20K saved up and a last chance at a “prime” (old pic included)

[chadliteinprogress]

Howdy folks, 25 year old white guy blessed with decent aging genetics, good ish hair and 6’2”. I’ve gotten ratings on the discord (I will likely post here at some point) and can confidently say MTN as I’ve never had problems getting girls, in fact during a period of high school I was a nicotine and weed dealer and senior year I smashed around 9 or 10 girls. Long story short I’m about to leave my long term GF as I’ve wasted so much of my time and potential blah blah blah.

I make about 75k a year pre tax and I’ve become obsessed with maximizing my looks after the TikTok rise but also because I get to transfer to some college as a junior (possibly 2nd semester sophomore) and get to live out the college experience to some capacity. I can age fraud to 22 easily and was going to attempt to join a frat but at a minimum would be active on campus in a professional setting (trying to make it it to investment banking/a hedge fund/investment advisory), clubs and intramural sports.
Timetable: 9 months

I have 20k to spend and likely will have more, especially considering I could go tax free and bag 6k a month no problem. If you had to choose from this list what to spend it on, what would you choose?

Currently:
leanmaxxing (20% right now will get down to about 10 in 3-4 months)
Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)
Eyebrow dye
Eyelash dye (courtesy of @Clavicular)
Better diet with higher protein
Dickmaxxing (hanging and clamping, goal is 1.5 length and 1 girth and I’m more than solid BWC)
Height fraud to 6’4 with boots and small inserts( holy fuck does this work, tested it at work and got more positive attention than ever.)
Neck training, extremely important in my view.
Melanotan II, coloring is already looking so much better day by day and was a major issue.
Roid cycle with accutane inbound


Surgeries likely needed: (will show face at some point but I’ve obsessed to the point I know most of what my falios are)

-Mandibular angle implants (or fillers until more expensive solution). Decent ramus size but curved slightly and bad ish gonial angle

-Under eye implant or cantho plus fat graft (hollow ish under eyes with dark circles and medium bad lower eyelid laxity. Top tier eyes almost always have a straight lower eyelid reducing scleral show. Also have some imbalance on eye size that is visible.

-Submental lipo/maybe deep plane necklift (not the worst once lean enough but lowkey could use platysma and other muscles being moved back

-Rhino: crooked but large and slightly hooked I guess jew like nose. Not the worst of a looksmin but fixing the imbalance for harmony at some point

-Lefort 1: not horribly recessed but would help greatly

-Genioplasty: very weak chin, would likely add most initial PSL and improve beginnings of hollow cheeks.

Fractional laser for scarring alongside other techniques, guaranteed 4K and 100% doing for perfect tan ish skin

MSE or SARPE for widening of palate but I feel a wide face isn’t the most important thing to work on and fillers can help

Lastly, mild upper lip fillers as another harmony improver.

Assuming I go to decent tier doctors what would you spend the money on in order. I’ll also post a pic of me at 17, but not my current look (similar but more body fat and worse eye area but slightly wider skull). Mainly get a feel for my OG base. This all has to be done in approximately 9 months. Thanks

 

[appeal]

Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)

by limited sides, what does that mean for you?
bloat?

 

[chadliteinprogress]

by limited sides, what does that mean for you?
bloat?

No bloat, just mild palpatations and very occasional shortness of breath. 5MG daily felt way worse I had to sit down for a bit at times during the day, but man it works

 

[chadliteinprogress]

Bump

 

[thereallegend]

Don’t waste your money on those cope softmaxxes. That was my mistake. I had $25k saved up at one point. Now at paycheck to paycheck.

Get yourself signed up on the waiting list for relevant surgeries and focus on primal diet.

 

[chadliteinprogress]

Don’t waste your money on those cope softmaxxes. That was my mistake. I had $25k saved up at one point. Now at paycheck to paycheck.

Get yourself signed up on the waiting list for relevant surgeries and focus on primal diet.

Did carnivore and felt amazing but carb cycling has been working better. That’s what I’m asking, what surgeries should I get on my budget assuming a +5k per month increase.

 

[Alucard69]

MSE or SARPE

I wouldn't recommend, it's more of a functional thing than an aesthetic

 

[Alucard69]

This all has to be done in approximately 9 months.

You can't get that many surgeries in 9 months

 

[chadliteinprogress]

You can't get that many surgeries in 9 months

I know, debating priority wise what makes sense for maximum effect and value

 

[lurking truecel]

Implants will make the most difference if you dont have any functional issues that would benefit from bimax

 

[charliewillascend]

Your jaw looks narrow so rn I would say gonion implants (Matt rife classic) but I can’t tell from this photo you should post photos from 3/4 , Side and a few from the front so we can properly tell

 

[Deleted member 59811]

Howdy folks, 25 year old white guy blessed with decent aging genetics, good ish hair and 6’2”. I’ve gotten ratings on the discord (I will likely post here at some point) and can confidently say MTN as I’ve never had problems getting girls, in fact during a period of high school I was a nicotine and weed dealer and senior year I smashed around 9 or 10 girls. Long story short I’m about to leave my long term GF as I’ve wasted so much of my time and potential blah blah blah.

I make about 75k a year pre tax and I’ve become obsessed with maximizing my looks after the TikTok rise but also because I get to transfer to some college as a junior (possibly 2nd semester sophomore) and get to live out the college experience to some capacity. I can age fraud to 22 easily and was going to attempt to join a frat but at a minimum would be active on campus in a professional setting (trying to make it it to investment banking/a hedge fund/investment advisory), clubs and intramural sports.
Timetable: 9 months

I have 20k to spend and likely will have more, especially considering I could go tax free and bag 6k a month no problem. If you had to choose from this list what to spend it on, what would you choose?

Currently:
leanmaxxing (20% right now will get down to about 10 in 3-4 months)
Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)
Eyebrow dye
Eyelash dye (courtesy of @Clavicular)
Better diet with higher protein
Dickmaxxing (hanging and clamping, goal is 1.5 length and 1 girth and I’m more than solid BWC)
Height fraud to 6’4 with boots and small inserts( holy fuck does this work, tested it at work and got more positive attention than ever.)
Neck training, extremely important in my view.
Melanotan II, coloring is already looking so much better day by day and was a major issue.
Roid cycle with accutane inbound


Surgeries likely needed: (will show face at some point but I’ve obsessed to the point I know most of what my falios are)

-Mandibular angle implants (or fillers until more expensive solution). Decent ramus size but curved slightly and bad ish gonial angle

-Under eye implant or cantho plus fat graft (hollow ish under eyes with dark circles and medium bad lower eyelid laxity. Top tier eyes almost always have a straight lower eyelid reducing scleral show. Also have some imbalance on eye size that is visible.

-Submental lipo/maybe deep plane necklift (not the worst once lean enough but lowkey could use platysma and other muscles being moved back

-Rhino: crooked but large and slightly hooked I guess jew like nose. Not the worst of a looksmin but fixing the imbalance for harmony at some point

-Lefort 1: not horribly recessed but would help greatly

-Genioplasty: very weak chin, would likely add most initial PSL and improve beginnings of hollow cheeks.

Fractional laser for scarring alongside other techniques, guaranteed 4K and 100% doing for perfect tan ish skin

MSE or SARPE for widening of palate but I feel a wide face isn’t the most important thing to work on and fillers can help

Lastly, mild upper lip fillers as another harmony improver.

Assuming I go to decent tier doctors what would you spend the money on in order. I’ll also post a pic of me at 17, but not my current look (similar but more body fat and worse eye area but slightly wider skull). Mainly get a feel for my OG base. This all has to be done in approximately 9 months. Thanks

Dnr but if that's you you can easily fraud 18 too jfl

 

[GreekGenes]

If you think I'm gonna read that long ass wall of text instead of simply leaving a "dndr" you're sorely mistaken

 

[laaltin]

Only hardmaxx if you have one or two failos. It usually doesn’t work out when you need to touch up on everything

 

[afroheadluke]

i mean this in the most humble way possible but you look like kreekcraft

 

[Platato]

If your hair is still like the pic then a good haircut will solve most of your issues

 

[edodalic29]

If your hair is still like the pic then a good haircut will solve most of your issues

90% of people here just ironically need to get a haircut, tan and gymaxx . Thats literally 50% of smv right there

 

[Deleted member 105759]

could lose some weight

 

[benchcrab]

I pray for your success

 

[EliteMewing]

Howdy folks, 25 year old white guy blessed with decent aging genetics, good ish hair and 6’2”. I’ve gotten ratings on the discord (I will likely post here at some point) and can confidently say MTN as I’ve never had problems getting girls, in fact during a period of high school I was a nicotine and weed dealer and senior year I smashed around 9 or 10 girls. Long story short I’m about to leave my long term GF as I’ve wasted so much of my time and potential blah blah blah.

I make about 75k a year pre tax and I’ve become obsessed with maximizing my looks after the TikTok rise but also because I get to transfer to some college as a junior (possibly 2nd semester sophomore) and get to live out the college experience to some capacity. I can age fraud to 22 easily and was going to attempt to join a frat but at a minimum would be active on campus in a professional setting (trying to make it it to investment banking/a hedge fund/investment advisory), clubs and intramural sports.
Timetable: 9 months

I have 20k to spend and likely will have more, especially considering I could go tax free and bag 6k a month no problem. If you had to choose from this list what to spend it on, what would you choose?

Currently:
leanmaxxing (20% right now will get down to about 10 in 3-4 months)
Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)
Eyebrow dye
Eyelash dye (courtesy of @Clavicular)
Better diet with higher protein
Dickmaxxing (hanging and clamping, goal is 1.5 length and 1 girth and I’m more than solid BWC)
Height fraud to 6’4 with boots and small inserts( holy fuck does this work, tested it at work and got more positive attention than ever.)
Neck training, extremely important in my view.
Melanotan II, coloring is already looking so much better day by day and was a major issue.
Roid cycle with accutane inbound


Surgeries likely needed: (will show face at some point but I’ve obsessed to the point I know most of what my falios are)

-Mandibular angle implants (or fillers until more expensive solution). Decent ramus size but curved slightly and bad ish gonial angle

-Under eye implant or cantho plus fat graft (hollow ish under eyes with dark circles and medium bad lower eyelid laxity. Top tier eyes almost always have a straight lower eyelid reducing scleral show. Also have some imbalance on eye size that is visible.

-Submental lipo/maybe deep plane necklift (not the worst once lean enough but lowkey could use platysma and other muscles being moved back

-Rhino: crooked but large and slightly hooked I guess jew like nose. Not the worst of a looksmin but fixing the imbalance for harmony at some point

-Lefort 1: not horribly recessed but would help greatly

-Genioplasty: very weak chin, would likely add most initial PSL and improve beginnings of hollow cheeks.

Fractional laser for scarring alongside other techniques, guaranteed 4K and 100% doing for perfect tan ish skin

MSE or SARPE for widening of palate but I feel a wide face isn’t the most important thing to work on and fillers can help

Lastly, mild upper lip fillers as another harmony improver.

Assuming I go to decent tier doctors what would you spend the money on in order. I’ll also post a pic of me at 17, but not my current look (similar but more body fat and worse eye area but slightly wider skull). Mainly get a feel for my OG base. This all has to be done in approximately 9 months. Thanks

im gonna give you the recipe i used to ascend (i had a lower third identical to yours).
you dont need any other surgeries besides genio and maybe rhino.
get the genio definitely, them get jaw angle FILLERS. i could list the reasons but trust me implants are terrible.
for the submental area you dont need sugery, i know mewing and shit is cope but it worked HARD for my hanging ass low hyoid. just learn to properly position your tongue and ur golden. intraoral volume increases a bit from internal pressure changing a bit soft tissue and you get an even better result from this. i raised my hyoid like 7mm just by doing this for a year.
the rest of the plan is solid. just go easy on the surgeries and hard on the fillers and leanmaxxing. trust fix the tongue tho

 

[chadliteinprogress]

im gonna give you the recipe i used to ascend (i had a lower third identical to yours).
you dont need any other surgeries besides genio and maybe rhino.
get the genio definitely, them get jaw angle FILLERS. i could list the reasons but trust me implants are terrible.
for the submental area you dont need sugery, i know mewing and shit is cope but it worked HARD for my hanging ass low hyoid. just learn to properly position your tongue and ur golden. intraoral volume increases a bit from internal pressure changing a bit soft tissue and you get an even better result from this. i raised my hyoid like 7mm just by doing this for a year.
the rest of the plan is solid. just go easy on the surgeries and hard on the fillers and leanmaxxing. trust fix the tongue tho

Genio was definitely in the cards, basically looking at that and like you said on the jaw angle first. Appreciate it will work on it

 

[zanxpl]

Howdy folks, 25 year old white guy blessed with decent aging genetics, good ish hair and 6’2”. I’ve gotten ratings on the discord (I will likely post here at some point) and can confidently say MTN as I’ve never had problems getting girls, in fact during a period of high school I was a nicotine and weed dealer and senior year I smashed around 9 or 10 girls. Long story short I’m about to leave my long term GF as I’ve wasted so much of my time and potential blah blah blah.

I make about 75k a year pre tax and I’ve become obsessed with maximizing my looks after the TikTok rise but also because I get to transfer to some college as a junior (possibly 2nd semester sophomore) and get to live out the college experience to some capacity. I can age fraud to 22 easily and was going to attempt to join a frat but at a minimum would be active on campus in a professional setting (trying to make it it to investment banking/a hedge fund/investment advisory), clubs and intramural sports.
Timetable: 9 months

I have 20k to spend and likely will have more, especially considering I could go tax free and bag 6k a month no problem. If you had to choose from this list what to spend it on, what would you choose?

Currently:
leanmaxxing (20% right now will get down to about 10 in 3-4 months)
Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)
Eyebrow dye
Eyelash dye (courtesy of @Clavicular)
Better diet with higher protein
Dickmaxxing (hanging and clamping, goal is 1.5 length and 1 girth and I’m more than solid BWC)
Height fraud to 6’4 with boots and small inserts( holy fuck does this work, tested it at work and got more positive attention than ever.)
Neck training, extremely important in my view.
Melanotan II, coloring is already looking so much better day by day and was a major issue.
Roid cycle with accutane inbound


Surgeries likely needed: (will show face at some point but I’ve obsessed to the point I know most of what my falios are)

-Mandibular angle implants (or fillers until more expensive solution). Decent ramus size but curved slightly and bad ish gonial angle

-Under eye implant or cantho plus fat graft (hollow ish under eyes with dark circles and medium bad lower eyelid laxity. Top tier eyes almost always have a straight lower eyelid reducing scleral show. Also have some imbalance on eye size that is visible.

-Submental lipo/maybe deep plane necklift (not the worst once lean enough but lowkey could use platysma and other muscles being moved back

-Rhino: crooked but large and slightly hooked I guess jew like nose. Not the worst of a looksmin but fixing the imbalance for harmony at some point

-Lefort 1: not horribly recessed but would help greatly

-Genioplasty: very weak chin, would likely add most initial PSL and improve beginnings of hollow cheeks.

Fractional laser for scarring alongside other techniques, guaranteed 4K and 100% doing for perfect tan ish skin

MSE or SARPE for widening of palate but I feel a wide face isn’t the most important thing to work on and fillers can help

Lastly, mild upper lip fillers as another harmony improver.

Assuming I go to decent tier doctors what would you spend the money on in order. I’ll also post a pic of me at 17, but not my current look (similar but more body fat and worse eye area but slightly wider skull). Mainly get a feel for my OG base. This all has to be done in approximately 9 months. Thanks

imagine saving 20k to try to change your looks but still ending up looking like MTN

 

[zemult]

You can't get that many surgeries in 9 months

If one was to get a jaw angle/infra-malar implant at once with fat grafts to the supra area, how long do you predict the swelling time is?

 

[EliteMewing]

Genio was definitely in the cards, basically looking at that and like you said on the jaw angle first. Appreciate it will work on it

dont take too long tho just go for it, or else you will probably procrastine and give up. get the genio first and them the fillers, its the order where u can match the jaw to chin (non permanent to permanent) instead of the opositte. again don't get implants NEVER Ever Never get implants trust me forget everything you read never get implants i beg you

 

[zemult]

dont take too long tho just go for it, or else you will probably procrastine and give up. get the genio first and them the fillers, its the order where u can match the jaw to chin (non permanent to permanent) instead of the opositte. again don't get implants NEVER Ever Never get implants trust me forget everything you read never get implants i beg you

Why are you so against implants?

 

[EliteMewing]

Why are you so against implants?

masseter dehiscence, late infections (years after), placement problems, migration (yes you heard me), bone erosion, aesthetic unpredictability, looks worse them fillers in general, long downtime, nerve damage that affects you looks (paralysis) etc etc etc i could make a huge list but no time rn. just trust me im in dental school aiming for maxfac

 

[zemult]

masseter dehiscence, late infections (years after), placement problems, migration (yes you heard me), bone erosion, aesthetic unpredictability, looks worse them fillers in general, long downtime, nerve damage that affects you looks (paralysis) etc etc etc i could make a huge list but no time rn. just trust me im in dental school aiming for maxfac

Migration?

 

[EliteMewing]

Migration?

if its not fixed by screws (plenty of them are not depending on the material), there can be bone resorption/erosion and subsequent movement of the implant.
dont get implants. fuck being permanent, just make enough money. fillers look 100 times better ive seen it irl thousands of times pls just trust me.

 

[EliteMewing]

also fillers on the jaw angles dont migrate and saturate the tissue with enough use making it look super natural and last a long long time. each time you fill it up it lasts longer

 

[chadliteinprogress]

also fillers on the jaw angles dont migrate and saturate the tissue with enough use making it look super natural and last a long long time. each time you fill it up it lasts longer

You have a general idea on cost? Really isn’t an issue but I like good value

 

[EliteMewing]

You have a general idea on cost? Really isn’t an issue but I like good value

find a good practitioner who charges cheap. i have no idea cause i got a personal one and i live in a poor ass country and i did a deal with him to increase portfolio so i got like 1ml for 100$ lmfao. got a full transformation for 800$
but ur probs gonna get charged like 400$-600$ the ml? so 2-4k for a good transformation that lasts a year.
you can also travel to a poor country and get it done for dirty cheap

 

[chadliteinprogress]

find a good practitioner who charges cheap. i have no idea cause i got a personal one and i live in a poor ass country and i did a deal with him to increase portfolio so i got like 1ml for 100$ lmfao. got a full transformation for 800$
but ur probs gonna get charged like 400$-600$ the ml? so 2-4k for a good transformation that lasts a year.
you can also travel to a poor country and get it done for dirty cheap

find a good practitioner who charges cheap. i have no idea cause i got a personal one and i live in a poor ass country and i did a deal with him to increase portfolio so i got like 1ml for 100$ lmfao. got a full transformation for 800$
but ur probs gonna get charged like 400$-600$ the ml? so 2-4k for a good transformation that lasts a year.
you can also travel to a poor country and get it done for dirty cheap

Last question, but what type of filler, HA or Radiesse? or something else per chance? Appreciate the help

 

[EliteMewing]

Last question, but what type of filler, HA or Radiesse? or something else per chance? Appreciate the help

first give it a try with HA and after you figure you look good with it next time go for radiesse. safe way to test out.

 

[zemult]

if its not fixed by screws (plenty of them are not depending on the material), there can be bone resorption/erosion and subsequent movement of the implant.
dont get implants. fuck being permanent, just make enough money. fillers look 100 times better ive seen it irl thousands of times pls just trust me.

I don't think the migration is comparable to fillers though. Way less significant changes

 

[EliteMewing]

I don't think the migration is comparable to fillers though. Way less significant changes

bruh why the fuck do you want to discuss this with me i literally work on the field and have no reason to lie.
fillers on the jaw angle DONT migrate. EVER.
also dont cause bone erosion. extremely predictable, you literally sculpt/craft the perfect jaw IRT.
fillers are terrible and migrate in these areas: undereyes, zygos, smile lines.
they also cause bone erosion in the chin thats why i said get genio (that + less projection)
anyways im both an expert and an actual user, i got several thousand $ of filler in my face rn and my jaw looks insane. just trust me on this one

 

[moze]

masseter dehiscence, late infections (years after), placement problems, migration (yes you heard me), bone erosion, aesthetic unpredictability, looks worse them fillers in general, long downtime, nerve damage that affects you looks (paralysis) etc etc etc i could make a huge list but no time rn. just trust me im in dental school aiming for maxfac

Is it the same for infra implants?

 

[Alucard69]

If one was to get a jaw angle/infra-malar implant at once with fat grafts to the supra area, how long do you predict the swelling time is?

I don't know tbh

 

[Alucard69]

bruh why the fuck do you want to discuss this with me i literally work on the field and have no reason to lie.
fillers on the jaw angle DONT migrate. EVER.
also dont cause bone erosion. extremely predictable, you literally sculpt/craft the perfect jaw IRT.
fillers are terrible and migrate in these areas: undereyes, zygos, smile lines.
they also cause bone erosion in the chin thats why i said get genio (that + less projection)
anyways im both an expert and an actual user, i got several thousand $ of filler in my face rn and my jaw looks insane. just trust me on this one

You'll need to do fillers for a lifetime. I'd say it's better to squeeze everything out of bone first. Depending on his needs he could get some ramus widening etc..

I'm not so sure fillers come without issues always. Build up, migration, scar tissue etc.. you say that you've expertise in the area, but there are lots of "experts" and surgeons against it. So i'm not sure that has any merit

 

[zemult]

You'll need to do fillers for a lifetime. I'd say it's better to squeeze everything out of bone first. Depending on his needs he could get some ramus widening etc..

I'm not so sure fillers come without issues always. Build up, migration, scar tissue etc.. you say that you've expertise in the area, but there are lots of "experts" and surgeons against it. So i'm not sure that has any merit

Would ramus widening be good for somebody that has normal forward growth with a long ramus but narrow bigonial?

 

[Alucard69]

Would ramus widening be good for somebody that has normal forward growth with a long ramus but narrow bigonial?

Yes, but it's very limited in movements generally afaik. Also not many surgeons do it

 

[majstr]

Howdy folks, 25 year old white guy blessed with decent aging genetics, good ish hair and 6’2”. I’ve gotten ratings on the discord (I will likely post here at some point) and can confidently say MTN as I’ve never had problems getting girls, in fact during a period of high school I was a nicotine and weed dealer and senior year I smashed around 9 or 10 girls. Long story short I’m about to leave my long term GF as I’ve wasted so much of my time and potential blah blah blah.

I make about 75k a year pre tax and I’ve become obsessed with maximizing my looks after the TikTok rise but also because I get to transfer to some college as a junior (possibly 2nd semester sophomore) and get to live out the college experience to some capacity. I can age fraud to 22 easily and was going to attempt to join a frat but at a minimum would be active on campus in a professional setting (trying to make it it to investment banking/a hedge fund/investment advisory), clubs and intramural sports.
Timetable: 9 months

I have 20k to spend and likely will have more, especially considering I could go tax free and bag 6k a month no problem. If you had to choose from this list what to spend it on, what would you choose?

Currently:
leanmaxxing (20% right now will get down to about 10 in 3-4 months)
Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)
Eyebrow dye
Eyelash dye (courtesy of @Clavicular)
Better diet with higher protein
Dickmaxxing (hanging and clamping, goal is 1.5 length and 1 girth and I’m more than solid BWC)
Height fraud to 6’4 with boots and small inserts( holy fuck does this work, tested it at work and got more positive attention than ever.)
Neck training, extremely important in my view.
Melanotan II, coloring is already looking so much better day by day and was a major issue.
Roid cycle with accutane inbound


Surgeries likely needed: (will show face at some point but I’ve obsessed to the point I know most of what my falios are)

-Mandibular angle implants (or fillers until more expensive solution). Decent ramus size but curved slightly and bad ish gonial angle

-Under eye implant or cantho plus fat graft (hollow ish under eyes with dark circles and medium bad lower eyelid laxity. Top tier eyes almost always have a straight lower eyelid reducing scleral show. Also have some imbalance on eye size that is visible.

-Submental lipo/maybe deep plane necklift (not the worst once lean enough but lowkey could use platysma and other muscles being moved back

-Rhino: crooked but large and slightly hooked I guess jew like nose. Not the worst of a looksmin but fixing the imbalance for harmony at some point

-Lefort 1: not horribly recessed but would help greatly

-Genioplasty: very weak chin, would likely add most initial PSL and improve beginnings of hollow cheeks.

Fractional laser for scarring alongside other techniques, guaranteed 4K and 100% doing for perfect tan ish skin

MSE or SARPE for widening of palate but I feel a wide face isn’t the most important thing to work on and fillers can help

Lastly, mild upper lip fillers as another harmony improver.

Assuming I go to decent tier doctors what would you spend the money on in order. I’ll also post a pic of me at 17, but not my current look (similar but more body fat and worse eye area but slightly wider skull). Mainly get a feel for my OG base. This all has to be done in approximately 9 months. Thanks

just buy volufiline you could save a lot of money for under eye fat

 

[saynotoshredding]

Howdy folks, 25 year old white guy blessed with decent aging genetics, good ish hair and 6’2”. I’ve gotten ratings on the discord (I will likely post here at some point) and can confidently say MTN as I’ve never had problems getting girls, in fact during a period of high school I was a nicotine and weed dealer and senior year I smashed around 9 or 10 girls. Long story short I’m about to leave my long term GF as I’ve wasted so much of my time and potential blah blah blah.

I make about 75k a year pre tax and I’ve become obsessed with maximizing my looks after the TikTok rise but also because I get to transfer to some college as a junior (possibly 2nd semester sophomore) and get to live out the college experience to some capacity. I can age fraud to 22 easily and was going to attempt to join a frat but at a minimum would be active on campus in a professional setting (trying to make it it to investment banking/a hedge fund/investment advisory), clubs and intramural sports.
Timetable: 9 months

I have 20k to spend and likely will have more, especially considering I could go tax free and bag 6k a month no problem. If you had to choose from this list what to spend it on, what would you choose?

Currently:
leanmaxxing (20% right now will get down to about 10 in 3-4 months)
Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)
Eyebrow dye
Eyelash dye (courtesy of @Clavicular)
Better diet with higher protein
Dickmaxxing (hanging and clamping, goal is 1.5 length and 1 girth and I’m more than solid BWC)
Height fraud to 6’4 with boots and small inserts( holy fuck does this work, tested it at work and got more positive attention than ever.)
Neck training, extremely important in my view.
Melanotan II, coloring is already looking so much better day by day and was a major issue.
Roid cycle with accutane inbound


Surgeries likely needed: (will show face at some point but I’ve obsessed to the point I know most of what my falios are)

-Mandibular angle implants (or fillers until more expensive solution). Decent ramus size but curved slightly and bad ish gonial angle

-Under eye implant or cantho plus fat graft (hollow ish under eyes with dark circles and medium bad lower eyelid laxity. Top tier eyes almost always have a straight lower eyelid reducing scleral show. Also have some imbalance on eye size that is visible.

-Submental lipo/maybe deep plane necklift (not the worst once lean enough but lowkey could use platysma and other muscles being moved back

-Rhino: crooked but large and slightly hooked I guess jew like nose. Not the worst of a looksmin but fixing the imbalance for harmony at some point

-Lefort 1: not horribly recessed but would help greatly

-Genioplasty: very weak chin, would likely add most initial PSL and improve beginnings of hollow cheeks.

Fractional laser for scarring alongside other techniques, guaranteed 4K and 100% doing for perfect tan ish skin

MSE or SARPE for widening of palate but I feel a wide face isn’t the most important thing to work on and fillers can help

Lastly, mild upper lip fillers as another harmony improver.

Assuming I go to decent tier doctors what would you spend the money on in order. I’ll also post a pic of me at 17, but not my current look (similar but more body fat and worse eye area but slightly wider skull). Mainly get a feel for my OG base. This all has to be done in approximately 9 months. Thanks

what do you mean by “go tax free”

 

[chadliteinprogress]

what do you mean by “go tax free”

Have no taxes taken out and beat the IRS for a change/pay them later

 

[saynotoshredding]

Have no taxes taken out and beat the IRS for a change/pay them later

good luck standing between the US government and their primary source of income lmao

 

[chadliteinprogress]

good luck standing between the US government and their primary source of income lmao

Already have, just going to pay over time and have more upfront cash. They get theirs either way I just don’t give them an interest free loan for an entire year

 

[pandamonium]

Howdy folks, 25 year old white guy blessed with decent aging genetics, good ish hair and 6’2”. I’ve gotten ratings on the discord (I will likely post here at some point) and can confidently say MTN as I’ve never had problems getting girls, in fact during a period of high school I was a nicotine and weed dealer and senior year I smashed around 9 or 10 girls. Long story short I’m about to leave my long term GF as I’ve wasted so much of my time and potential blah blah blah.

I make about 75k a year pre tax and I’ve become obsessed with maximizing my looks after the TikTok rise but also because I get to transfer to some college as a junior (possibly 2nd semester sophomore) and get to live out the college experience to some capacity. I can age fraud to 22 easily and was going to attempt to join a frat but at a minimum would be active on campus in a professional setting (trying to make it it to investment banking/a hedge fund/investment advisory), clubs and intramural sports.
Timetable: 9 months

I have 20k to spend and likely will have more, especially considering I could go tax free and bag 6k a month no problem. If you had to choose from this list what to spend it on, what would you choose?

Currently:
leanmaxxing (20% right now will get down to about 10 in 3-4 months)
Oral minoxidil (eyelashes are coming in and eyebrows getting larger as well. 2.5MG daily works with limited sides, 5MG started feeling heart palpitations and such)
Eyebrow dye
Eyelash dye (courtesy of @Clavicular)
Better diet with higher protein
Dickmaxxing (hanging and clamping, goal is 1.5 length and 1 girth and I’m more than solid BWC)
Height fraud to 6’4 with boots and small inserts( holy fuck does this work, tested it at work and got more positive attention than ever.)
Neck training, extremely important in my view.
Melanotan II, coloring is already looking so much better day by day and was a major issue.
Roid cycle with accutane inbound


Surgeries likely needed: (will show face at some point but I’ve obsessed to the point I know most of what my falios are)

-Mandibular angle implants (or fillers until more expensive solution). Decent ramus size but curved slightly and bad ish gonial angle

-Under eye implant or cantho plus fat graft (hollow ish under eyes with dark circles and medium bad lower eyelid laxity. Top tier eyes almost always have a straight lower eyelid reducing scleral show. Also have some imbalance on eye size that is visible.

-Submental lipo/maybe deep plane necklift (not the worst once lean enough but lowkey could use platysma and other muscles being moved back

-Rhino: crooked but large and slightly hooked I guess jew like nose. Not the worst of a looksmin but fixing the imbalance for harmony at some point

-Lefort 1: not horribly recessed but would help greatly

-Genioplasty: very weak chin, would likely add most initial PSL and improve beginnings of hollow cheeks.

Fractional laser for scarring alongside other techniques, guaranteed 4K and 100% doing for perfect tan ish skin

MSE or SARPE for widening of palate but I feel a wide face isn’t the most important thing to work on and fillers can help

Lastly, mild upper lip fillers as another harmony improver.

Assuming I go to decent tier doctors what would you spend the money on in order. I’ll also post a pic of me at 17, but not my current look (similar but more body fat and worse eye area but slightly wider skull). Mainly get a feel for my OG base. This all has to be done in approximately 9 months. Thanks

If u have 25k saved up use it to make more money. Get surgeries once u are actually able to get them frequently. One or two surgeries isnt going to save shit

 

[zubin]

man said 25k and lemme blow it on 7 surgeries to relive uni? Cold

 

[Foreverbrad]

bruh why the fuck do you want to discuss this with me i literally work on the field and have no reason to lie.
fillers on the jaw angle DONT migrate. EVER.
also dont cause bone erosion. extremely predictable, you literally sculpt/craft the perfect jaw IRT.
fillers are terrible and migrate in these areas: undereyes, zygos, smile lines.
they also cause bone erosion in the chin thats why i said get genio (that + less projection)
anyways im both an expert and an actual user, i got several thousand $ of filler in my face rn and my jaw looks insane. just trust me on this one

Yeah I came to same conclusion about jaw angle fillers vs implants.

Is your opinion the same for infraorbital and supra orbital? I am planning on implants for these areas but in PEEK with fixation screws so no migration is really possible.

Also I heard first hand from a practitioner that you will not be able to do “saddles” with filler so it’s not capable of addressing the core issue which is vertically excessive orbits.

 

[EliteMewing]

Yeah I came to same conclusion about jaw angle fillers vs implants.

Is your opinion the same for infraorbital and supra orbital? I am planning on implants for these areas but in PEEK with fixation screws so no migration is really possible.

Also I heard first hand from a practitioner that you will not be able to do “saddles” with filler so it’s not capable of addressing the core issue which is vertically excessive orbits.

i dont advise messing with orbits altogether. either way if you have a true deformity in the area where its 100% necessary i would go with implants. otherwise just max out everything else including eyebrows and eyelashes, get eyebrow lowering with botox, and fuck the rest... not worth it. too many botches

 

[Foreverbrad]

i dont advise messing with orbits altogether. either way if you have a true deformity in the area where its 100% necessary i would go with implants. otherwise just max out everything else including eyebrows and eyelashes, get eyebrow lowering with botox, and fuck the rest... not worth it. too many botches

Unfortunately it’s giga fucked, I had Botox last year and it was like pissing in the ocean. I don’t think any standard osteotomy could save my eye area.