A Case Study: Why Environment Is Gigacope

[Whatever0]

So often you will hear retards say each time a recessed cuck posts his side profile:
"Yeah bro your father should have fed you tough foods and injected T and HGH and you would have been Chad bro"
Obviously This is absolute cope and I will explain why:
First of all two examples;
-We all know Richard Ramirez, he has insane skull development and a great side profile

But this nigga had one of the worst environments growing up he only ate sweets and did drugs was abused by his family yet even with giga high cortisol and rotten teeth he still had an insane jawline. This is his niece Btw

She had a way better environment yet she doesn't even come close. Mirin hollow cheeks though

Now me, growing up I always nosebreathed and my tongue naturally rested on the roof of my mouth
Yet I am a giga-recessed cuck:

Why? because of GENETICS why the fuck how you place your tongue would influence significantly your bone growth when most of it happens while you are sleeping JFL
And I don't want to hear about copium like epigenetics the effect is not strong enough to transform you into a whole another person
People thinking that they would be gigachads in another environment are straight up coping because they don't want to accept that they have SHIT GENETICS there is a reason why some facial traits persist across generations.

 

[JackTheKnife]

Cope. Mercedes gave him good mexican food and he was kind of chubby as a kid so he obviously ate enough. Yeah he smoked weed but that shit wouldn't effect him, he started eating like trash and stop taking care of himself after moving to Los angels (after puberty)

 

[Deleted member 21735]

my oneitis said that certain genes surface depending on evnorment

 

[JackTheKnife]

But this nigga had one of the worst environments growing up he only ate sweets and did drugs

Not true. He had a family that loved him, only his dad raged here and there but that's pretty normal with Mexican parents. He had a dog, he was a bit chubby at times, he went to school and did better than his brothers. Only after leaving el paso he completely stopped giving a fuck. He wouldn't cook for himself, and he started doing heroin.

 

[Deleted member 28904]

@It'snotover

 

[Whatever0]

Cope. Mercedes gave him good mexican food and he was kind of chubby as a kid so he obviously ate enough. Yeah he smoked weed but that shit wouldn't effect him, he started eating like trash and stop taking care of himself after moving to Los angels (after puberty)

He was caught with weed at 17 but he had started harder drugs a long time before that

 

[JackTheKnife]

He was caught with weed at 17 but he had started harder drugs a long time before that

He smoked weed from age 12, that wouldn't cause him to be uglier or something. He barely did real drugs as a kid or teen, just a random LSD trip here and there, many normies do that.

You describe it like he lived in a warzone or some shit, he grew with a normal family, a dog, and ate enough. Well tbh his brothers were kind of fucked up, but that wouldn't effect his...face.

 

[Whatever0]

Not true. He had a family that loved him, only his dad raged here and there but that's pretty normal with Mexican parents. He had a dog, he was a bit chubby at times, he went to school and did better than his brothers. Only after leaving el paso he completely stopped giving a fuck. He wouldn't cook for himself, and he started doing heroin.

His uncle was a psycho and he was very scared of his father you still haven't addressed the niece argument

 

[JackTheKnife]

His uncle was a psycho and he was very scared of his father you still haven't addressed the niece argument

Are you retarded? how would that effect his growth? I read a whole book on that nigger I know his whole life from zero to incarceration.
Yes his uncle mentally fucked him with the stories and photo (he wasn't abusive, they considered each other friends) and his father was a hard working mexican who sometimes went into a rage, so? his father wasn't some psycho jfl, just an angry mexican who worked 24/7 under the sun so the last thing he wants is the kid to annoy him. He used to beat up the big brothers if anything, not Richard. They loved him and Richard loved him too.

 

[JackTheKnife]

He wasn't malnourished
He didn't go crazy with drugs (weed, later on LSD trips here and there)
Went to school and did better than his brothers
Played sports till his medical condition
had a girlfriend at a young age
had a job at a hotel

Niggas here living in worst environments.

 

[Whatever0]

Are you retarded? how would that effect his growth? I read a whole book on that nigger I know his whole life from zero to incarceration.
Yes his uncle mentally fucked him with the stories and photo (he wasn't abusive, they considered each other friends) and his father was a hard working mexican who sometimes went into a rage, so? his father wasn't some psycho jfl, just an angry mexican who worked 24/7 under the sun so the last thing he wants is the kid to annoy him. He used to beat up the big brothers if anything, not Richard. They loved him and Richard loved him too.

He was a crackhead from a young age retard that obviously affects development yet even with rotten teeth he didn't experience jaw resorbtion this is the crux of the argument I just exaggerated for the sake of theatrics

 

[JackTheKnife]

He was a crackhead from a young age retard that obviously affects development yet even with rotten teeth he didn't experience jaw resorbtion this is the crux of the argument I just exaggerated for the sake of theatrics

I read the book, you invented scenarios based on random sentences you saw. Alright, you won.

 

[Whatever0]

I read the book, you invented scenarios based on random sentences you saw. Alright, you won.

"MuH I ReaD THe BoOk "
Most sources on the internet say that he was a heavy drug user from a young age.

 

[JackTheKnife]

"MuH I ReaD THe BoOk "
Most sources on the internet say that he was a heavy drug user from a young age.

I read the book where he actually explains to the author (only one book like that) what he did at each point of his life. I guess you know better.

The book is based on personal interviews with the author and Richard.

 

[Whatever0]

I read the book where he actually explains to the author (only one book like that) what he did at each point of his life. I guess you know better.

The book is based on personal interviews with the author and Richard.

Link it.
even if you are right you can just replace worst environment with average environment and it's exactly the same but I frankly doubt that because Ramirez was a capper from what I've seen he didn't have success with women

 

[Deleted member 23558]

He wasn't malnourished
He didn't go crazy with drugs (weed, later on LSD trips here and there)
Went to school and did better than his brothers
Played sports till his medical condition
had a girlfriend at a young age
had a job at a hotel

Niggas here living in worst environments.

what girlfrend i thought he said he thought he was ugly and no female was interested in him

 

[phookmumb]

Dna is everything

 

[JackTheKnife]

Link it.
even if you are right you can just replace worst environment with average environment and it's exactly the same but I frankly doubt that because Ramirez was a capper from what I've seen he didn't have success with women

You want to know the name of the book? link what. And now you change the subject, it's not about how good he did with women. He had one girlfriend.

what girlfrend i thought he said he thought he was ugly and no female was interested in him

He had a secret girlfriend at age 15 which he hided from his dad and her parents, only his mother and his sister knew. She later visited him where he got incarcerated. You may have heard the story of him having sex in a cemetery, that was around age 15 with his GF.

 

[looksmaxxed]

none of those things would prevent him from mewing or nose breathing. also jacktheknife is right, he had a relatively normal childhood.

keep coping. you are ugly because you don't know how to breath correctly. brutal.

 

[Whatever0]

none of those things would prevent him from mewing or nose breathing. also jacktheknife is right, he had a relatively normal childhood.

keep coping. you are ugly because you don't know how to breath correctly. brutal.

Being recessed causes you to have bad breathing patterns not the other way around retard

 

[JackTheKnife]

Being recessed causes you to have bad breathing patterns not the other way around retard

Not always. Sometimes your nose is crooked so it's hard to breath from it, or allergies. It's probably mostly allergies and a crooked nose.

 

[It'snotover]

@It'snotover

Niggas here have much worse environment than him, he started to had a shit environment when he was done with puberty. It's too hard for copers to accept that their uglyness is also their fault too.

 

[looksmaxxed]

Being recessed causes you to have bad breathing patterns not the other way around retard

there are congenital disorders like mandibular hypoplasia that causes severe recession which can affect the airway and require surgical intervention. but for most people with normal range of recession, it wouldn't be able to prevent nosebreathing. if applying the correct myofunctional habits ie mewing and nosebreathing, chewing hard foods, etc to exert the proper mechanical force, then that recession can be reversed.

both of these are twins

 

[Whatever0]

there are congenital disorders like mandibular hypoplasia that causes severe recession which can affect the airway and require surgical intervention. but for most people with normal range of recession, it wouldn't be able to prevent nosebreathing. if applying the correct myofunctional habits ie mewing and nosebreathing, chewing hard foods, etc to exert the proper mechanical force, then that recession can be reversed.

both of these are twins

The pics aren't taken at the same angle jfl and it's ridiculous to use children that haven't went through puberty to try to prove a point

 

[looksmaxxed]

here's a video of them in motion so you can stop coping now

 

[Deleted member 23391]

terrible graycel post, HGH would have made anyone here tall if started early enough and test at a young enough age does increase penis size, and that's what the scientific literature shows

 

[St.TikTokcel]

there are congenital disorders like mandibular hypoplasia that causes severe recession which can affect the airway and require surgical intervention. but for most people with normal range of recession, it wouldn't be able to prevent nosebreathing. if applying the correct myofunctional habits ie mewing and nosebreathing, chewing hard foods, etc to exert the proper mechanical force, then that recession can be reversed.

both of these are twins

 

[Whatever0]

here's a video of them in motion so you can stop coping now

Barely a difference JFL so much for MuH environment and you are comparing extractions with mewing not mewing with doing nothing

 

[saiya_online]

there are congenital disorders like mandibular hypoplasia that causes severe recession which can affect the airway and require surgical intervention. but for most people with normal range of recession, it wouldn't be able to prevent nosebreathing. if applying the correct myofunctional habits ie mewing and nosebreathing, chewing hard foods, etc to exert the proper mechanical force, then that recession can be reversed.

both of these are twins

I can tell you; he most likely did NOT have correct breathing posture as a child or ate anything necessarily actually good. I know so many recessed people on here who cope that "I nose breathed as a kid" only to realize they didn't when they looked back on breathing problems they had as a kid and noticed they looked radically different as a child than they do now.
Ramirez ate lots of good norteño food which is like a ton of meat and barbecue and diary food. Combined with a generational habit of good posture. I bet all of the things I own, if we tested two members of Ramirez's family as a child and had one have the worst habits and diet, they will turn out a recessed dog.

 

[St.TikTokcel]

I can tell you; he most likely did NOT have correct breathing posture as a child or ate anything necessarily actually good. I know so many recessed people on here who cope that "I nose breathed as a kid" only to realize they didn't when they looked back on breathing problems they had as a kid and noticed they looked radically different as a child than they do now.
Ramirez ate lots of good norteño food which is like a ton of meat and barbecue and diary food. Combined with a generational habit of good posture. I bet all of the things I own, if we tested two members of Ramirez's family as a child and had one have the worst habits and diet, they will turn out a recessed dog.

I had high prenatal estrogen, ate processed goyslop + was a mouth-breather till 16 and I still have the same maxillo-facial development as my mother.

 

[saiya_online]

Also you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Have you read any orthodontist books to disprove your claim? Generational degradation of the face is a real thing, viola:

To anyone who keeps coping and saying "I inherited my families facial structure" can be absolutely destroyed in a matter of generations. As such the opposite can happen.

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[saiya_online]

I had high prenatal estrogen, ate processed goyslop + was a mouth-breather till 16 and I still have the same maxillo-facial development as my mother.

You're both boneless gooks as well?

 

[St.TikTokcel]

You're both boneless gooks as well?

Square jaw JFL!

 

[LampPostPrime]

terrible graycel post, HGH would have made anyone here tall if started early enough and test at a young enough age does increase penis size, and that's what the scientific literature shows

Op is literally judging ALL of humanity based on 2 fucking examples L O L

 

[Deleted member 23391]

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mewing is cope, I just wish my mom rubbed DHT cream on my penis every day until I was 5 years old and injected me with GH

 

[St.TikTokcel]

mewing is cope, I just wish my mom rubbed DHT cream on my penis every day until I was 5 years old and injected me with GH

Even Dr. Jew debooonked it.

 

[Pei]

So often you will hear retards say each time a recessed cuck posts his side profile:
"Yeah bro your father should have fed you tough foods and injected T and HGH and you would have been Chad bro"
Obviously This is absolute cope and I will explain why:
First of all two examples;
-We all know Richard Ramirez, he has insane skull development and a great side profile

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But this nigga had one of the worst environments growing up he only ate sweets and did drugs was abused by his family yet even with giga high cortisol and rotten teeth he still had an insane jawline. This is his niece Btw

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She had a way better environment yet she doesn't even come close. Mirin hollow cheeks though

Now me, growing up I always nosebreathed and my tongue naturally rested on the roof of my mouth
Yet I am a giga-recessed cuck:View attachment 2259105
Why? because of GENETICS why the fuck how you place your tongue would influence significantly your bone growth when most of it happens while you are sleeping JFL
And I don't want to hear about copium like epigenetics the effect is not strong enough to transform you into a whole another person
People thinking that they would be gigachads in another environment are straight up coping because they don't want to accept that they have SHIT GENETICS there is a reason why some facial traits persist across generations.

Barrett is prob the only male model who has better development than ramirez tbh

 

[cancercell]

I read the book where he actually explains to the author (only one book like that) what he did at each point of his life. I guess you know better.

The book is based on personal interviews with the author and Richard.

which book?

 

[Whatashame]

So often you will hear retards say each time a recessed cuck posts his side profile:
"Yeah bro your father should have fed you tough foods and injected T and HGH and you would have been Chad bro"
Obviously This is absolute cope and I will explain why:
First of all two examples;
-We all know Richard Ramirez, he has insane skull development and a great side profile

View attachment 2259019
But this nigga had one of the worst environments growing up he only ate sweets and did drugs was abused by his family yet even with giga high cortisol and rotten teeth he still had an insane jawline. This is his niece Btw

View attachment 2259050
She had a way better environment yet she doesn't even come close. Mirin hollow cheeks though

Now me, growing up I always nosebreathed and my tongue naturally rested on the roof of my mouth
Yet I am a giga-recessed cuck:View attachment 2259105
Why? because of GENETICS why the fuck how you place your tongue would influence significantly your bone growth when most of it happens while you are sleeping JFL
And I don't want to hear about copium like epigenetics the effect is not strong enough to transform you into a whole another person
People thinking that they would be gigachads in another environment are straight up coping because they don't want to accept that they have SHIT GENETICS there is a reason why some facial traits persist across generations.

these copers are new to the forum, post the shit that was discussed a thousand times (And refuted) and act like they discovered a new planet.