16 yo cycle

[luzoxq]

Thoughts on the stack that I'm thinking about starting soon. Age 16 turning 17 (still trying to get some height,dont rly think its possible tho)
HGH 6iu/day
Aromasin 6.25mg EOD
Test E 250mg/week (250mg weekly for 4 weeks and 300mg for another 4-6 weeks)
HCG 250 iu 3x/week

PCT: After cycle
First 2 weeks Enclomiphene 15-25mg/day
Then lower it to for 12.5mg for 2 weeks
Lastly 6.25mg for the 2 weeks remaining

Any advice/change that I should do or things to look out for will be greatly appreciated.
Note: Should I take HCG from the start or after the last injection for 250iu 3x a week for 2 weeks and should I up the aromasin and HGH dose?

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

Run 500 test a week with daily injections and add something like anavar or a non estrogenic roid, good starting cycle

Increase hgh dose 7-8iu
Increase aromisin dose 12.5mgs
Don’t needa start hcg from the start can wait 3-4 weeks before first injection

 

[Pharmascension]

keep the test low at 200-300 dont run anything over that, dont do roids if you plan to pct, hcg is not needed and you can build a tolerance so only use it if you are trying to impregnate a bitch, aromatise inhibitors arent needed for those doses you will crush your e2 and if it is for height they cant reduce localized e2 in skeletal frame so it is pointless, I would add in a oral for the cycle and then as much hgh as you can afford.

 

[luzoxq]

Run 500 test a week with daily injections and add something like anavar or a non estrogenic roid, good starting cycle

Increase hgh dose 7-8iu
Increase aromisin dose 12.5mgs
Don’t needa start hcg from the start can wait 3-4 weeks before first injection

i will up the hgh to 7iu after the first two weeks,the test and aromasin are a little overkill for my first cycle no?

keep the test low at 200-300 dont run anything over that, dont do roids if you plan to pct, hcg is not needed and you can build a tolerance so only use it if you are trying to impregnate a bitch, aromatise inhibitors arent needed for those doses you will crush your e2 and if it is for height they cant reduce localized e2 in skeletal frame so it is pointless, I would add in a oral for the cycle and then as much hgh as you can afford.

why should I not do roids? Im looking to keep my fertility due to wanting kids in the future, the AI is for height too, its better than nothing, main reason im using AI is for my clavicular growth plates cause I have narrow clavicles. I also thought about an oral but I need recommendations

 

[Pharmascension]

If you run high dose test anytime it is stupid because more anabolic compounds are way better but second of all READ WHAT I SAID YOU CANNOT REDUCE SKELETAL E2 SO USING A AI IS WORTHLESS. the only way to ensure you arent aromatising like crazy and get the most out of growth is low dose test pinned daily. it is not better then nothing to pct it is the biggest waste of time possible. your fertility is fine AGAIN READ WHAT I SAID you will lose sensitivity to hcg if you run it year round and if you use it just while you are trying to impregnate a girl it will work even more effectively.

 

[Pharmascension]

for orals it depends on your goals, for bulking anadrol is def the best, if you wanna look leaner and keep muscle while losing fat anavar for sure, and if you want a combo of the 2 then just take superdrol. those are the only orals id look at for a first cycle, the rest have too many other variables to them.

 

[luzoxq]

If you run high dose test anytime it is stupid because more anabolic compounds are way better but second of all READ WHAT I SAID YOU CANNOT REDUCE SKELETAL E2 SO USING A AI IS WORTHLESS. the only way to ensure you arent aromatising like crazy and get the most out of growth is low dose test pinned daily. it is not better then nothing to pct it is the biggest waste of time possible. your fertility is fine AGAIN READ WHAT I SAID you will lose sensitivity to hcg if you run it year round and if you use it just while you are trying to impregnate a girl it will work even more effectively.

yea aromasin is gonna do more harm than good on that dose of test but 200mg weekly for how long? i didnt plan for my cycle to be longer than 3 months. forget about the pct ur correct but for the hcg i planned to use it for the entire cycle but now after doing some more research and thinking about it, it wouldnt be more than 2 weeks. also what dosage of anavar weekly,20mg?

 

[Zagro]

if it is for height they cant reduce localized e2 in skeletal frame so it is pointless

Cool guy but why did you pull this info out of your ass

 

[luzoxq]

Cool guy but why did you pull this info out of your ass

lmaoo,wdym

 

[vvd]

anything but tren

 

[luzoxq]

anything but tren

yes

 

[Pharmascension]

Cool guy but why did you pull this info out of your ass

i did not do some research for yourself

 

[Pharmascension]

yea aromasin is gonna do more harm than good on that dose of test but 200mg weekly for how long? i didnt plan for my cycle to be longer than 3 months. forget about the pct ur correct but for the hcg i planned to use it for the entire cycle but now after doing some more research and thinking about it, it wouldnt be more than 2 weeks. also what dosage of anavar weekly,20mg?

up to 50 daily just run ezetimibe with it so your lipids stay good, liver is not really effected by anavar

 

[Pharmascension]

yes

I ran tren my first cycle it is truly nectar of the gods

 

[ijustwannaascendlol]

Run 500 test a week with daily injections and add something like anavar or a non estrogenic roid, good starting cycle

Increase hgh dose 7-8iu
Increase aromisin dose 12.5mgs
Don’t needa start hcg from the start can wait 3-4 weeks before first injection

That's a fucking pro bodybuilder cycle, what the fuck are you recommending to kids?

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

That's a fucking pro bodybuilder cycle, what the fuck are you recommending to kids?

Explain how? There is no serious mass gaining roids, test is necessary, var is just a very safe intro oral/roid and not enough context was provided but 7-8 ius of hgh is a good and reasonable amount, don’t think this kid needs his e2 levels through the roof so 12.5mg of aromisin is very fair

 

[Zagro]

i did not do some research for yourself

Didn't know you were retarded, it only increases if systemic E2 is amplified = keep serum E2 stable/ideal = normal local aromatisation

 

[Pharmascension]

Didn't know you were retarded, it only increases if systemic E2 is amplified = keep serum E2 stable/ideal = normal local aromatisation

if you run 500 test it would be amplified... Didn't know you were illiterate

 

[Zagro]

if you run 500 test it would be amplified... Didn't know you were illiterate

Did you read it fucking retarded nigger

Keep systemic E2 stable and your local E2 wont budge a bit you fucking idiot, talking about research as if you do it yourself

 

[Pharmascension]

Did you read it fucking retarded nigger

Keep systemic E2 stable and your local E2 wont budge a bit you fucking idiot, talking about research as if you do it yourself

that is absolutely not true, unless you crushed your systematic estrogen to hell it would not stop increase localized e2 with a high dose of testesterone, the only possible scenario where that could even be true what you are explaining would be if you bound up the AR with dht or synthetic 5a reduced compounds allowing it to dominate and suppress aromatase. especially in younger men you have upregulated localized estrogen feeding to your growth plates in the first place. if you are running high dose test while trying to grow it is nearly impossible not to accelerate growth plate closure and suppress upregulated skeletal e2 unless you crush your estrogen completely which is terrible.

 

[Pharmascension]

that is absolutely not true, unless you crushed your systematic estrogen to hell it would not stop increase localized e2 with a high dose of testesterone, the only possible scenario where that could even be true what you are explaining would be if you bound up the AR with dht or synthetic 5a reduced compounds allowing it to dominate and suppress aromatase. especially in younger men you have upregulated localized estrogen feeding to your growth plates in the first place. if you are running high dose test while trying to grow it is nearly impossible not to accelerate growth plate closure and suppress upregulated skeletal e2 unless you crush your estrogen completely which is terrible.

why even deal with estrogen management in the first place when you can pin low dose test daily which feeds a small enough spike of test to not aromatize as much as you would in your own body even and use non aromatizable compounds so you don't have to worry at all.

 

[SA889]

why even deal with estrogen management in the first place when you can pin low dose test daily which feeds a small enough spike of test to not aromatize as much as you would in your own body even and use non aromatizable compounds so you don't have to worry at all.

is also subq okay if i only do 175 - 225 mg test c a week? or should i go for im daily

 

[Pharmascension]

is also subq okay if i only do 175 - 225 mg test c a week? or should i go for im daily

subq for oils is not great it is better then nothing but absorption is slow af which makes it less predictable and can leave permanent lumps wherever you inject.

 

[Zagro]

why even deal with estrogen management in the first place when you can pin low dose test daily which feeds a small enough spike of test to not aromatize as much as you would in your own body even and use non aromatizable compounds so you don't have to worry at all.

Most non-aromatisable ones are shit because locally synthesized DHT is 40 fold more potent and i believe testosterone in specific has way more benefits for periosteal bone that cant be compared to already 5a-reductased aromatisable compounds

I don’t believe the local E2 would be changed much honestly with something like letrozole to keep e2 in range, kinda hard to estimate tho

 

[Sayan.xdd]

Most non-aromatisable ones are shit because locally synthesized DHT is 40 fold more potent and i believe testosterone in specific has way more benefits for periosteal bone that cant be compared to already 5a-reductased aromatisable compounds

I don’t believe the local E2 would be changed much honestly with something like letrozole to keep e2 in range, kinda hard to estimate tho

would it be worth it to add anavar in heightmaxxing cycle? or is it a waste of money. i cant run hgh. im planning on taking test and letro

 

[Zagro]

would it be worth it to add anavar in heightmaxxing cycle? or is it a waste of money. i cant run hgh. im planning on taking test and letro

Not really anavar is very mild but if you have no other substitutes it can be decent as an androgen it’s very safe

 

[Sayan.xdd]

Not really anavar is very mild but if you have no other substitutes it can be decent as an androgen it’s very safe

okay and would u recommend anything instead of anavar?