20 year old KHHV, should I escortmax?

[pprimus43]

Hey guys, I’m a 20-year-old KHHV (kissless, hugless, handholdless virgin) and I’ve been struggling with inexperience, which is really starting to mess with my head. I’ve been working on my looksmaxxing—hitting the gym, fixing my skincare, and upgrading my style—but no matter what, my lack of experience with women keeps holding me back. It’s like this massive mental block that makes me anxious, awkward, and kills my confidence when I try to put myself out there.
I’ve been seriously thinking about seeing an escort to just get it over with and finally know what it’s like to be intimate with someone. I’m not looking for a relationship or anything emotional; I just want to gain some basic experience so I’m not completely clueless. I feel like this could give me a bit of a confidence boost and make approaching women in real life a lot less daunting. I’m tired of feeling like I’m stuck on the outside while everyone else has already got their reps in.
But I’m also worried about the downsides—like, is it actually going to help me in the long run, or am I just wasting my time and money? I get that it’s not a substitute for real interactions, but I’m hoping it could be a stepping stone to get me past this mental hurdle. Would love to hear if anyone here has been in a similar spot or has any advice on whether seeing an escort is worth it, or if I should just keep grinding and try to build my experience naturally. They are about $200 where I am located.

 

[watah]

Yeah bro fuck it also 60% of men are khhv till 30

 

[pprimus43]

The way I see it as that escorts could be a "steroid" for my non existent dating life... it will give me good temporary fleeting results but could lead me to mental and emotional breakdown. There's always the shame of losing V card to escort but shit I do want sex.

 

[Deleted member 86159]

Yeah bro fuck it also 60% of men are khhv till 30

What statistic are you looking at jfl

 

[pprimus43]

Additional info: Average ish looks, mentalcel kinda, might be slightly autistic

 

[pprimus43]

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[toji.]

Hey guys, I’m a 20-year-old KHHV (kissless, hugless, handholdless virgin) and I’ve been struggling with inexperience, which is really starting to mess with my head. I’ve been working on my looksmaxxing—hitting the gym, fixing my skincare, and upgrading my style—but no matter what, my lack of experience with women keeps holding me back. It’s like this massive mental block that makes me anxious, awkward, and kills my confidence when I try to put myself out there.
I’ve been seriously thinking about seeing an escort to just get it over with and finally know what it’s like to be intimate with someone. I’m not looking for a relationship or anything emotional; I just want to gain some basic experience so I’m not completely clueless. I feel like this could give me a bit of a confidence boost and make approaching women in real life a lot less daunting. I’m tired of feeling like I’m stuck on the outside while everyone else has already got their reps in.
But I’m also worried about the downsides—like, is it actually going to help me in the long run, or am I just wasting my time and money? I get that it’s not a substitute for real interactions, but I’m hoping it could be a stepping stone to get me past this mental hurdle. Would love to hear if anyone here has been in a similar spot or has any advice on whether seeing an escort is worth it, or if I should just keep grinding and try to build my experience naturally. They are about $200 where I am located.

Install Tinder or similar; it might help you have encounters with romantic potential.

I don't recommend that your first experience be with escorts. The feeling you get afterward can be one of emptiness, and you might end up feeling worse than before.

That's why I suggest using a dating app; you might find someone who truly cares about you. (maybe)

 

[Deleted member 90941]

Hey guys, I’m a 20-year-old KHHV (kissless, hugless, handholdless virgin) and I’ve been struggling with inexperience, which is really starting to mess with my head. I’ve been working on my looksmaxxing—hitting the gym, fixing my skincare, and upgrading my style—but no matter what, my lack of experience with women keeps holding me back. It’s like this massive mental block that makes me anxious, awkward, and kills my confidence when I try to put myself out there.
I’ve been seriously thinking about seeing an escort to just get it over with and finally know what it’s like to be intimate with someone. I’m not looking for a relationship or anything emotional; I just want to gain some basic experience so I’m not completely clueless. I feel like this could give me a bit of a confidence boost and make approaching women in real life a lot less daunting. I’m tired of feeling like I’m stuck on the outside while everyone else has already got their reps in.
But I’m also worried about the downsides—like, is it actually going to help me in the long run, or am I just wasting my time and money? I get that it’s not a substitute for real interactions, but I’m hoping it could be a stepping stone to get me past this mental hurdle. Would love to hear if anyone here has been in a similar spot or has any advice on whether seeing an escort is worth it, or if I should just keep grinding and try to build my experience naturally. They are about $200 where I am located.

NO!

 

[watah]

Install Tinder or similar; it might help you have encounters with romantic potential.

I don't recommend that your first experience be with escorts. The feeling you get afterward can be one of emptiness, and you might end up feeling worse than before.

That's why I suggest using a dating app; you might find someone who truly cares about you. (maybe)

An autistic average guy isn’t slaying off tinder my bro

 

[pprimus43]

I have used dating apps and gotten okayish results (about 150-200 matches in like 5 ish months). About 7-8 agreed to go on a date with me, but I only went to 2 because of social anxiety. The 2 went nowhere.

Install Tinder or similar; it might help you have encounters with romantic potential.

I don't recommend that your first experience be with escorts. The feeling you get afterward can be one of emptiness, and you might end up feeling worse than before.

That's why I suggest using a dating app; you might find someone who truly cares about you. (maybe)

 

[pprimus43]

also I've been talking with some looksmaxxing friends and they say I'm currently High LTN/Low MTN and that if I softmaxx completely my genetic potential is Strong MTN

 

[toji.]

I have used dating apps and gotten okayish results (about 150-200 matches in like 5 ish months). About 7-8 agreed to go on a date with me, but I only went to 2 because of social anxiety. The 2 went nowhere.

So, there's a place to start—focus on that first. Based on what you've told me, the problem doesn't seem to be physical.

I'm pretty average in terms of looks, maybe mtn. I lost my virginity thanks to Tinder. Maybe getting used to dating and interacting with girls might help you become more comfortable in conversations.

If the issue is psychological, like anxiety, take it easy and go at your own pace. Honestly, I can tell you that sex is often overrated. Sometimes, a simple handjob can be more satisfying.

 

[pprimus43]

So, there's a place to start—focus on that first. Based on what you've told me, the problem doesn't seem to be physical.

I'm pretty average in terms of looks, maybe mtn. I lost my virginity thanks to Tinder. Maybe getting used to dating and interacting with girls might help you become more comfortable in conversations.

If the issue is psychological, like anxiety, take it easy and go at your own pace. Honestly, I can tell you that sex is often overrated. Sometimes, a simple handjob can be more satisfying.

A compromise is that I get a HJ or BJ from an escort instead. Probably cheaper as well and get me some exp. Any opinions on that?

 

[pprimus43]

Also just to clarify the 150-200 were spread across multiple apps, for Tinder alone I had maybe 100ish

 

[Klasik616]

I'm 22 and KHHV if I don't stop being a virgin or if I don't get a girlfriend before next year I'm gonna start fucking escorts to gain sexual experience with women since they don't wanna date me anyway.

 

[toji.]

A compromise is that I get a HJ or BJ from an escort instead. Probably cheaper as well and get me some exp. Any opinions on that?

It's not worth it. I'm serious. I have plenty of experience with escorts—I've had at least four encounters—and I've also had sex with some of the girls I've dated.

I can tell you it's overrated.

You're free to pursue those experiences, but I assure you that afterward, you'll likely leave thinking you could have spent the money on something better.

 

[pprimus43]

It's not worth it. I'm serious. I have plenty of experience with escorts—I've had at least four encounters—and I've also had sex with some of the girls I've dated.

I can tell you it's overrated.

You're free to pursue those experiences, but I assure you that afterward, you'll likely leave thinking you could have spent the money on something better.

Do you have any suggestions for getting past social anxiety that are not escortmaxxing? I am so afraid to interact with girls that this might be my only option. The 2 dates were humiliating, I had no idea what to do and the girls coudl tell.

 

[pprimus43]

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[toji.]

Do you have any suggestions for getting past social anxiety that are not escortmaxxing? I am so afraid to interact with girls that this might be my only option. The 2 dates were humiliating, I had no idea what to do and the girls coudl tell.

I was diagnosed with non-generalized social anxiety (anxiety at particular times), so I can understand your situation. I've also experienced how anxiety can ruin dating.

What I can tell you is that you need to let go. You need to realize that, no matter what happens, nothing is truly that important. Even if you were to have an embarrassing moment on a date, like shiting yourself, it doesn't really matter. The girl might laugh and share it as a funny story with her friends, but so what?

You could also try chatting on sites like Omegle or Ometv. When you're chatting, instead of thinking, 'I'm chatting with women,' just think, 'I'm chatting with a person,' and enjoy the moment, enjoy the conversation. And if you make a mistake, well, who cares?

 

[Deleted member 28398]

Fuck it, just escortmax

It’ll help build up your confidence, loosen your anxiety so you can eventually date actual females

 

[pprimus43]

Fuck it, just escortmax

It’ll help build up your confidence, loosen your anxiety so you can eventually date actual females

I hope this is the case, but I have been told that it could fuck up my ego that I had to use an escort

 

[EdgyFashionist]

What statistic are you looking at jfl

his friends circle

 

[Nick.Harte]

What statistic are you looking at jfl

.org stats

 

[ihearvoices]

Hey guys, I’m a 20-year-old KHHV (kissless, hugless, handholdless virgin) and I’ve been struggling with inexperience, which is really starting to mess with my head. I’ve been working on my looksmaxxing—hitting the gym, fixing my skincare, and upgrading my style—but no matter what, my lack of experience with women keeps holding me back. It’s like this massive mental block that makes me anxious, awkward, and kills my confidence when I try to put myself out there.
I’ve been seriously thinking about seeing an escort to just get it over with and finally know what it’s like to be intimate with someone. I’m not looking for a relationship or anything emotional; I just want to gain some basic experience so I’m not completely clueless. I feel like this could give me a bit of a confidence boost and make approaching women in real life a lot less daunting. I’m tired of feeling like I’m stuck on the outside while everyone else has already got their reps in.
But I’m also worried about the downsides—like, is it actually going to help me in the long run, or am I just wasting my time and money? I get that it’s not a substitute for real interactions, but I’m hoping it could be a stepping stone to get me past this mental hurdle. Would love to hear if anyone here has been in a similar spot or has any advice on whether seeing an escort is worth it, or if I should just keep grinding and try to build my experience naturally. They are about $200 where I am located.

I understand your problem bro.

You really dont want STD's, personally i wouldn't risk it.

 

[ihearvoices]

Written by almost 20 yo proud virgin

 

[sub5outsider]

do it get it out of your system

 

[Deleted member 26065]

Yes but don't pay for it

 

[faustianspirit]

why u care so much. just put yourself out there and talk to bitches, act retarded too, once u bag a bitch just go freestyle on her (consensual obviously)... rinse and repeat, progressive overload type shit

 

[pprimus43]

Written by almost 20 yo proud virgin

How do you cope. I'm getting closer and closer to total despair

 

[ihearvoices]

How do you cope. I'm getting closer and closer to total despair

Having traditional values, a bit of superiority complex