4 month gear+peptide ascension and what i would've done differently

[soov]

Spoiler: may

Physique here may have been slightly early, april or something. Either way I was recovering from a broken finger so my physique was extra dogshit.

Spoiler: august

This is all the stupid and reckless shit I did. It yielded unsustainable results and I've since descended a bit. I'll outline everything I did wrong and everything I'll do right for my next cycle.

	Sustanon	Anavar	GH	Tren E	Ghk Cu	Melanotan II
Weeks 1-4	250mg	25mg	0iu	0mg	0mg	0
Weeks 5-8	250mg	25mg	3iu	0mg	0mg	0
Weeks 9-12	500mg	0mg	3iu	0mg	1mg	forgot exact amount
Weeks 13-16	500mg	50mg	4iu	200mg	1mg	forgot exact amount

Reasons I'm retarded

• Didn't do any research, just started blasting shit, my chest and entire back got absolutely plastered in acne which took 3 months to get rid of, I'm extremely lucky I didn't get more sides. Lack of research also led to me buying bunk gh.
• Diet consisted of around 2200 calories a day, which was a completely arbitrary number, I didn't know what my goal was so I was unable to craft any steps to get there. The food itself was low quality processed junk, didn't pay any mind to micronutrients.
• Didn't consider the financial impacts of this, I ran out of money sooner than expected which led to my subsequent descension.
• Didn't do bloodwork, was fucking around with letrozole which led to a noticeable estrogen crash, joints started to hurt and my skin was insanely dry.
• Even though I still looked better at the end of the cycle, I could've looked FAR better, and held onto the facial and physique gains better than I did.

New plan

• It's worth noting I'm still decently retarded and new to lm (have had my account for a while but never touched it) so help me out if you can. I'll be running 500mcg of Hcg weekly throughout this cycle to help with PCT and keep my balls in fettle.
• Goal is to shred while retaining maximum muscle. Test is low because running any higher won't produce significant gains once receptors saturate and will only cause estrogen problems that will result in expensive primo to deal with, I'll adjust primo depending on e2 on bloodwork. This list doesn't include support supps like fish oil, nac, magnesium etc...
• Diet will consist of clean foods, strict 2200 calories a day, 45g fat, 180g protein, 270g carbs.
• Secured reliable suppliers for everything listed.
• Entire PCT protocol isn't included, but enclo will begin at 12.5 and end at 3.25 daily over a course of 6-8 weeks. GH should help retain muscle during PCT.
• Currently working out how I want to include accutane, minoxidil, selank, and a couple other supps.

	Test E	Anavar	Primo E	GH	Reta	Melanotan II	Ghk Cu	Enclomiphene
Weeks 1-8	250mg	25mg	400mg	4iu	1mg	250mcg	1mg	0mg
Weeks 9-16	250mg	0mg	400mg	4iu	2mg	250mcg	1mg	0mg
Weeks 17-24	250mg	50mg	400mg	4iu	3mg	250mcg	1mg	0mg
Weeks 25-32	0mg	0mg	0mg	6iu	4mg	250mcg	1mg	12.5mg -> 3.25mg

 

[aids]

"my plan was shit heres an even shitter plan"

 

[soov]

"my plan was shit heres an even shitter plan"

Do you have any suggestions to make it less shit

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

you look a lot better without even leaning out your face all the way yet, which would lead to the most drastic final transformation. gj op

 

[aids]

Do you have any suggestions to make it less shit

Yeh don't use AI for literally every thing ever? Dipshitticus bruh.

 

[bolinha]

Do you have any suggestions to make it less shit

bro yours not so shit mine so worse

 

[hej1377]

Do you have any suggestions to make it less shit

Primo e has a way longer half life than test e, youre gonna end up with no test and just primo for a while, 0 e2 youre gonna be a bld retard

Primo is pretty shit for looksmaxers to begin with

Up the gh

Up the test

The anavar doses looks so weird, i wouldnt even put anavar, id say maybe eq would look good there but im a bit of an eq glazer

Ghk-cu dose is comical, up that shit

Add hcg

You can titrate reta a bit faster

But i just read the table and dnr'ed the text, cant be fucked to read it

 

[soov]

Yeh don't use AI for literally every thing ever? Dipshitticus bruh.

Thank you. this suggestion will surely make me a chad

 

[soov]

Primo e has a way longer half life than test e, youre gonna end up with no test and just primo for a while, 0 e2 youre gonna be a bld retard

Primo is pretty shit for looksmaxers to begin with

Up the gh

Up the test

The anavar doses looks so weird, i wouldnt even put anavar, id say maybe eq would look good there but im a bit of an eq glazer

Ghk-cu dose is comical, up that shit

Add hcg

You can titrate reta a bit faster

thank you. i put anavar there because i find i respond well to it, in terms of replacing with eq there's a similar issue to the primo where the half life is long, i may keep anavar for the first 4 weeks as a kickstarter for gains, then stop and let eq do the rest of the work.

i'll up the ghkcu.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Spoiler: may

View attachment 4599344View attachment 4599350 Physique here may have been slightly early, april or something. Either way I was recovering from a broken finger so my physique was extra dogshit.

Spoiler: august

View attachment 4599348View attachment 4599351

This is all the stupid and reckless shit I did. It yielded unsustainable results and I've since descended a bit. I'll outline everything I did wrong and everything I'll do right for my next cycle.

	Sustanon	Anavar	GH	Tren E	Ghk Cu	Melanotan II
Weeks 1-4	250mg	25mg	0iu	0mg	0mg	0
Weeks 5-8	250mg	25mg	3iu	0mg	0mg	0
Weeks 9-12	500mg	0mg	3iu	0mg	1mg	forgot exact amount
Weeks 13-16	500mg	50mg	4iu	200mg	1mg	forgot exact amount

Reasons I'm retarded

• Didn't do any research, just started blasting shit, my chest and entire back got absolutely plastered in acne which took 3 months to get rid of, I'm extremely lucky I didn't get more sides. Lack of research also led to me buying bunk gh.
• Diet consisted of around 2200 calories a day, which was a completely arbitrary number, I didn't know what my goal was so I was unable to craft any steps to get there. The food itself was low quality processed junk, didn't pay any mind to micronutrients.
• Didn't consider the financial impacts of this, I ran out of money sooner than expected which led to my subsequent descension.
• Didn't do bloodwork, was fucking around with letrozole which led to a noticeable estrogen crash, joints started to hurt and my skin was insanely dry.
• Even though I still looked better at the end of the cycle, I could've looked FAR better, and held onto the facial and physique gains better than I did.

New plan

• It's worth noting I'm still decently retarded and new to lm (have had my account for a while but never touched it) so help me out if you can. I'll be running 500mcg of Hcg weekly throughout this cycle to help with PCT and keep my balls in fettle.
• Goal is to shred while retaining maximum muscle. Test is low because running any higher won't produce significant gains once receptors saturate and will only cause estrogen problems that will result in expensive primo to deal with, I'll adjust primo depending on e2 on bloodwork. This list doesn't include support supps like fish oil, nac, magnesium etc...
• Diet will consist of clean foods, strict 2200 calories a day, 45g fat, 180g protein, 270g carbs.
• Secured reliable suppliers for everything listed.
• Entire PCT protocol isn't included, but enclo will begin at 12.5 and end at 3.25 daily over a course of 6-8 weeks. GH should help retain muscle during PCT.
• Currently working out how I want to include accutane, minoxidil, selank, and a couple other supps.

	Test E	Anavar	Primo E	GH	Reta	Melanotan II	Ghk Cu	Enclomiphene
Weeks 1-8	250mg	25mg	400mg	4iu	1mg	250mcg	1mg	0mg
Weeks 9-16	250mg	0mg	400mg	4iu	2mg	250mcg	1mg	0mg
Weeks 17-24	250mg	50mg	400mg	4iu	3mg	250mcg	1mg	0mg
Weeks 25-32	0mg	0mg	0mg	6iu	4mg	250mcg	1mg	12.5mg -> 3.25mg

scrap the primo and run EQ or mast instead

bump up test to 500-600 and run eq at 300-400 or mast 200-400


anavar 50mg for 8 weeks somewhere in there if u want


u dont need to run melanotan for that long JFL bro you'll turn black in like 4 weeks pinning and tanning 3x a week

reta week 1 do 0.5mg, week 2 1mg, week 3 2.5mg, then stay on that dose or go no higher than 5mg


32 weeks a little fucking long dont u think eh? id say 16-20 weeks, and then cruise at 200mg test

 

[soov]

scrap the primo and run EQ or mast instead

bump up test to 500-600 and run eq at 300-400 or mast 200-400


anavar 50mg for 8 weeks somewhere in there if u want


u dont need to run melanotan for that long JFL bro you'll turn black in like 4 weeks pinning and tanning 3x a week

reta week 1 do 0.5mg, week 2 1mg, week 3 2.5mg, then stay on that dose or go no higher than 5mg


32 weeks a little fucking long dont u think eh? id say 16-20 weeks, and then cruise at 200mg test

I included up to 32 weeks as that's when pct and everything will be done. i've heard good things about mast but haven't looked into a ton but i will now. i've had a couple people tell me to bump up the test so i'll do that for sure.

as for the mt2, once i reach my desired tan i'll probably only pin 2 very low doses a week to maintain, i don't get a lot of sun and uv index usually caps out at 5 or 6 where i'm at.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

I included up to 32 weeks as that's when pct and everything will be done. i've heard good things about mast but haven't looked into a ton but i will now. i've had a couple people tell me to bump up the test so i'll do that for sure.

as for the mt2, once i reach my desired tan i'll probably only pin 2 very low doses a week to maintain, i don't get a lot of sun and uv index usually caps out at 5 or 6 where i'm at.

mast is good for androgenicity, will add onto your dimorphism well if your hair can tolerate it its def worth it

EQ is a great option if you wanna be hair safe

you need the test to be higher than eq/mast/primo because they dont aromatise and you need some e2 for neuroprotection and other health functions (including penis)

as for what you said for mt2, that'll work great