16, is it over or is there hope?

[erwin.]

turning seventeen in two months, please be srs

 

[erwin.]

bump

 

[Qhrack]

nah its not over your like HLTN rn

 

[ASCENSCI0N]

Do hair, get skincare, fix posture, lymphatic drainage exercise, go to the gym, raise hyoid = HTN

 

[ASCENSCI0N]

nah its not over your like HLTN rn

definitely higher than HLTN, blue eyes, blonde, good facial structure, only thing that nerfs is his nose and his work ethic

 

[Qhrack]

definitely higher than HLTN, blue eyes, blonde, good facial structure, only thing that nerfs is his nose and his work ethic

Eh probably like MTN, he has 0 jawline

 

[Qhrack]

Eh probably like MTN, he has 0 jawline

0 jawline definiton*

 

[ASCENSCI0N]

0 jawline definiton*

its a failo that could be fixed pretty easily

 

[Deleted member 104531]

I'll fucking rape ur mother fakecel

 

[Panzram]

turning seventeen in two months, please be srs

MTN you are good, nothing to despair over. You are young and your features will get stronger and sharper with age. Gymmaxx and eat meat so your test is high and you will be good.

 

[erwin.]

I'll fucking rape ur mother fakecel

what

 

[erwin.]

Do hair, get skincare, fix posture, lymphatic drainage exercise, go to the gym, raise hyoid = HTN

damn, well i have no idea what to do with my hair, i‘m really just working out at home and trying to raise my hyoid bone by neck tucks (will hopefully work) and i lowk have to look into lymphatic drainage to know what to do. thanks tho helped a lot

 

[erwin.]

MTN you are good, nothing to despair over. You are young and your features will get stronger and sharper with age. Gymmaxx and eat meat so your test is high and you will be good.

thanks brother

 

[Jack8841]

what

roundabout way to say you don’t need to looksmaxx and you look fine, personally i think you could work on jaw definition and maxilla near the eye area, you don’t have a huge nose you are just missing a maxilla so you look like you do

 

[Jack8841]

thanks brother

do you have an overbite perhaps? or some other bite issue

 

[ExMisanthropy]

turning seventeen in two months, please be srs

MTN, just live like a NT and you should be fine. Most teens nowadays are LTN average

 

[Jack8841]

MTN, just live like a NT and you should be fine. Most teens nowadays are LTN average

false, depends on where you live tbh. if you live in a rich area the people are more attractive because they have either had work done or are the kids of models / attractive people that got w rich people

 

[ExMisanthropy]

false, depends on where you live tbh. if you live in a rich area the people are more attractive because they have either had work done or are the kids of models / attractive people that got w rich people

im saying on average, of course their is exception.

 

[erwin.]

roundabout way to say you don’t need to looksmaxx and you look fine, personally i think you could work on jaw definition and maxilla near the eye area, you don’t have a huge nose you are just missing a maxilla so you look like you do

I have been told that I need to max out my maxilla as much as possible but I can‘t think of any other way than testmaxing

 

[Jack8841]

im saying on average, of course their is exception.

i still think most teens are mtn, its average. ltn is below average

 

[erwin.]

im saying on average, of course their is exception.

there sadly is in germany, i would say most people my age are hmtn-lhtn

 

[Jack8841]

I have been told that I need to max out my maxilla as much as possible but I can‘t think of any other way than testmaxing

surgery… also consider thumbpulling but i’m not 100% sure

 

[ExMisanthropy]

surgery… also consider thumbpulling but i’m not 100% sure

thumbpulling is cope

 

[erwin.]

do you have an overbite perhaps? or some other bite issue

slight overbite due to braces, they fucked me up real good

 

[Jack8841]

there sadly is in germany, i would say most people my age are hmtn-lhtn

yeah germans generally have good jaws and ratios, thank my dad for my ratios, sadly my mom is 5 foot 1 ;(

 

[ExMisanthropy]

surgery… also consider thumbpulling but i’m not 100% sure

 

[Jack8841]

thumbpulling is cope

it depends, if you expect huge upper maxilla gains it is, lower maxilla is possible though. it’s possible it gives you the same benefits as a palatal expander

 

[flatcheck213]

Do hair, get skincare, fix posture, lymphatic drainage exercise, go to the gym, raise hyoid = HTN

Strongly disagree about HTN

 

[Squidwardmaxx]

Exposé!

 

[erwin.]

yeah germans generally have good jaws and ratios, thank my dad for my ratios, sadly my mom is 5 foot 1 ;(

yea heightpill is really brutal, germany is really unfair because i‘m 5‘8 and considered short asf because nearly everybody around me ranges from 1.80-90

 

[mikeperry271]

a good lip lift will majorly change your face in a good way

 

[ExMisanthropy]

yea heightpill is really brutal, germany is really unfair because i‘m 5‘8 and considered short asf because nearly everybody around me ranges from 1.80-90

5'8 is short universial (hypergamy)

 

[Jack8841]

slight overbite due to braces, they fucked me up real good

hmm, i’d go to an ortho and ask for that to be fixed. orthos usually fix overbites not cause them

 

[erwin.]

Strongly disagree about HTN

elobrate please

a good lip lift will majorly change your face in a good way

is that surgery?

 

[Jack8841]

elobrate please

is that surgery?

yes that is surgery, and it would do you well. are you still in puberty at all?

 

[mikeperry271]

elobrate please

is that surgery?

yes, but it's soft tissue surgery, so you will recover quite quickly
only downside of a lip lift is the scar, but you can hide this quite well
However, I think you should seriously consider this as your lips are a major fail

 

[erwin.]

yes that is surgery, and it would do you well. are you still in puberty at all?

yea if i‘m being honest i think that it hasn‘t even really started for me

 

[erwin.]

yes, but it's soft tissue surgery, so you will recover quite quickly
only downside of a lip lift is the scar, but you can hide this quite well
However, I think you should seriously consider this as your lips are a major fail

i’ve noticed that my lips are trash and i‘ll consider getting it when i‘m older

 

[Jack8841]

yea if i‘m being honest i think that it hasn‘t even really started for me

it has started. no doubt. can you spew goo?

 

[Deleted member 81171]

Do hair, get skincare, fix posture, lymphatic drainage exercise, go to the gym, raise hyoid = HTN

''htn'' they're giving that to anybody nowadays. softmaxxed this dude's low mtn-mtn maybe higher when he's fully developed

 

[Jack8841]

''htn'' they're giving that to anybody nowadays. softmaxxed this dude's low mtn-mtn maybe higher when he's fully developed

he has a great eye area, perhaps if his maxilla develops more and he fixed his mouth area + gets a more defined jawline through puberty which is very much possible he could be htn

 

[erwin.]

it has started. no doubt. can you spew goo?

what even is that?

 

[flatcheck213]

elobrate please

is that surgery?

HTN is like top 5%, you can’t reach just with softmaxing, but maybe it’s just a rating inconsistency

 

[Jack8841]

what even is that?

can you cum

 

[erwin.]

can you cum

of course

 

[Jack8841]

HTN is like top 5%, you can’t reach just with softmaxing, but maybe it’s just a rating inconsistency

he says hes barely started puberty, if he testmaxxes it’s possible, crazier things have happened

 

[Jack8841]

of course

when did you start being able to

 

[Deleted member 81171]

he has a great eye area,

disagree , its average

perhaps if his maxilla develops more and he fixed his mouth area + gets a more defined jawline through puberty

hes 16, i dont think puberty will be saving him that much. no hate to the guy but he has crooked nose and no browridge to cover it up. plus most people with a lip area like this it wont just suddenly ''fix itself'' lol

which is very much possible he could be htn

no, htn is 1 in 20 people. I see this dude 1/2

 

[erwin.]

HTN is like top 5%, you can’t reach just with softmaxing, but maybe it’s just a rating inconsistency

i just think the rating system in itself is inconsistent, it makes no sense to not be htn when looking better than the average person which many people on here do and yet they are still called mmtn etc

 

[erwin.]

when did you start being able to

first tried at like 12/13 and worked