200 lbs or die trying

[Conspiracy]

Right now I think the least us guys can do just to feel better is hit 200lb

I dont care how short you are, if you are tall this will be easier

No excuses, we need to take anything to get us to 200lbs with abs

Turbos manlets will look huge at 180 or 190 lean though but 200 is the main goal

If you cant go gym right now because of lockdown just wait until shit opens up again you can always try to get closer to 200lbs before then

We will feel more masculine look more masculine and be more of a threat because of our mass we can use in fights

Forget looking pretty, orge monster maxxing is the way

 

[Deleted member 6538]

just descend yourself more theory

 

[Mouthbreath]

it is a difficult decision

certainly face > body so it is a nobrainer that you should (at least in the long run) stay below 15percent bf, to get some cheek hollowing and more angularity in the face

so the question is, do you want to roid and get to 200lb lean or just lift natty and stay <15percent bf, ideally at around 10percent

roiding to 200lb and above:
+ intimidation factor, men will respect you more
+ being strong and having high t feels great
- women will find it too much muscle, and you will be stereotyped as a bodybuilder
- face will likely become very bloated, most bodybuilders only get lean faces when they're at <6percent bf (But depends on the dose)

working out naturally (10-15percent bf), focus on neck and traps:
+ depending on your genetics you still look big to the average person
- dont have supraphysiological test levels
+ perfect body for attracting girls of all ages
+ face will look very lean at 10percent bf (depends a bit on your genetics obv)

 

[Conspiracy]

it is a difficult decision

certainly face > body so it is a nobrainer that you should (at least in the long run) stay below 15percent bf, to get some cheek hollowing and more angularity in the face

so the question is, do you want to roid and get to 200lb lean or just lift natty and stay <15percent bf, ideally at around 10percent

roiding to 200lb and above:
+ intimidation factor, men will respect you more
+ being strong and having high t feels great
- women will find it too much muscle, and you will be stereotyped as a bodybuilder
- face will likely become very bloated, most bodybuilders only get lean faces when they're at <6percent bf (But depends on the dose)

working out naturally (10-15percent bf), focus on neck and traps:
+ depending on your genetics you still look big to the average person
- dont have supraphysiological test levels
+ perfect body for attracting girls of all ages
+ face will look very lean at 10percent bf (depends a bit on your genetics obv)

Based on the pros and cons you have listed for each there is more cons to roiding to 200lbs but im not sure its as simple as that.

For example you say a con to roiding is women find the huge amount of muscle to be too much, which I do agree with, sort of.
I am not sure if they really find it too much or they are just insecure around men who put a lot of effort into their physiques and so they just say its too much muscle. In reality when the guy is way bigger than them surely that is attractive to them. I dont think we should necessarily listen to what they say, more so how they act. I dont think most insanely jacked guys have trouble getting laid I think the opposite is the case despite them saying huge amounts of muscle is too much. Ive seen the youtube videos where they say they prefer the non roiding guys but real life is always different.

The way guys will act when roiding generally will be lower inhib more confident and aggressive which women will prefer anyway.

I think people can find enough reasons to go down either path and its more just a case of having a bias with what you already wanted to do and finding things to confirm the views you already have.

I just think a life with low or even average T is a shit one compared to supraphysiological T regardless of the size you get to

 

[ItsOver.com]

Right now I think the least us guys can do just to feel better is hit 200lb

I dont care how short you are, if you are tall this will be easier

No excuses, we need to take anything to get us to 200lbs with abs

Turbos manlets will look huge at 180 or 190 lean though but 200 is the main goal

If you cant go gym right now because of lockdown just wait until shit opens up again you can always try to get closer to 200lbs before then

We will feel more masculine look more masculine and be more of a threat because of our mass we can use in fights

Forget looking pretty, orge monster maxxing is the way

Mf i am around 200 jfl

 

[Mouthbreath]

Based on the pros and cons you have listed for each there is more cons to roiding to 200lbs but im not sure its as simple as that.

For example you say a con to roiding is women find the huge amount of muscle to be too much, which I do agree with, sort of.
I am not sure if they really find it too much or they are just insecure around men who put a lot of effort into their physiques and so they just say its too much muscle. In reality when the guy is way bigger than them surely that is attractive to them. I dont think we should necessarily listen to what they say, more so how they act. I dont think most insanely jacked guys have trouble getting laid I think the opposite is the case despite them saying huge amounts of muscle is too much. Ive seen the youtube videos where they say they prefer the non roiding guys but real life is always different.

The way guys will act when roiding generally will be lower inhib more confident and aggressive which women will prefer anyway.

I think people can find enough reasons to go down either path and its more just a case of having a bias with what you already wanted to do and finding things to confirm the views you already have.

I just think a life with low or even average T is a shit one compared to supraphysiological T regardless of the size you get to

I agree with that, my points wouldnt be weighted equally. So if you think high t levels are very important, you might want to start roiding.

another con for roiding I just remembered is that it ages you, destroys your collagen and might rape your hair if you have the genetic disposition.

I'm personally not sure if roiding would be worth it for me, maybe it actually would because becoming a pretty boy is kind of off limits for me anyways. Definitely I feel a lot better now wearing large and extra large shirts than I did 2 years ago when I was a small twink jfl

 

[Conspiracy]

Mf i am around 200 jfl

How lean and yes since you are 6'1 its going to be a lot easier than a manlet.

 

[Baldingman1998]

Greg doucette off pro isn't even 200lb. Only if tall it's possible

 

[Conspiracy]

I agree with that, my points wouldnt be weighted equally. So if you think high t levels are very important, you might want to start roiding.

another con for roiding I just remembered is that it ages you, destroys your collagen and might rape your hair if you have the genetic disposition.

I'm personally not sure if roiding would be worth it for me, maybe it actually would because becoming a pretty boy is kind of off limits for me anyways. Definitely I feel a lot better now wearing large and extra large shirts than I did 2 years ago when I was a small twink jfl

You can always try a cycle or two. My levels come back and the majority of people will come back to at least close to what they had before so its not a huge risk.

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

just become a meatball

 

[Conspiracy]

Greg doucette off pro isn't even 200lb. Only if tall it's possible

he is 200lbs 5'6






another manlet, 250 lbs 5'5 but not really lean but still not fat



5'5 235lbs not fat

so 200 is possible for sure

These are just a few turbo manlets I could find with a quick search. Many manlets can hit 200lbs lean

 

[Baldingman1998]

he is 200lbs 5'6






another manlet, 250 lbs 5'5 but not really lean but still not fat



5'5 235lbs not fat

so 200 is possible for sure

These are just a few turbo manlets I could find with a quick search. Many manlets can hit 200lbs lean

Just lift for 40 years and be an ofbbpro on steroids to get tinder matches theory

 

[Conspiracy]

Just lift for 40 years and be an ofbbpro on steroids to get tinder matches theory

its not for women you idiot. its just to be a mass monster. It has no other meaning its just for something to do in life. The other guy I linked if you cared to look was 235lbs 5'5 at 21 so saying you have to lift for 40 years is dog shit. Its genetics food and roids and it can happen quicker than you think unless you have subhuman genetics.

 

[Beetlejuice]

100 lbs mogs

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

100 lbs mogs

 

[Beetlejuice]

 

[ItsOver.com]

How lean and yes since you are 6'1 its going to be a lot easier than a manlet.

I have visible abs when I flex hard but still lots of fat probably more than 15%

 

[Ricochet]

Right now I think the least us guys can do just to feel better is hit 200lb

I dont care how short you are, if you are tall this will be easier

No excuses, we need to take anything to get us to 200lbs with abs

Turbos manlets will look huge at 180 or 190 lean though but 200 is the main goal

If you cant go gym right now because of lockdown just wait until shit opens up again you can always try to get closer to 200lbs before then

We will feel more masculine look more masculine and be more of a threat because of our mass we can use in fights

Forget looking pretty, orge monster maxxing is the way

This. I gymmaxxed for 2 years natty and got up to around 200 lbs and that was the most IOIs I ever got from women. Seriously most normies are way to fat or underweight. You stand out like crazy if your 200lbs of with muscles. Just make sure that you can always atleast somewhat seethe outline of abs to make sure you're not carrying too much fat

 

[Conspiracy]

This. I gymmaxxed for 2 years natty and got up to around 200 lbs and that was the most IOIs I ever got from women. Seriously most normies are way to fat or underweight. You stand out like crazy if your 200lbs of with muscles. Just make sure that you can always atleast somewhat seethe outline of abs to make sure you're not carrying too much fat

All of you guys make it seem like 200 natty is easy to hit. You must be tall or not lean because me being a turbo manlet if I was 200 and ripped id be a fucking monster compared to 99% of lifters. I put 200lbs in my post because at my height its impossible to reach ripped at my height without juicing. So maybe if you can reach it natty and are still lean up the number from 200 to maybe 225+ at least.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

why?
I suspect thatr eating more calories = aging faster

figh club shape mogs

 

[Conspiracy]

why?
I suspect thatr eating more calories = aging faster

figh club shape mogs

I agree that the fight club physique that brad pitt has in the movie is a universally appealing one but I am not planning on doing this to looksmax or thinking it will get me pussy. I know it doesnt help I just want to be big.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

I agree that the fight club physique that brad pitt has in the movie is a universally appealing one but I am not planning on doing this to looksmax or thinking it will get me pussy. I know it doesnt help I just want to be big.

be big migh be fun

I just find it very inconvenient to eat a lot every day. and if you are going to inject there are collaterals, even worse.

 

[Conspiracy]

be big migh be fun

I just find it very inconvenient to eat a lot every day. and if you are going to inject there are collaterals, even worse.

Yeah I agree obviously it is annoying having to make sure you eat mountains of food every day without fail. Well its not necessarily the eating its just the making of the food. I could easily eat what was necessary. You just spend a lot of time preparing and shopping etc.