97% Of Footballers Or In General Sports Players Are Just Glorified Beta Buxxers (Ethnicpill addon, dnr long post)

[InanimatePragmatist]

I have always seen all of these young men cope with many things but a pattern I have always seen was the average kid, regardless of race; always thinking they can become some famous player in any sport or become a well known MMA player. It is cute but that is all it is is. Cute, everytime I hear such ambitions in young men I just feel like a nursery teacher listening to the class toddlers talking about how they wish to be an astronaut or some other bigger than life ambition. Seeing all of these young MTN or LTN boys dreaming on and on yet that is the issue, what does life literally matter when you are a dreamer? Why have dreams when they are not real?

That is one of the things I wanted to bring up in regards to this topic. Mostly how most men really believe they are more than what they are. Some people here call me arrogant which I can accept but I never called myself more than all life, I am an idea. I just choose to not lie to myself or you and it is why you hate me. I hate mankind for being two faced and cruel for no purpose beyond thin amusement. Now back to the topic.

Why do so many of you lot forget the price of being a rich man? Every woman who goes for you, is going for your status. Not you, not your face, not your faith, not your passion and more than surely not your person. Maybe once you get into a marriage they will tolerate you and maybe even pity you but out of amusement, not genuine pity. You are a useful idiot just like every other rich man who is not NT, tall, attractive. You are better off blue pilled, at least you can trick yourself into believing that women actually want you more than what you have in your pockets. I am wrong? Am I wrong? Is the reflection truly wrong? Then let me ask you, if no woman ever gave you the time of day in your past, then why will it change with money and status? Yes, let those two dots connect sooner already to see the futility of connection and feeling, it has no value with such people. If you can already see life for what it is, you either have two choices. You either go down the path of clarity and lose everything you hold dear or you turn back and live a further lie and die comfy. No inbetweens, there was only left or right, no middle.

In the end, all of your favourite sports figures have women only for being rich and well known. Nothing more, if they did not that have that? They would be no better than you, they would only have the ego to punt a ball around for no purpose in life and for no reason. Welcome to reality, dreaming is a cancer for people who have a spine.

 

[HowToBasic]

Can you talk in pm?

 

[el hit]

dnr

 

[el hit]

shouldve given a tldr

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Can you talk in pm?

Sure.

 

[ybuyhgui]

I only half agree with you on this, once you get to the real and true top tier status levels that these guys are sometimes at, it can become ‘true desire’ in a way similar to looks in my opinion. Every woman who attends drake concerts would get wetter for him than for chad if he were to take advantage of his status and pre-selection. If that’s not ‘true desire’ then what is?

Although, this level of status is absolutely un-reachable for practically every human, your typical celebrity, millionaire, or even billionaire will not experience real desire from status or money, only the select few with status so profound that it can genuinely counteract the lookspill to an extent. My opinion on this anyway, changes a lot tbh.

 

[VohnnyBoy]

Every woman who goes for you, is going for your status. Not you, not your face, not your faith, not your passion and more than surely not your person.

What does being loved "for you" even mean?
(Romantic) Relationships are reciprocal. Whenever you're used for you looks, money, emotional support you give... doesn't really matter if the ultimate goal of yours is to slay. Desiring to be used for your looks is just as shallow as desiring to be used for money.

once you get to the real and true top tier status levels that these guys are sometimes at, it can become ‘true desire’ in a way similar to looks in my opinion.

Pre-selection occurs even without fame/money/status. These are just amplifiers

Anecdote:
I knew this 4.5/10 looking guy, average height, frame, social class.... basically uglyish average Joe... That man had the highest bodycount in our high school. As far as I'm aware, he slayed at least 15 girls in a span of 4 years (LTB-LHTB range). Whenever asked, girls who slept with him would claim how he was charismatic, seductive, confident, had positive energy.... just metaphysical shit.

A woman wants whatever other women want to sum it up. That Jeremy Allen White commercial is the textbook example of it

 

[ybuyhgui]

Pre-selection occurs even without fame/money/status. These are just amplifiers

Pre-selection is always looks/money/status. The example you’re about to give falls under ‘status’.

That man had the highest bodycount in our high school.

Key word ‘high school’. That shit is quite literally a social popularity competition. The laws of the bp do not convert 1:1 to high school, in a microcosm like that, being ‘the social guy’ can push you up to a level equal to the status OP refers to, because it’s within a fixed bubble - unlike the real world, where women know their options, and the game becomes less about males competing with each other socially (because they’ll never even be in contact with one another) and almost completely about looks, I say ‘almost’ because you could theoretically (not possible 99.999% of the time) reach the top of top tier societal status and garner ‘real desire’ from status as an adult much like you could in high school.

A woman wants whatever other women want to sum it up. That Jeremy Allen White commercial is the textbook example of it

And women want either looks, or elite status.

Or they’ll settle for oofy doofy.

 

[ybuyhgui]

Desiring to be used for your looks is just as shallow as desiring to be used for money.

Absolutely not. A woman will fantasize over you, and truly love or lust for you and your offspring if you have the looks. Your money makes you a wallet, a wallet that she cheats on with chad, the man truly loves. Nobody is ‘used’ for their looks, looks and love are practically synonyms (outside of having either top 0.0001% status, or high school echo chamber status like you mentioned).

I question how someone with such a falsified redpilled perspective on this aspect of dating even ended up here? Have you been watching too much YBCtoocold? JFL.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

What does being loved "for you" even mean?
(Romantic) Relationships are reciprocal. Whenever you're used for you looks, money, emotional support you give... doesn't really matter if the ultimate goal of yours is to slay. Desiring to be used for your looks is just as shallow as desiring to be used for money.

Pre-selection occurs even without fame/money/status. These are just amplifiers

Anecdote:
I knew this 4.5/10 looking guy, average height, frame, social class.... basically uglyish average Joe... That man had the highest bodycount in our high school. As far as I'm aware, he slayed at least 15 girls in a span of 4 years (LTB-LHTB range). Whenever asked, girls who slept with him would claim how he was charismatic, seductive, confident, had positive energy.... just metaphysical shit.

A woman wants whatever other women want to sum it up. That Jeremy Allen White commercial is the textbook example of it

Slaying is the most pathetic state of a man. What is the point of bragging about sex when you do not even reproduce or even create a legacy? So genetically and by nature's standards you are doing this for nothing, likewise societally and socially. There is no respect for such people, only people who behave like animals like this.

No one amount laying with broken whores will repair that hole in your chest, let alone will it make you better. Only more empty, the more you do it.

 

[SoundnVision]

Water

 

[VohnnyBoy]

Pre-selection is always looks/money/status. The example you’re about to give falls under ‘status’.

Pretty much, being considered "popular ladies man" is a status halo. Bad phrasing on my behalf
I've meant you don't have to possess famous rich celebrity tier status for it's halo to occur in such small circle of people like small towns or schools for an example are.

unlike the real world, where women know their options, and the game becomes less about males competing with each other socially (because they’ll never even be in contact with one another) and almost completely about looks

The average woman doesn't have 10 Chads in her DMs (arguably even in urban areas), neither is willing to travel half across the globe to meet up with them. Chad is not going for her neither.
Her options are limited to her vicinity and the distance she's willing to travel for her best option. That's when factors like status, being her type, proximity... kicks in. Saying looks=everything is just delusion

A woman will fantasize over you, and truly love and lust for you and your offspring if you have the looks.

Therefore using you for your good genes. That's still not "le unconditional love".
Again I completely understand "looks = purest attraction" narrative, but one of my schizo theories is that we define sexual attraction as the most legitimate form of attraction solely because of a sensual pleasure we get from kissing, hugging, fucking.... which give us the highest form of pleasure outside drugs ofc

Your money makes you a wallet, a wallet that she cheats on with chad, the man truly loves

So what if she cheats on? Cheat on her too and dump her. Should be water on here to never pair bond with a woman and always prepare yourself for the worst no matter your looks rate

I question how someone with such a falsified redpilled perspective on this aspect of dating even ended up here? Have you been watching too much YBCtoocold? JFL.

Just love playing devil's advocate, I don't have definite stances. I'm more than willing to change my perspective, that's the main reason I've even made account on this shithole

 

[ybuyhgui]

The average woman doesn't have 10 Chads in her DMs, neither is willing to travel half across the globe to meet up with them. Chad is not going for her neither.
Her options are limited to her vicinity and the distance she's willing to travel for her best option. That's when factors like status, being her type, proximity... kicks in. Saying looks=everything is just delusion

But how does your point here dispute the lookspill at all? Just because she doesn’t have access to chads? She’ll still be most attracted to the best looking option. Chad is practically a synonym for ‘good looking man’ i’m not referring to the autist 1/10000 definition that we have on this forum necessarily. I already gave my take on ‘status’ post high school, ‘type’ is also pretty much just lookism lol. I don’t see how your argument here opposes that looks are everything.

Therefore using you for your good genes. That's still not "le unconditional love".

True, not sure where I was going with that tbh. We’re all selfish, but with looks, you’re wanted, as opposed to your money. The loyalty, love, whatever, lies with you, not a foreign object, that’s the difference.

one of my schizo theories is that we define sexual attraction as the most legitimate form of attraction solely because of a sensual pleasure we get from kissing, hugging, fucking.... which is the highest form of pleasure outside drugs ofc

I’ve considered this in the past as well, but like I said, looks = attraction to you. Money = attraction to what you have. With looks, you’re desired, with money, your money is desired, she will grow to hate you, critique everything you do, fulfill her sexual desire other ways while claiming to be ‘tired’ with you. Looks is simply true desire because it’s a desire to what you are. Not your physical possessions. A woman will convince herself that she loves you for who you are on top of your looks when you have them, while she’ll despise you as person and an inferior male genetically if you don’t have them. You’ll be sold out in a heartbeat for your money as a betabuxx, while she’ll sacrifice her family members for chad.

So what if she cheats on? Cheat on her too and dump her. Should be water on here to never pair bond with a woman and always prepare yourself for the worst no matter your looks rate

So just never be genuinely loved by a woman and keep ‘providing’ (JFL) over and over as she cheats over and over? A woman cannot love you if she is not attracted to you. Because of the lack of attraction, she’ll always engage in some form of cheating, whether in her head and fantasies, or in physical form with a better looking man, it’s practically the same thing, a manifestation of her lack of ‘true desire’ for you.

Just love playing devil's advocate, I don't have definite stances. I'm more than willing to change my perspective, that's the main reason I even made account on this shithole

Fair enough, I recall previously arguing on your end not so long ago lol.

 

[Sprinkles]

I have always seen all of these young men cope with many things but a pattern I have always seen was the average kid, regardless of race; always thinking they can become some famous player in any sport or become a well known MMA player. It is cute but that is all it is is. Cute, everytime I hear such ambitions in young men I just feel like a nursery teacher listening to the class toddlers talking about how they wish to be an astronaut or some other bigger than life ambition. Seeing all of these young MTN or LTN boys dreaming on and on yet that is the issue, what does life literally matter when you are a dreamer? Why have dreams when they are not real?

That is one of the things I wanted to bring up in regards to this topic. Mostly how most men really believe they are more than what they are. Some people here call me arrogant which I can accept but I never called myself more than all life, I am an idea. I just choose to not lie to myself or you and it is why you hate me. I hate mankind for being two faced and cruel for no purpose beyond thin amusement. Now back to the topic.

Why do so many of you lot forget the price of being a rich man? Every woman who goes for you, is going for your status. Not you, not your face, not your faith, not your passion and more than surely not your person. Maybe once you get into a marriage they will tolerate you and maybe even pity you but out of amusement, not genuine pity. You are a useful idiot just like every other rich man who is not NT, tall, attractive. You are better off blue pilled, at least you can trick yourself into believing that women actually want you more than what you have in your pockets. I am wrong? Am I wrong? Is the reflection truly wrong? Then let me ask you, if no woman ever gave you the time of day in your past, then why will it change with money and status? Yes, let those two dots connect sooner already to see the futility of connection and feeling, it has no value with such people. If you can already see life for what it is, you either have two choices. You either go down the path of clarity and lose everything you hold dear or you turn back and live a further lie and die comfy. No inbetweens, there was only left or right, no middle.

In the end, all of your favourite sports figures have women only for being rich and well known. Nothing more, if they did not that have that? They would be no better than you, they would only have the ego to punt a ball around for no purpose in life and for no reason. Welcome to reality, dreaming is a cancer for people who have a spine.

when I grow up I want to be a twitch streamer

 

[mrdouchebag]

Results is the only thing that matters. People can think of what they want and they can dream of what they want, but ultimately you either get it or you don't. Noone cares about effort, talent, potential, dreams if it doesn't translate to results.

That being said, I personally don't think moneymaxxing and statusmaxxing, if you manage to get at the apex of it, are useless.
The difference between an average mtn that makes average wage and a famous mtn with hundreds of millions in the bank is that one has the option of leveraging it to fuck, date and reproduce with multiple women of much higher genetic quality. The other is stuck with mids at best. And whether it's a mid or a hottie, both women want some very attractive dude ideally, so in both cases you get a woman who don't truly desire you. Any reasonable man would choose to be a rich famous mtn over a wageslaving mtn nobody, given the choice. It's not even close actually.

If a man manages to reproduce with multiple women, especially women of high beauty and genetic quality, he is biologically and reproductively very successful, regardless of how he got them or whether they loved/desired him or not. Everything comes down to sex and reproduction in the end.

 

[VohnnyBoy]

But how does your point here dispute the lookspill at all? Just because she doesn’t have access to chads? She’ll still be most attracted to the best looking option. Chad is practically a synonym for ‘good looking man’ i’m not referring to the autist 1/10000 definition that we have on this forum necessarily.

It wasn't meant to dispute it at all. "Looks>>> X" is water no point in challenging such statement. The average woman would choose the objectively best looking guy she can get, also water.

My take was that your competition isn't as tough as it is advocated on here. Based on your location, best bet there's limited amount of moggers around you. The average girl isn't hit on by handsome guys 24/7.
No point of having distorted thoughts about prime Chicos competing for that one Becky you like. Even if they do it's still worth the shot, luck out of the draw.

I already gave my take on ‘status’ post high school, ‘type’ is also pretty much just lookism lol. I don’t see how your argument here opposes that looks are everything.

I agree that status attraction is as intense as looks attraction when taken to an extreme (athletes, singers, actors...), but still halos are not dichotomous concepts. They can be shown on a scale of intensity, you'll agree on that.

‘type’ is also pretty much just lookism lol. I don’t see how your argument here opposes that looks are everything.

It is, just neglected in comparison to dimorphism and angularity per se. To sum up my statement:
5/10 her type > 7/10 not her type; maybe objective 8+/10 studs stand a chance but that's just guessing

As an average guy, you're best bet for slaying/finding "love" is to maximize your halos and acknowledge the demographic of women you've attracted so far, expose yourself to than niche and in due course find the "one" without worrying about Chads