I know. I'm just using the beard to cover swelling until I'm fully healed. Will shave and make a new post in 2-3 months.
It is minimal. I just tried to address assymetry in the jaw, a short chin, and lack of cheeks/under eye support
Will do
what i suggest is, instead of trying to reach the top of your pheno you should be bringing in more appealing pheno's influence, that is what will change your dating life drastically
What could I do? My cheekbones are higher set, my chin is taller and wider, and my jaw is more angular. Is that not what is ideal? My face is pretty bloated and I shaved my head bald just for comparison. I'm working on getting to 10% BF and my hair is usually long and wavy. Isn't the whole point of looks maxing to peak your pheno? Trying to mimic another pheno would look uncanny, no?
ideal phenotypical features, obviously you cant change and be nordic (there is technically a way but its a huge grind, high risk and a shit ton of money)
Lol, so you want me to change my whole appearance to look like a Nordic European? How do you change the whole phenotypical compilation of bones? I feel like this is subjective rather than objective. I'm Asian/Middle Eastern, so shouldn't my pheno peak and muse be someone like Zayn Malik?...
.... no? reread what i said, you have a compilation of bones, your bones are made up of origin, peoples bones are unique and are flexible
You're losing me in confusion. Can you please provide an example?
bump
$34k. Thx
syrian with white features (no, not just coloring)
I mean, give me an example of something I could do to achieve this codominance. Should I bleach my skin? Are you saying that I should try to not look like my own ethnicity? The Syrian girl is striking because she does not depict the stereotypical Syrian woman with her blue eyes, blonde hair, and pale skin (although she is pretty average looking imho). Nobody ever guesses I'm Arab. They usually think Italian, Greek, European, etc.
i said, no not just coloring, dont take in account for her coloring, just go based off of what you think bone wise, i cant recommend anything because thats up to you and your phenotype
She has a very soft facial structure. She looks American. How does that boost her appeal and change her dating life drastically? She's going to appeal to guys that like white girls, just like a typical Syrian pheno (more striking and darker features with more prominent noses and cheekbones) is going to attract guys that like Arab girls. For example, I'm attracted to Arab girls and like their prominent facial features. I wouldn't be drawn to the girl shown above just because she is atypical for her pheno, although I agree she is striking, I would just assume she was American and disregard her. Are you saying that people who have features that are atypical to their pheno are more striking? For example, my nose is a lot smaller and straight compared to most Arab men, and that's why people assume I'm not Arab.
no, thats not what i meant, i said she was not the best example because her codominance is quite aggressive, its not really about strikingness, infact its kind of the opposite, what codominance means is your roped into 2 or more phenos, now if u do it the right way you can make it subtle and not strikingly obvious, with that brings in more general appeal
I see. So just look like you're genetically mixed and ambiguous? Kind of like light skins
looks good just shave the beard and lose fat
kind of, u can bring in good "cophentonic" expression without looking mixed however, people who have influenced bone placement that is subtle are lumped into a bigger dating pool
It's the swelling, beard, and high bf. It should look better in a couple months.
I'm still unsure how one would be able to make these changes even with surgery. I feel like surgery only looks good or natural if you are refining your own pheno. It's risky to try to look too different and you may end up botched or uncanny af
Yeah, I mean...I had a square shaped head/jaw, and that hasn't changed. It's squarer than it should be due to swelling and bloating, plus the beard is pretty thick atm, but the implant only makes my jaw more square by widening the gonions
What were you trying to accomplish exactly with these implants? Your jaw already looked wide enough beforehand, there's a possibility that it's too wide compared to your zygos now.
It's definitely not wider than my zygos. The thing is that I have very thick skin in my jaw area which made it look like my jaw was wide despite being very narrow. This became apparent when I smiled. I had it widened to compensate for this and because one side was wider than the other, so I wanted to balance things. Yeah, my eye area isn't the best. Despite having thick eyebrows and long lashes, I have NCT and my eyes are pretty big with slight scleral show and UEE. The IORs should definitely help, but I'm still early on in healing and the swelling seems to be pulling my eyes down temporarily as I've seen in other IOR cases. I was thinking about a canthplasty in the future, but a lot of the results look uncanny. I'm just working on healing and losing BF to see what my new base is to work with
It's definitely not wider than your zygos that I can agree with, but it seems close enough to appear uncanny now. It could be the swelling or the beard, but your bigonial width was already ~91% in the before, which was already wide. I calculate ~95% now, which is borderline uncanny "box-like" territory.
Yes, but bimax is not going to make your jaw wider
I got you. I'm going to shave my beard off tomorrow and see for myself. I stressed this concern with my surgeon when planning the design (it being too wide) and he assured me that it would be fine. My neck is pretty narrow which doesn't help (I'm still working on that). My UEE is weird because it shows in pictures when I don't have my contacts in and have to squint to see my phone screen instead of of looking into the camera, but when I have my contacts in and look straight, it not very noticeable. I'm thinking about just doing fat grafts in the future
The thing with the eye area is that it can look different depending on the angle you take the picture. Make sure the camera is at eye level, 3-6 feet away (Can do the mirror), and make sure your head is at a neutral tilt. If you have excessive UEE doing that, then it is 100% a problem.
