AND YOUR LOCATION SHOULD BE NUKED, AND THEN THE FALLOUT AFTER THAT NUKE SHOULD BE NUKED TO ENSURE THAT YOUR DISGUSTING GENETIC CODE MAY NEVER INTERACT WITH A HUMAN EVER AGAIN LEST OUR SPECIES BE CURSED TO DEVOLVE INTO CAVE DWELLING NEANDERTHALS ONCE MORE.
 
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too bad even with my norwood i mog you to ganges and back you fucking obvious subhuman.

fact is that dermarolling is PROVEN to be more effective than topical solutions alone. you said there's no studies blah blah blah that it's effective at all. now you're shifting goalposts instead of just admitting you were wrong.

why can't you admit you were just wrong? I'll tell you why:

IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE AN OBVIOUS ANGRY FUCKING BIRDCEL SUBHUMAN ABUSED RAT THAT COPES WITH HIS MUH MUH NW0 WHILE HE HAS HUMMINGBIRD TIER BONES AND FACIAL STRUCTURE, JFL YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING MANLET SUBHUMAN TURBOTRASH GARABGE RECEPTACLE. YOU AND YOUR OPINIONS ARE WORTH LESS TO ME THAN A USED UP CUM RAG YOU FUCKING RECESSED RAT. KEEP NIBBLING ON THIS FUCKING WOOD YOU ABSOLUTE TERMITE. YOU ARE FUCKING GARBAGE THROUGH AND THROUGH, BOTH AS A MAN OF CHARACTER AND AS A HUMAN BEING - YOU ARE LITERALLY SUBHUMAN GENETIC FUCKING WASTE AND YOUR LOCATION SHOULD BE NUKED, AND THEN THE FALLOUT AFTER THAT NUKE SHOULD BE NUKED TO ENSURE THAT YOUR DISGUSTING GENETIC CODE MAY NEVER INTERACT WITH A HUMAN EVER AGAIN LEST OUR SPECIES BE CURSED TO DEVOLVE INTO CAVE DWELLING NEANDERTHALS ONCE MORE.


just say ur bald and have to rely on pseudo scientific jew devices
 
just say ur bald and have to rely on pseudo scientific jew devices
whats your psl then? also since youre not balding what interest do you have here? why would anyone take advice from someone not balding?
 
whats your psl then? also since youre not balding what interest do you have here? why would anyone take advice from someone not balding?
PSL = is a meme and nobody uses the actual psl scale

since youre not balding what interest do you have here? = blackpilling people, since most users here are blue and redpilled and they dont even realize it. aka most redcels

why would anyone take advice from someone not balding? = i dont have subpar genes so icant have a say ?
 
then why the fuck you're here?
bitchass faggot pussy talks about "muh muh blackpills!11!111!!!" but undoubtedly knows he'd be ranked low psl wise so he uses the bluepill cope of "PSL IS JUST A MEME!!!!!!!!!!!"

literally him when he wrote that sentence:

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bitchass faggot pussy talks about "muh muh blackpills!11!111!!!" but undoubtedly knows he'd be ranked low psl wise so he uses the bluepill cope of "PSL IS JUST A MEME!!!!!!!!!!!"

literally him when he wrote that sentence:

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then why the fuck you're here?
both illiterate retards dont understand what i was saying. PSL is a shit rating system beacuse EVERYBODY has their own interpretation of it THUS making the system FLAWED. Everybody here rates diffrent making the "MUH PSL" completely USELESS.

I want both of u to show me a psl scale if u know what it even is :lul: oh wait, it doesnt exist and eveybody rates diffrent.
( showing a pic of a reddit made rating scale doest count)

kys
 
both illiterate retards dont understand what i was saying. PSL is a shit rating system beacuse EVERYBODY has their own interpretation of it THUS making the system FLAWED. Everybody here rates diffrent making the "MUH PSL" completely USELESS.

I want both of u to show me a psl scale if u know what it even is :lul: oh wait, it doesnt exist and eveybody rates diffrent.
( showing a pic of a reddit made rating scale doest count)

kys
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what's his psl ?
 
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both illiterate retards dont understand what i was saying. PSL is a shit rating system beacuse EVERYBODY has their own interpretation of it THUS making the system FLAWED. Everybody here rates diffrent making the "MUH PSL" completely USELESS.

I want both of u to show me a psl scale if u know what it even is :lul: oh wait, it doesnt exist and eveybody rates diffrent.
( showing a pic of a reddit made rating scale doest count)

kys
jfl kys retard. you can still get a rough feel for what your psl is by sending pics out to a few ppl or getting rated a few times on psl sites.

you know for a FACT you are coping HARD. sad.
 
both illiterate retards dont understand what i was saying. PSL is a shit rating system beacuse EVERYBODY has their own interpretation of it THUS making the system FLAWED. Everybody here rates diffrent making the "MUH PSL" completely USELESS.

I want both of u to show me a psl scale if u know what it even is :lul: oh wait, it doesnt exist and eveybody rates diffrent.
( showing a pic of a reddit made rating scale doest count)

kys
jfl kys retard. you can still get a rough feel for what your psl is by sending pics out to a few ppl or getting rated a few times on psl sites.

you know for a FACT you are coping HARD. sad.
stop arguing please unnecessary.
 
jfl kys retard. you can still get a rough feel for what your psl is by sending pics out to a few ppl or getting rated a few times on psl sites.

you know for a FACT you are coping HARD. sad.


i dont want truecels to give me A ROUGH FEEL of what is their perception of beauty.

Never touched a woman? = no say in aesthetics
 
give me the "psl" scale to base it off on
why you're acting like it's so complex to calculate psl ?
look attractive people.
some people carying the most attractive facial features at the same time and they have the highest points.
ratios + measurements + hair + collagen.
you have those, you have the points.
that's it.
 
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why you're acting like it's so complex to calculate psl ?
look attractive people.
some people carying the most attractive facial features at the same time and they have the highest points.
ratios + measurements + hair + collagen.
you have those, you have the points.
that's it.
okay then why make it complex? if its attractive its attractive

end of thread
 
okay then why make it complex? if its attractive its attractive

end of thread
how can you decide a male attractive, as a male ?
you don't even have the hormones and dna structure to understand what females find attractive.
so we follow adored famous people that find attractive by women and trying to create a database.
i think i'm attractive too but females don't think in that way much lol.

why you are acting like it's not logical about trying findin out what features attractive ?
 
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i dont want truecels to give me A ROUGH FEEL of what is their perception of beauty.

Never touched a woman? = no say in aesthetics
retard over her implying just because someone's not a male model slayer that they can't discern beauty. yet more evidence youre bluepilled. beauty is objective, hence blackpill.
 
how can you decide a male attractive, as a male ?
you don't even have the hormones and dna structure to understand what females find attractive.
so we follow adored famous people that find attractive by women and trying to create a database.
i think i'm attractive too but females don't think in that way much lol.

why you are acting like it's not logical about trying findin out what features attractive ?
it takes the human brain less than split of a second to see if someone is attractive or not. read into human perception of attractivness in neurology. Men and women do react diffrently, but everyone can say if someone is attractive or not, its BUILT in, babies determine attractivness and facial characteristics from the day they can properly see.
 
retard over her implying just because someone's not a male model slayer that they can't discern beauty. yet more evidence youre bluepilled. beauty is objective, hence blackpill.
never did is say beauty was subjective, ur point?
 
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it takes the human brain less than split of a second to see if someone is attractive or not. read into human perception of attractivness in neurology. Men and women do react diffrently, but everyone can say if someone is attractive or not, its BUILT in, babies determine attractivness and facial characteristics from the day they can properly see.
and it's not magic right ? so we can analyze to know better ? so what's the issue here?
 
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never did is say beauty was subjective, ur point?
so then you understand that pslers can rate you accurately and fairly on a scale that changes depending on how good looking you really are.
 
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so then you understand that pslers can rate you accurately and fairly on a scale that changes depending on how good looking you really are.
he's acting like a living cosmopolitan article.
he agree that beauty is objective but also there is no way you can measure.
he's semi-dumb. need time to comprehend blackpill lol
 
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so then you understand that pslers can rate you accurately and fairly on a scale that changes depending on how good looking you really are.
THEY SHOULDn't USE NUMBER SCALES. Giving people shit like a 4 out of 7 or a 3 out of 7 is FUCKING DUMB

Its either ugly, average or attractive. THATS IT. Numbers game is dumb in rating face
 
THEY SHOULDn't USE NUMBER SCALES. Giving people shit like a 4 out of 7 or a 3 out of 7 is FUCKING DUMB

Its either ugly, average or attractive. THATS IT. Numbers game is dumb in rating face
jfl at this.

so there is nooooooooooooo way to scale a person's beauty ?

Woww, it's magic.
we know they are attractive but there is no way we can know "how?" .
 
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he's acting like a living cosmopolitan article.
he agree that beauty is objective but also there is no way you can measure.
he's semi-dumb. need time to comprehend blackpill lol
he's extremely bluepilled and seems hellbent on demoralizing and discouraging people. just another looksminning retard greycel tbh
 
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he's extremely bluepilled and seems hellbent on demoralizing and discouraging people. just another looksminning retard greycel tbh
well, there are levels.

beauty is in the eye of the beholder -> yes beauty is objective but you cannot scaleee :soy: -> ok psl is real -> let me rope :feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy:
 
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well, there are levels.

beauty is in the eye of the beholder -> yes beauty is objective but you cannot scaleee :soy: -> ok psl is real -> let me rope :feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy:
nailed it
 
he's extremely bluepilled and seems hellbent on demoralizing and discouraging people. just another looksminning retard greycel tbh
HOLD on calling me bluepilled while giving people advice... JUST DERMAROLL IF UR BALDING like a fucking faggot.
Please choose a lane unless ur truly sodomized
 
HOLD on calling me bluepilled while giving people advice... JUST DERMAROLL IF UR BALDING like a fucking faggot.
Please choose a lane unless ur truly sodomized
where did i ever tell someone to "just" dermaroll? theres thread about hair loss protocols all over. nobody says "just" dermaroll, in fact nobody says dermaroll hairline at all, dermastamping it is far superior. but it's ALWAYS part of a routine including minox, keta, vit c, astaxanthin, ha, and even fin if they need it. kys.
 
where did i ever tell someone to "just" dermaroll? theres thread about hair loss protocols all over. nobody says "just" dermaroll, in fact nobody says dermaroll hairline at all, dermastamping it is far superior. but it's ALWAYS part of a routine including minox, keta, vit c, astaxanthin, ha, and even fin if they need it. kys.
a blackpilled response would have been to get money for a hair transplant.

But ur bluepilled mind is thinking that THESE PRODUCTS MAY RESTORE MY HAIR AND IN PROCESS :soy::bluepill::feelsuhh:


just use a thousand diffrent products theory :feelsuhh:

good consoomer cuck
 
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a blackpilled response would have been to get money for a hair transplant.

But ur bluepilled mind is thinking that THESE PRODUCTS MAY RESTORE MY HAIR AND IN PROCESS :soy::bluepill::feelsuhh:


just use a thousand diffrent products theory :feelsuhh:

good consoomer cuck
STARTLINGLY low iq.

HAIRTRANSPLANT IS NOT PERMANENT.

your hairline will reverse without the use of products that the doctor prescribes you afterwards, primarily fin and minoxidil.

shows just how little you know, you fucking retard.

MUH MUH MUH HAIR TRANSPLANT -> BLUEPILL!

muh muh muh thousand productssss!!!!!!!!!!! :feelswhy: :feelswhy: :feelswhy: :feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh: -> oh no, you actually have to put in effort to save your looks! god forbid something worth doing isn't easy! pussy loser mindset.

in the meantime, doing a solid hair routine is good to stave it off before it even starts for quite a while.
 
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a blackpilled response would have been to get money for a hair transplant.

But ur bluepilled mind is thinking that THESE PRODUCTS MAY RESTORE MY HAIR AND IN PROCESS :soy::bluepill::feelsuhh:


just use a thousand diffrent products theory :feelsuhh:

good consoomer cuck
i agree that ht is compulsory if you have lost so much but even PRP alone make wonders, i've witnessed that.
so stop being so pesimistic.
 
STARTLINGLY low iq.

HAIRTRANSPLANT IS NOT PERMANENT.

your hairline will reverse without the use of products that the doctor prescribes you afterwards, primarily fin and minoxidil.

shows just how little you know, you fucking retard.

MUH MUH MUH HAIR TRANSPLANT -> BLUEPILL!

muh muh muh thousand productssss!!!!!!!!!!! :feelswhy: :feelswhy: :feelswhy: :feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh: -> oh no, you actually have to put in effort to save your looks! god forbid something worth doing isn't easy! pussy loser mindset.

in the meantime, doing a solid hair routine is good to stave it off before it even starts for quite a while.

> CLAIMS TO BE BLACKPILLED

> A SOLID HAIR ROUTINE WILL "HOLD BACK" SOMETHING THATS CANNOT BE STOPPED IN CASE OF MPB

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> CLAIMS TO BE BLACKPILLED

> A SOLID HAIR ROUTINE WILL "HOLD BACK" SOMETHING THATS CANNOT BE STOPPED IN CASE OF MPB

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just ignore what i said about hair transplants you retard. im the one who's studied all this shit while you rot as a khhv.
 
both are shit greycel
 
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just ignore what i said about hair transplants you retard. im the one who's studied all this shit while you rot as a khhv.
u HAD to study them because u know ur supbar frog genetics will at one point cause norwood reaper to rape u.

ALSO U GETTING UR DICK WET OUT OF PURE LUCK BY A HEROINE ADDICT ROASTIE DOES NOT COUNT AS A SLAY
 
u HAD to study them because u know ur supbar frog genetics will at one point cause norwood reaper to rape u.

ALSO U GETTING UR DICK WET OUT OF PURE LUCK BY A HEROINE ADDICT ROASTIE DOES NOT COUNT AS A SLAY
bruh tbh i dont even know if i ever even had norwooding, im just preventing my high hairline from getting possible worse.

anyway i definitely slay and definitely mog you. we could have our pics sent to an unbiased 3rd party if you want to settle this. or have someone get your psl and ill tell you my average psl + height + bideltoid.
 
bruh tbh i dont even know if i ever even had norwooding, im just preventing my high hairline from getting possible worse.

anyway i definitely slay and definitely mog you. we could have our pics sent to an unbiased 3rd party if you want to settle this. or have someone get your psl and ill tell you my average psl + height + bideltoid.
> UUHH IM NOT EVEN BALDING

> HOURS OF RESEARCH INTO MALE PATTERN BALDNESS

also we could have our pics sent to an unbiased 3rd party if you want to settle this. or have someone get your psl and ill tell you my average psl + height + bideltoid. :feelsuhh: :feelsgood: :soy:



 
> UUHH IM NOT EVEN BALDING

> HOURS OF RESEARCH INTO MALE PATTERN BALDNESS

also we could have our pics sent to an unbiased 3rd party if you want to settle this. or have someone get your psl and ill tell you my average psl + height + bideltoid. :feelsuhh: :feelsgood: :soy:

>>but but i dont wanna be judged facially and reveal what a subhuman i am!!! so ill just mock him instead!!!!
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