~5'10 is the worst height

[ThatsWhatsUp]

During the night you fall off a bit and with the amount of 6'+ sometimes you feel real short

Considering CLL 2" when the time allows it. Around 25 now but the concerns include high price and risk

In the future (in like 10 years) 5'11 will be the new average for young people (then), up from 5'10 now

 

[Pietrosiek]

Yyyyy ok

 

[LookistWorld]

No self respecting doctor will perform LL on someone who's 5'10". You'll need to get leg shortening surgery first (about 3 inches), then go back and get 6 inches of LL.

 

[ThatsWhatsUp]

No self respecting doctor will perform LL on someone who's 5'10". You'll need to get leg shortening surgery first (about 3 inches), then go back and get 6 inches of LL.

Ayy, lol, nice one
For real though, CLL of up to 2 inches is considered the safest. On top of not looking disproportionate. Equal to me now wearing Air Max with 1.5 inch insole
The question is will it be worth it?
Feels like my real competition in clubs on average is same height to be and Chads are like 2" higher, which would defo help to stand out more

 

[BigBiceps]

In the future (in like 10 years) 5'11 will be the new average for young people (then), up from 5'10 now

Young guys are probably 6ft average already

 

[Deleted member 4563]

5'11 average in the future? 6'3 in teenagers is average here.

 

[onnysk]

6'1 is the average now especially with anyone below 6'0 not leaving their house

 

[Deleted member 3990]

5'11 average in the future? 6'3 in teenagers is average here.

they need to cope with that height

With 6ft I am average amongst late teen boys

 

[Deleted member 4563]

they need to cope with that height

With 6ft I am average amongst late teen boys

The country's official is 6'0 but it goes that past that height in zoomers

 

[turkproducer]

Young guys are probably 6ft average already

it’s more like 5’11 for everywhere apart from the netherlands and bosnia and maybe a few other countries

 

[Deleted member 209]

what about lower heights?

 

[Deleted member 3990]

it’s more like 5’11 for everywhere apart from the netherlands and bosnia and maybe a few other countries

Germany

 

[Deleted member 39]

No self respecting doctor will perform LL on someone who's 5'10". You'll need to get leg shortening surgery first (about 3 inches), then go back and get 6 inches of LL.

Paley performs on average people

 

[turkproducer]

@OCDMaxxing is gonna get LL at 6’2]

 

[AbandonShip]

Germany

Average height varies a lot in germany from region to region.
Hamburg is the tallest at 6'1" average for young people.
Shortest is Thüringen at 5'9" average

 

[SayNoToRotting]

No self respecting doctor will perform LL on someone who's 5'10". You'll need to get leg shortening surgery first (about 3 inches), then go back and get 6 inches of LL.

Is that actually how that works? It's not satire?

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Is that actually how that works? It's not satire?

if you take different surgeons it may actually work

 

[Deleted member 1751]

Any height is bad comparing to taller guys and every height is good comparing to shorter guye

 

[SayNoToRotting]

if you take different surgeons it may actually work

My question was whether you can actually get LL to 6' as a 5'6 person, but not get LL at all as a 5'10, all by the same surgeon.

 

[Deleted member 3990]

My question was whether you can actually get LL to 6' as a 5'6 person, but not get LL at all as a 5'10, all by the same surgeon.

depends on surgeon

"You are tall enough already" or "That much extension is way too much"

 

[KEy21]

How is it the “worst height” ??

It’s better than literally any height shorter than it.

 

[needsolution]

No self respecting doctor will perform LL on someone who's 5'10". You'll need to get leg shortening surgery first (about 3 inches), then go back and get 6 inches of LL.

Best surgeons will do it.

 

[fakemeta.]

How is it the “worst height” ??

It’s better than literally any height shorter than it.

cope, you're better off being 5'4 than 5'10 that is a fact

 

[TsarTsar444]

Young guys are probably 6ft average already

That not how anything of this works...
The reason humans were shorter in the past was because of severe malnutrition that happened during the middle ages and it accelerated during the minor ice ages in those times. Once a whole generation goes from little scarcity of food to plentiful food the next generation immediately gets 100% it's genetic limit height and if conditions are good it will continue to be like this. For instance the Netherlands were 163cm on average 250 years ago, but as industries developed family by family were reaching its genetic limit until 20th century where the dutch reached their limit and it will no longer increase because the good conditions are all already met.

The average height of a roman legionary from Ceasers time was 170cm, barely shorter then todays 175cm height in Italy (except the north which aren't even genetically italics but celts and germans).

Albania is a good example of this, the country is the shortest in Europe 174cm, but Kosovo just in one generation average is 180cm, both countries are 95% Albanian. Thats because Albanians in Albania experienced severe malnutrition during it's history while kosovar albanians got much better conditions

 

[KEy21]

cope, you're better off being 5'4 than 5'10 that is a fact

 

[Deleted member 4209]

under 6'3 and under 6 psl = consider roping

 

[ThatsWhatsUp]

Some selective replies to keep the cop... convo going.

Any height is bad comparing to taller guys and every height is good comparing to shorter guye

I'd then say that it's necessary to be 75th percentile of the height among the younger guys height (who are taller than the rest) to be comfortably attractive. No need to be 95th percentile lanklet. This is to say no need to be at the extremes. Average is not the best but highest height is not the most optimal either.

How is it the “worst height” ??

It’s better than literally any height shorter than it.

At 5'9 and less you know it's over, but at 5'10 it's like you have a chance. At 5'11 with even Air Max to for a 1" fraud I'd then be 6, which is 6'1 in the eyes of others and normally acceptable to be solid attractive. Always see most of the guys slightly taller than me with girls

That not how anything of this works...
The reason humans were shorter in the past was because of severe malnutrition that happened during the middle ages and it accelerated during the minor ice ages in those times. Once a whole generation goes from little scarcity of food to plentiful food the next generation immediately gets 100% it's genetic limit height and if conditions are good it will continue to be like this. For instance the Netherlands were 163cm on average 250 years ago, but as industries developed family by family were reaching its genetic limit until 20th century where the dutch reached their limit and it will no longer increase because the good conditions are all already met.

The average height of a roman legionary from Ceasers time was 170cm, barely shorter then todays 175cm height in Italy (except the north which aren't even genetically italics but celts and germans).

Albania is a good example of this, the country is the shortest in Europe 174cm, but Kosovo just in one generation average is 180cm, both countries are 95% Albanian. Thats because Albanians in Albania experienced severe malnutrition during it's history while kosovar albanians got much better conditions

I also like to add that not only nutrition but after women have a choice to select better looking and TALLER men as of recently most Tinder era more and more short guys are being eliminated from the dating pool. So not only people are reaching genetic limits (which I doubt with still a big proportion playing video games and eating fast food a lot) but also mostly taller people breeding

under 6'3 and under 6 psl = consider roping

satire. one thing is to be god, other is being sufficiently physically adept to be nt. inb4 napoleon syndrome at the gym - JFL at short bald guys acting "AlPhA"

-end my 2c
obv 5 10 not worst but its just a fraction from being comfortable for real with height
and yh stats say for 20s avg height in western countries is 5'10-5'10.5. some are less at 5'9 some at 5'11 but defo not 6. maybe if you go prestigious uni then yeah 6 or 6'1 (cause ppl then maybe frauding too)

 

[Chadelite]

Young guys are probably 6ft average already

more like 6ft 8

 

[Deleted member 4209]

satire. one thing is to be god, other is being sufficiently physically adept to be nt. inb4 napoleon syndrome at the gym - JFL at short bald guys acting "AlPhA"

 

[TsarTsar444]

Some selective replies to keep the cop... convo going.


I'd then say that it's necessary to be 75th percentile of the height among the younger guys height (who are taller than the rest) to be comfortably attractive. No need to be 95th percentile lanklet. This is to say no need to be at the extremes. Average is not the best but highest height is not the most optimal either.

At 5'9 and less you know it's over, but at 5'10 it's like you have a chance. At 5'11 with even Air Max to for a 1" fraud I'd then be 6, which is 6'1 in the eyes of others and normally acceptable to be solid attractive. Always see most of the guys slightly taller than me with girls

I also like to add that not only nutrition but after women have a choice to select better looking and TALLER men as of recently most Tinder era more and more short guys are being eliminated from the dating pool. So not only people are reaching genetic limits (which I doubt with still a big proportion playing video games and eating fast food a lot) but also mostly taller people breeding

satire. one thing is to be god, other is being sufficiently physically adept to be nt. inb4 napoleon syndrome at the gym - JFL at short bald guys acting "AlPhA"

-end my 2c
obv 5 10 not worst but its just a fraction from being comfortable for real with height
and yh stats say for 20s avg height in western countries is 5'10-5'10.5. some are less at 5'9 some at 5'11 but defo not 6. maybe if you go prestigious uni then yeah 6 or 6'1 (cause ppl then maybe frauding too)

Tinder era is a meme in the majority world, less then 5% of people use it in Eastern Europe lol, and if anything newer generation will be getting shorter because of female hypergamy. Let's say a 5'1 has a child with a 6'1 guy, the male child has a much higher chance of being shorter then the father so effectively worsening his genetic offsprings. I noticed that older couples were much more height mached and thats why we got a good chunk of taller people, nowdays you find the obnoxious memes of genetically week 5'1 midgets wanting 5'11+ guys and the males cuckishly accept it and have children with these gnomes. I literally get height mogged much more from boomers then i do by my peers.

Also the increase of estrogens in everyday items especially water makes for faster closure of male growth plates

 

[ThatsWhatsUp]

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Thank you for proving my point

Tinder era is a meme in the majority world, less then 5% of people use it in Eastern Europe lol, and if anything newer generation will be getting shorter because of female hypergamy. Let's say a 5'1 has a child with a 6'1 guy, the male child has a much higher chance of being shorter then the father so effectively worsening his genetic offsprings. I noticed that older couples were much more height mached and thats why we got a good chunk of taller people, nowdays you find the obnoxious memes of genetically week 5'1 midgets wanting 5'11+ guys and the males cuckishly accept it and have children with these gnomes. I literally get height mogged much more from boomers then i do by my peers.

Also the increase of estrogens in everyday items especially water makes for faster closure of male growth plates

Great, good to hear. Around 25 now and was preparing to combat the next generation. Best women are always around 20 and my concern was getting more competition. Good to know that it's not so bad

 

[Alexanderr]

In the future (in like 10 years) 5'11 will be the new average for young people

It already is in some countries in Europe and where I live 6’0 is.

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

average height for caucasian males is 6'2 imo ngl. im 6'1 and get mogged as soon as i leave mother's basement it is the reason i rarely leave the house tbh ngl

 

[turkproducer]

Some selective replies to keep the cop... convo going.


I'd then say that it's necessary to be 75th percentile of the height among the younger guys height (who are taller than the rest) to be comfortably attractive. No need to be 95th percentile lanklet. This is to say no need to be at the extremes. Average is not the best but highest height is not the most optimal either.

At 5'9 and less you know it's over, but at 5'10 it's like you have a chance. At 5'11 with even Air Max to for a 1" fraud I'd then be 6, which is 6'1 in the eyes of others and normally acceptable to be solid attractive. Always see most of the guys slightly taller than me with girls

I also like to add that not only nutrition but after women have a choice to select better looking and TALLER men as of recently most Tinder era more and more short guys are being eliminated from the dating pool. So not only people are reaching genetic limits (which I doubt with still a big proportion playing video games and eating fast food a lot) but also mostly taller people breeding

satire. one thing is to be god, other is being sufficiently physically adept to be nt. inb4 napoleon syndrome at the gym - JFL at short bald guys acting "AlPhA"

-end my 2c
obv 5 10 not worst but its just a fraction from being comfortable for real with height
and yh stats say for 20s avg height in western countries is 5'10-5'10.5. some are less at 5'9 some at 5'11 but defo not 6. maybe if you go prestigious uni then yeah 6 or 6'1 (cause ppl then maybe frauding too)

i’m 5’9 on a good morning and i’m fat and i do fine with women lol.

ofc the shorter u are the better ur face is, i’d say bare minimum is 3 shorter below average with exceptional face...

 

[Deleted member 773]

What are you going to do when you leg length to 6’1, endure excruciating pain, and still see 5’8 dudes pulling more pussy than you?

 

[LookistWorld]

What are you going to do when you leg length to 6’1, endure excruciating pain, and still see 5’8 dudes pulling more pussy than you?

Can't be read but you get the idea

 

[ThatsWhatsUp]

It already is in some countries in Europe and where I live 6’0 is.

I'd say the misconception comes from the fact that shorter dudes go out less. However, the "real" competition is more important, so I agree. However, I still doubt that 6'0 is that average. Maybe, morning height. 5'11 would be closer to the truth, unless in an exceptionally "tall" area, like a uni or some bs

average height for caucasian males is 6'2 imo ngl. im 6'1 and get mogged as soon as i leave mother's basement it is the reason i rarely leave the house tbh ngl

Satire. I'm around 75th percentile here incl frauding and I only notice taller guys, confirmation bias (feeling like average at best when I see someone tall). Obv, in clubs it gets worse

i’m 5’9 on a good morning and i’m fat and i do fine with women lol.

ofc the shorter u are the better ur face is, i’d say bare minimum is 3 shorter below average with exceptional face...

Agreed about the face. The issue with face it's easier just to be tall than to take care of one's face. And I'm talking that without taking care face goes down then height stays the same

What are you going to do when you leg length to 6’1, endure excruciating pain, and still see 5’8 dudes pulling more pussy than you?

I guess it's psychological thing, neurosis if you may. 5'8 - doubt. With 4-5cm I would then be 181-182 day height, which is minimally perfect for me. One thing is being average, other thing is being average in eyes of women
And don't start with 5'8 Tom Cruise BS, pls. Most of the short people fail miserably. Stats exist for a reason. Taller men are more like to become CEOs and fathers

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Can't be read but you get the idea

Face is not the biggest issue but I agree for the others. I was rated average+ with face and was told hair was putting me down, after HT and getting LASIK to get rid of the glasses I should be feeling better in this department. Maybe, just maybe, those two procedures will help and I can put CLL away for a while
Still trying to understand how important is height
Will report when I finish my current transformations and how it affected my success

 

[Alexanderr]

I'd say the misconception comes from the fact that shorter dudes go out less. However, the "real" competition is more important, so I agree. However, I still doubt that 6'0 is that average. Maybe, morning height. 5'11 would be closer to the truth, unless in an exceptionally "tall" area, like a uni or some bs

6’0 isn’t that average, just in the Netherlands and some few other select countries in Europe like Germany and Norway.

 

[ThatsWhatsUp]

6’0 isn’t that average, just in the Netherlands and some few other select countries in Europe like Germany and Norway.

There was a study in Harvard and average height was 5'10.5
That's for rich people with healthy parents and good diets, as well as being active
We're hitting genetic limits
In Holland I believe what's happening women are just going for taller men and all the short ones die out, but that's selective as you see not many countries can brag a solid 5'11 among the younger population. And by height usually they take doctor's measurement, which is done in the morning and the height will drop by another 0.5" to your afternoon/evening height
I believe biggest issue is confirmation bias and people frauding. In my country you can NOT buy shoes without big soles
This is why people who are 6' solid feel average cos they only mog 2/3 of the younger population, disregard all the old, and when they see a tall guy 6'3+ (~1-5/100 total) they feel short

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Satire. I'm around 75th percentile here incl frauding and I only notice taller guys, confirmation bias (feeling like average at best when I see someone tall). Obv, in clubs it gets worse

cope. 6'1 is manlet tier