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[PSLbbc]

I get why people like @Chromosome-X and @Outlander push back so hard. They talk about how sex creates life, mirrors the birth of stars, recharges dopamine, fixes your psyche, and keeps humanity going. To them that’s proof life has meaning. But I’m not arguing about whether those things feel good or work biologically. I’m asking something bigger does any of it actually carry real, objective meaning?
Biology shows why I crave sex or why suffering hits so deep when I don’t get it. Society explains why virgins get mocked and Chads get worshipped. But none of that answers why any of it should matter in the grand scheme. Pleasure is just brain chemicals. Creation is just more temporary stuff piling up before it all fades into nothing. There’s no cosmic rule saying any of this is inherently good.
That’s why my view doesn’t force me to rope. If nothing has built-in value, then ending it isn’t more “rational” than keeping going. The instinct to stay alive isn’t hope, it’s just the machine refusing to turn off. I’m not falling apart in despair. I’m just seeing things clearly, without the usual comforting stories about legacy or true love.
Sex-based value only exists because a conscious being is there to feel it. If consciousness is just a random in an indifferent universe, feeding its cravings doesn’t make the whole thing meaningful.

 

[PSLbbc]

 

[nestivv]

I see @PSLbbc thread, I rep

 

[Societal Reject]

Cute avi

 

[PSLbbc]

I see @PSLbbc thread, I rep

Thanks brah

 

[PSLbbc]

Cute avi

 

[psltristan1]

Y

 

[PSLbbc]

Y

high iq

 

[Chromosome-X]

I get why people like @Chromosome-X and @Outlander push back so hard. They talk about how sex creates life, mirrors the birth of stars, recharges dopamine, fixes your psyche, and keeps humanity going. To them that’s proof life has meaning. But I’m not arguing about whether those things feel good or work biologically. I’m asking something bigger does any of it actually carry real, objective meaning?
Biology shows why I crave sex or why suffering hits so deep when I don’t get it. Society explains why virgins get mocked and Chads get worshipped. But none of that answers why any of it should matter in the grand scheme. Pleasure is just brain chemicals. Creation is just more temporary stuff piling up before it all fades into nothing. There’s no cosmic rule saying any of this is inherently good.
That’s why my view doesn’t force me to rope. If nothing has built-in value, then ending it isn’t more “rational” than keeping going. The instinct to stay alive isn’t hope, it’s just the machine refusing to turn off. I’m not falling apart in despair. I’m just seeing things clearly, without the usual comforting stories about legacy or true love.
Sex-based value only exists because a conscious being is there to feel it. If consciousness is just a random in an indifferent universe, feeding its cravings doesn’t make the whole thing meaningful.

I think we both agree on more than you might think, I also dont believe life has inherent meaning. But you havent contradicted any of my points really, I actually agree with you. You say theres no objective meaning, but it doesnt matter thats the point. What matters is subjective meaning, because you and I are alive right now and that is something that we GIVE value to. Theres no objective value to it, but our perceptions force us to give it value. So the objective vs personal value thing is a false dichotomy. One is not better than the other. But for most people, life have value because they give it value. Snd for people this value comes from sex. Not god, or anything remotely parading as being objective. Finding objective truth is impossible and useless.
And when you said theres no cosmic rule saying this is good. Youre right, but theres no good or wrong, theyre abstractions created for us to survive. Morality is subjective. Theres just 'lawful' or 'unlawful' meaning something which follows its designed path or not. So when you dont have sex or lack human contact, youre not following the lawful path of your biology, which is why you suffer.
I think that your views are a cope in a way, for the fact that there are people like chads who have sex, never have to worry about an objective meaning but they live their lives either way. To them, life has value and its sex.If you told them life is meaningless theyd just laugh at you and say 'no YOUR life is meaningless'.

 

[PSLbbc]

I think we both agree on more than you might think, I also dont believe life has inherent meaning. But you havent contradicted any of my points really, I actually agree with you. You say theres no objective meaning, but it doesnt matter thats the point. What matters is subjective meaning, because you and I are alive right now and that is something that we GIVE value to. Theres no objective value to it, but our perceptions force us to give it value. So the objective vs personal value thing is a false dichotomy. One is not better than the other. But for most people, life have value because they give it value. Snd for people this value comes from sex. Not god, or anything remotely parading as being objective. Finding objective truth is impossible and useless.
And when you said theres no cosmic rule saying this is good. Youre right, but theres no good or wrong, theyre abstractions created for us to survive. Morality is subjective. Theres just 'lawful' or 'unlawful' meaning something which follows its designed path or not. So when you dont have sex or lack human contact, youre not following the lawful path of your biology, which is why you suffer.
I think that your views are a cope in a way, for the fact that there are people like chads who have sex, never have to worry about an objective meaning but they live their lives either way. To them, life has value and its sex.If you told them life is meaningless theyd just laugh at you and say 'no YOUR life is meaningless'.

I really enjoy debating with you
Thanks

 

[Chromosome-X]

I really enjoy debating with you
Thanks

me too, youre a smart guy

 

[PSLbbc]

me too, youre a smart guy

We're both high iq ig

 

[PSLbbc]

I think we both agree on more than you might think, I also dont believe life has inherent meaning. But you havent contradicted any of my points really, I actually agree with you. You say theres no objective meaning, but it doesnt matter thats the point. What matters is subjective meaning, because you and I are alive right now and that is something that we GIVE value to. Theres no objective value to it, but our perceptions force us to give it value. So the objective vs personal value thing is a false dichotomy. One is not better than the other. But for most people, life have value because they give it value. Snd for people this value comes from sex. Not god, or anything remotely parading as being objective. Finding objective truth is impossible and useless.
And when you said theres no cosmic rule saying this is good. Youre right, but theres no good or wrong, theyre abstractions created for us to survive. Morality is subjective. Theres just 'lawful' or 'unlawful' meaning something which follows its designed path or not. So when you dont have sex or lack human contact, youre not following the lawful path of your biology, which is why you suffer.
I think that your views are a cope in a way, for the fact that there are people like chads who have sex, never have to worry about an objective meaning but they live their lives either way. To them, life has value and its sex.If you told them life is meaningless theyd just laugh at you and say 'no YOUR life is meaningless'.

Damn I need some time to think about this

 

[PSLbbc]

I think we both agree on more than you might think, I also dont believe life has inherent meaning. But you havent contradicted any of my points really, I actually agree with you. You say theres no objective meaning, but it doesnt matter thats the point. What matters is subjective meaning, because you and I are alive right now and that is something that we GIVE value to. Theres no objective value to it, but our perceptions force us to give it value. So the objective vs personal value thing is a false dichotomy. One is not better than the other. But for most people, life have value because they give it value. Snd for people this value comes from sex. Not god, or anything remotely parading as being objective. Finding objective truth is impossible and useless.
And when you said theres no cosmic rule saying this is good. Youre right, but theres no good or wrong, theyre abstractions created for us to survive. Morality is subjective. Theres just 'lawful' or 'unlawful' meaning something which follows its designed path or not. So when you dont have sex or lack human contact, youre not following the lawful path of your biology, which is why you suffer.
I think that your views are a cope in a way, for the fact that there are people like chads who have sex, never have to worry about an objective meaning but they live their lives either way. To them, life has value and its sex.If you told them life is meaningless theyd just laugh at you and say 'no YOUR life is meaningless'.

Yeah we agree no inherent meaning straight up void no cosmic purpose baked into anything anywhere. Life isnt stamped with some eternal value or scoreboard.
But when you say subjective meaning is what actually matters because were alive right now and our perceptions force us to assign value to sex dopamine connection or whatever keeps the engine running youre still adding a soft comforting layer on top of the emptiness. Our wiring doesnt let us opt out. Evolution glued those cravings so deep into the hardware that no sex becomes literal torture dopamine crashes feel like death and getting laid hits like winning the lottery. Calling that process "giving value" makes it sound like some deliberate noble free act of creation when its really the machine hijacking your attention compelling you to care just to maximize reproduction and survival odds. Its not us choosing to value things. Its the biology forcing the assignment so the species keeps churning out more temporary meat.
Now compare Chad to a cocaine addict because the parallel is brutal and exact. The coke head doesnt question whether the high is "objectively meaningful" or if life has a deeper point outside the next line. Why would he? Every hit floods the system with reward so overwhelming that the rest of reality fades to gray. He feels alive euphoric powerful untouchable. Tell him the whole thing is a meaningless chemical trick that ends in tolerance crash and decay and hell laugh in your face say nah bro youre just jealous my life is lit yours is empty. And from inside his bubble he feels 100 percent right because the rewards are real as fuck to his brain chemistry. The addiction isnt giving him meaning its hijacking the meaning circuitry so completely that reflection becomes impossible. Chad is the same except the drug is pussy validation status IOIs the constant stream of female desire. His biology pays out jackpot after jackpot so the void never gets a chance to creep in. He doesnt need to philosophize about objective meaning because the subjective high is so consistent and intense it drowns out any need for it. To him life feels bursting with value and purpose because the wiring is firing on all cylinders rewarding compliance perfectly.
That doesnt make Chads existence more valid or prove the biological script is righteous or worth following. It just proves the trap is airtight for high reward cases. The programming blinds them executes flawlessly keeps them locked in the loop without ever questioning why the loop exists. The heroin addict chasing the next fix and the Chad chasing the next lay are both running on the same engine different fuel same outcome: total immersion in the illusion that the chase is the point.
The stricter blackpill take isnt about suffering more to feel enlightened or superior. Its refusing to slap that extra illusion on top that I gave it meaning so now its fine or justified or worth it. Suffering from deprivation isnt evidence the biological path is correct or lawful in some cosmic sense. Its evidence the path is coercive tyrannical punishing anyone who doesnt comply with pain isolation despair to enforce the script. You can acknowledge all that keep the illusion running eyes wide open no extra story layered on without pretending the ride is meaningful because it feels good for winners or because biology demands compliance.

 

[PSLbbc]

@Chromosome-X is the reply song corny?

 

[Chromosome-X]

@Chromosome-X is the reply song corny?

no I love the soundtrack of death note. Well written answer btw Im writing an answer

 

[PSLbbc]

no I love the soundtrack of death note. Well written answer btw Im writing an answer

Mirin