27 to old for natty gymcelling? Only roids?

[Deusmaximus]

I dont have time for a 2yr transformation, since my smv will be totally zero in 2-3years. Only option roids? trt?

 

[Deleted member 8846]

Luckily gymcelling is cope for most men so don't worry about it. Face is everything

 

[LooksPSL]

I dont have time for a 2yr transformation, since my smv will be totally zero in 2-3years. Only option roids? trt?

Luckily gymcelling is cope for most men so don't worry about it. Face is everything

Cringed at both of these

 

[Deusmaximus]

Luckily gymcelling is cope for most men so don't worry about it. Face is everything

I morphed my pictures with more muscles and had totally different feedback and horny girls ready to fuck.

 

[Deleted member 8846]

Cringed at both of these

 

[Deleted member 8846]

I morphed my pictures with more muscles and had totally different feedback and horny girls ready to fuck.

then get ripped or die mirin' bhai

 

[Deusmaximus]

then get ripped or die mirin' bhai

Yes, but how?? What kind of roids? I am hairloss sensitive and already on fin, so dht`s are not possible for me.

 

[LooksPSL]

I morphed my pictures with more muscles and had totally different feedback and horny girls ready to fuck.

....so workout.

 

[LooksPSL]

Yes, but how?? What kind of roids? I am hairloss sensitive and already on fin, so dht`s are not possible for me.

You don’t need Roids. You don’t have to have a god tier Jeff seid body. Workout and in 2 years you’ll see drastic improvement

 

[Deusmaximus]

Workout and in 2 years you’ll see drastic improvement

Thats what i mean. I am really convinced that the time to have sex and dates without betabuxxing is over at 30. Its also almost impossible to fraud age. So my time left is almost over. I would need a quick fix within the next 6 months.

 

[mikeock]

If you want looks, roid. If you want health, go natty

 

[Deusmaximus]

If you want looks, roid. If you want health, go natty

I dont care about health, i hate myself and my life so much that i dont want to get old anyways.

 

[Deleted member 8846]

I dont care about health, i hate myself and my life so much that i dont want to get old anyways.

then just loanmaxx and surgery lol

 

[Deusmaximus]

then just loanmaxx and surgery lol

It would take me 2-3 years to ascend. Thats way to late.
First mse/msdo+braces 1-1.5years and then bimax which needs another 1yr of recovery before i could get a wraparound jaw implant.
Time is working against me, and there is no hope left for me.

 

[mikeock]

I dont care about health, i hate myself and my life so much that i dont want to get old anyways.

Then do roids bro. Make sure to stack several compounds for that magazine/Instagram look and also take aromatase inhibitors to minimize the side effects. Also, at the very least make sure you're under 15% bodyfat when you start. If you roid when fat, you'll end up looking like this trt coper:

 

[Gaia262]

I dont have time for a 2yr transformation, since my smv will be totally zero in 2-3years. Only option roids? trt?

Testosterone + Anavar

Or if you want minimal side effects

Primobolan + anavar.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

I dont have time for a 2yr transformation, since my smv will be totally zero in 2-3years. Only option roids? trt?

lol its over, try trt or do igf-1 so u dont end up a old fuck ok

 

[poloralf]

Yes, but how?? What kind of roids? I am hairloss sensitive and already on fin, so dht`s are not possible for me.

roid the flying fuck up, and workout daily

 

[Deusmaximus]

roid the flying fuck up, and workout daily

I cant train everyday. I feel to exhausted the day after gym. So i always do one day pause.

 

[Deleted member 10449]

Luckily gymcelling is cope for most men so don't worry about it. Face is everything

Thats what i mean. I am really convinced that the time to have sex and dates without betabuxxing is over at 30. Its also almost impossible to fraud age. So my time left is almost over. I would need a quick fix within the next 6 months.

Totally disagree

A lot of beatiful 30 year old women, who are not interested in having family or kids, and are still just lurking around for casual sex
Probably more experienced and better in bed than most in their 20s

You have more than enough time. If you also make sure to look younger you should be very fine

I agree though that without face muscles are nothing

 

[Deusmaximus]

Totally disagree

A lot of beatiful 30 year old women, who are not interested in having family or kids, and are still just lurking around for casual sex
Probably more experienced and better in bed than most in their 20s

You have more than enough time. If you also make sure to look younger you should be very fine

These 30yr olds are all looking for a young fuckboy. I am sure they would all choose a hot 23yr old over a goodlooking 30yr old, when it comes to fucking.
Also 30yr old girls that are still hot, have a huuuuge market value, and are even more picky when it comes to their guys.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I know you want to do it

Pull the trigger

 

[Bewusst]

Op is one of those species that haven‘t even seen a gym inside irl and already ask about roids. Happy ascending bro

Spoiler

of your hairline

 

[Deusmaximus]

I know you want to do it

Pull the trigger

 

[Deleted member 10449]

These 30yr olds are all looking for a young fuckboy. I am sure they would all choose a hot 23yr old over a goodlooking 30yr old, when it comes to fucking.
Also 30yr old girls that are still hot, have a huuuuge market value, and are even more picky when it comes to their guys.

JFL bro you sound like a complete autist, do you even interact with women?

I know a foid in particular, she is 30, hot as fuck, does not date young guys, wants manly guys her age or older

Stop coping, fix your face, and go get foids

 

[Deleted member 10536]

I dont have time for a 2yr transformation, since my smv will be totally zero in 2-3years. Only option roids? trt?

Depends on your current position/strenght/body. If you don't have nervous base or you are weak/skinny already - roids won't do much for you, it's better to go natty. To learn the lifts and it's in big part psychological journey too. Imo get to atleast your own weight bp, 1plate ohp and you can look into roids as a shortcut, even though many would disagree, rightfully so.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Op is one of those species that haven‘t even seen a gym inside irl and already ask about roids. Happy ascending bro

Spoiler

of your hairline

The problem is that i am training since years. At 20-23 i was so big and ripped that people thought i am a roidhead.
After 23 i fell into deep depressions and was extremely low t (235-291ng/dl). My complete body shrink and i lost 10kg of weight (from 80 to 70kg).
People constantly tell me i looked so muscular back then, and how much weight i lost (((

 

[GymcelDoomer]

You're fine. The male body is pretty resilient - our bodies dont show signs of ageing until 50s granted you keep fit. I noticed foids start sagging in their 30s bruh

 

[poloralf]

I cant train everyday. I feel to exhausted the day after gym. So i always do one day pause.

if you roid you'll be able to train twice daily with no rest day and be fine, hell if you add hgh you can do that while sleeping 5 hours a day and wake up full of energy.

 

[Deusmaximus]

You're fine. The male body is pretty resilient - our bodies dont show signs of ageing until 50s granted you keep fit. I noticed foids start sagging in their 30s bruh

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I am talking about aging FACE.

 

[NorwoodStyle]

It would take me 2-3 years to ascend. Thats way to late.
First mse/msdo+braces 1-1.5years and then bimax which needs another 1yr of recovery before i could get a wraparound jaw implant.
Time is working against me, and there is no hope left for me.

Isn't it too late for mse/msdo if you're oldcel?
Sergio-OMS here said that mse is a no-no if you're over 25. High risk of relapse/failure apparently. Unless you found an ortho who would take the risk in which case pm me the name.
There's no time for big surgery plans if you're oldcel anyway. Mse takes way too long, better to jump straight into bimax/implants.

 

[Deusmaximus]

if you roid you'll be able to train twice daily with no rest day and be fine, hell if you add hgh you can do that while sleeping 5 hours a day and wake up full of energy.

Isn't it too late for mse/msdo if you're oldcel?
Sergio-OMS here said that mse is a no-no if you're over 25. High risk of relapse/failure apparently. Unless you found an ortho who would take the risk in which case pm me the name.
There's no time for big surgery plans if you're oldcel anyway. Mse takes way too long, better to jump straight into bimax/implants.

I talked with russian dr.A and he told me that i need widening of both jaws first, before forward movement.

 

[NorwoodStyle]

As for roids, you need to make noob gains natty over 6 months, then jump on trt for another 6 months. If the gains are decent, keep on cruising. If not do a couple cycles and revert back to trt for life.

 

[NorwoodStyle]

I talked with russian dr.A and he told me that i need widening of both jaws first, before forward movement.

How old r u btw?
Edit nvm just saw the title

 

[Deusmaximus]

How old r u btw?

27

 

[St. Wristcel]

27-28 is the male physical prime but roid will help

 

[NorwoodStyle]

27

Did he say you need mse explicitly or did he mention surgically assisted expansion.
SARPE is maybe what he has in mind for oldcels and it's apparently not as effective as mse.

 

[Deusmaximus]

27-28 is the male physical prime but roid will help

Most guys that i know have lost 30-50% of their attractiveness. Wrinkles, sagging fat pads, collagen, hairloss, bodyfat. The time for dating is also over for most of them. They are all talking about: when i was younger i went partying and had fun with girls, these times are over. I think none of them really has dates anymore.
Only 2 chad friends of mine are having the time of their life with huge amount of weekly new lays. One of them is 30 and other is 28.

 

[6’1cel]

I dont have time for a 2yr transformation, since my smv will be totally zero in 2-3years. Only option roids? trt?

never too old to bodybuild
ur at an age where your t level have plummeted or are going to plummet soon so you might aswell roid

 

[St. Wristcel]

Most guys that i know have lost 30-50% of their attractiveness. Wrinkles, sagging fat pads, collagen, hairloss, bodyfat. The time for dating is also over for most of them. They are all talking about: when i was younger i went partying and had fun with girls, these times are over. I think none of them really has dates anymore.
Only 2 chad friends of mine are having the time of their life with huge amount of weekly new lays. One of them is 30 and other is 28.

Yeah looks decline for sure but 27-28 is supposed to be the male prime for strength
edit: I was wrong JFL but close enough

 

[TITUS]

The problem is that i am training since years. At 20-23 i was so big and ripped that people thought i am a roidhead.
After 23 i fell into deep depressions and was extremely low t (235-291ng/dl). My complete body shrink and i lost 10kg of weight (from 80 to 70kg).
People constantly tell me i looked so muscular back then, and how much weight i lost (((

Then just roid. If you already know how to train and how to eat you should be fine.

You can start with HGH and something like salbutamol to leanmax without starving yourself or losing too much muscle and after some weeks jump on roids. It's called cycle priming, i have been doing this for months already unintentionally, and today pinning HGH for the first time, before bed. I'll leanmax for 2-3 more weeks and then start the cycle right away.
Already did all my bloods and other tests like semen recount, etc.
Im doing a short cycle 6-8 weeks, maybe even longer, lenght depending on if i plateau or not Test E+ Test P to kickstart/close the cycle for faster PCT 200-250mg/week total.
If im doing fine ill add 20-40mg anavar after a couple weeks.
If im doing fine ill add slin. Slin is not advised for noobs, maybe because you don't need it if you don't have massive amounts of muscle, besides retards going hypo.
PCT with the usual PCT plus HGH+slin and salbutamol if needed.
Then go back to normal blood levels while leanmaxxing with non steroidal compounds or no compounds at all and maybe a short cycle again after few months. 1-2 cycles a year probably enough.

If you want to do things right you will spend several hundred bucks, specially if you can't do your tests on social security bucks.
I suggest you buy raw powder from the factories directly and homebrew most of the stuff, and buy if you want some pills of the same compounds so you know the feeling of it. Anavar powder from China probably has more chances of being legit than UGL pills.

For the hair, min+fin before bed and min/other solvent+ru 12 hours later, and whatever else you want to add.

During the cycle and even months prior, gym should be your life, you should live to train and have everything on point, this way you won't waste your time with a shitty cycle.

 

[TITUS]

As for roids, you need to make noob gains natty over 6 months, then jump on trt for another 6 months. If the gains are decent, keep on cruising. If not do a couple cycles and revert back to trt for life.

Shitty advice.

 

[NorwoodStyle]

Shitty advice.

Why? Genuinely curious.

 

[TITUS]

Why? Genuinely curious.

He is too young for TRT, he should cycle and PCT.
He already got his "noobgains" he should just train again for some months while leanmaxing then straight into a short cycle.

 

[Yoyo2233]

Luckily gymcelling is cope for most men so don't worry about it. Face is everything

Height and face *

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Muscles is legit but I don't see the point of being a natty at all tbh
you will need to train for 3 years without stopping, even if you stop for 1 month you will lose a lot of gains,
you have muscle memory but it still takes a lot to regain, and you will still not look good as you would as you would be roided

 

[Mouthbreath]

I talked with russian dr.A and he told me that i need widening of both jaws first, before forward movement.

but you couldnt change your ipd, so idk if that's a good idea. Have you measured your ipd?

 

[bimaximum]

These 30yr olds are all looking for a young fuckboy. I am sure they would all choose a hot 23yr old over a goodlooking 30yr old, when it comes to fucking.
Also 30yr old girls that are still hot, have a huuuuge market value, and are even more picky when it comes to their guys.

JFL if you think that 30yo girls want to fuck kids.
30's is mens prime because you can either fuck young and older girls.

 

[ropemaxx]

Stop fucking crying and start gymming.
lean down and get low body fat while focusing on the right muscles.
Dont follow these retarded programs people will recommend you

 

[Alexanderr]

You have time.