6'4 and 18. Wanting to start 20mg var and test.

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Ive done research for most of the stuff that is needed to know on how to start the cycle, how to maintain a good cycle and how to get off cycle and what to do in general when on substances like those but i still feel somewhat lost so any help would be appreciated there on letting me know any info's about a cycle like that. What test to implement, what AI's for off and on cycle, how to take them and what would be an ideal first cycle because it would be my first time on gear. Other suggestions about different gear or what i could change to make the cycle better would also be appreciated.
 
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You've done research yet don't know the most rudimentary shit :feelsyay:
Test p or test e depending on how often you can pin.
Why the fuck would you need an AI off-cycle?
Dosage depends on what you're running.
If you actually did DYOR, you would know the answers to these questions. Don't be a lazy cunt and hop on the steroids fad just cause you've seen more discourse on it recently.
 
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You've done research yet don't know the most rudimentary shit :feelsyay:
Test p or test e depending on how often you can pin.
Why the fuck would you need an AI off-cycle?
Dosage depends on what you're running.
If you actually did DYOR, you would know the answers to these questions. Don't be a lazy cunt and hop on the steroids fad just cause you've seen more discourse on it recently.
Ive actually read your responses to some other guy and know my shit off your responses ive basically just wanted to see if there is something i do not know. For AI off cycle i guess i was misinformed then my bad. I know test p saturates faster so it is an obvious choice. And for off the cycle i was trying to know what to do to not fuck my hormones or my health in general after it.
 
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Ive actually read your responses to some other guy and know my shit off your responses ive basically just wanted to see if there is something i do not know. For AI off cycle i guess i was misinformed then my bad. I know test p saturates faster so it is an obvious choice. And for off the cycle i was trying to know what to do to not fuck my hormones or my health in general after it.
Fair play then if you've read some stuff I say but don't rely on it nor should this website be your one-stop shop for information.

You don't need AI off-cycle unless you're planning on delaying epiphyseal plate closure which is something irrespective of steroids.
So let's make the assumption that you're not using any compounds outside of being a part of this cycle, or an ancillary to:

Use a steroidal AI like Aromasin.
If you can (ideally) pin every day, or at least every other day, run test p, because yes, it saturates faster due to being the shortest ester of testosterone outside of acetate which is not as available. If you can't pin every other day at least, then just run test e and inject as frequently as you can.
Realistically, at 300-400mg of test p/e, you might not even need an AI, but just take 6.25mg EOD if you notice symptoms of high E2, which if you are going to, will be around week 3. Stop using it if the symptoms are no longer apparent.
This is commonly-debated but I personally believe that you should run PCT.
You could run this as your cycle:
12-16 weeks of test p/e. Definitely run 16 weeks if test e. Say 300mg/week of test p or 350-400mg/week of test e.
Anavar at 20mg/day for the final 8 weeks of your cycle (5-12 or 9-16), since you want to be able to learn how to deal with potential side effects of testosterone standalone and so you can know what side effect to attribute to what compound.
For the last 4 weeks, HCG at 750IU/week.
Enclo at 25mg/day for 4 weeks post-cycle.

You can also run NAC/TUDCA alongside Anavar to minimise hepatotoxicity but it's a well-tolerated compound anyway, especially at that dose. You'll be fine either way.
 
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Fair play then if you've read some stuff I say but don't rely on it nor should this website be your one-stop shop for information.

You don't need AI off-cycle unless you're planning on delaying epiphyseal plate closure which is something irrespective of steroids.
So let's make the assumption that you're not using any compounds outside of being a part of this cycle, or an ancillary to:

Use a steroidal AI like Aromasin.
If you can (ideally) pin every day, or at least every other day, run test p, because yes, it saturates faster due to being the shortest ester of testosterone outside of acetate which is not as available. If you can't pin every other day at least, then just run test e and inject as frequently as you can.
Realistically, at 300-400mg of test p/e, you might not even need an AI, but just take 6.25mg EOD if you notice symptoms of high E2, which if you are going to, will be around week 3. Stop using it if the symptoms are no longer apparent.
This is commonly-debated but I personally believe that you should run PCT.
You could run this as your cycle:
12-16 weeks of test p/e. Definitely run 16 weeks if test e. Say 300mg/week of test p or 350-400mg/week of test e.
Anavar at 20mg/day for the final 8 weeks of your cycle (5-12 or 9-16), since you want to be able to learn how to deal with potential side effects of testosterone standalone and so you can know what side effect to attribute to what compound.
For the last 4 weeks, HCG at 750IU/week.
Enclo at 25mg/day for 4 weeks post-cycle.

You can also run NAC/TUDCA alongside Anavar to minimise hepatotoxicity but it's a well-tolerated compound anyway, especially at that dose. You'll be fine either way.
Thanks for the help, ill update the thread or make another one when i start my journey.
 
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