above average ratios. shit aesthetics

[benkier]]

what are my failos, i have ideal facial thirds, chin to filturm, fwhr, midface ratio, esp, bigonial/bizygogmatic, 90% highset cheekbones but still look mtn.



so far:
- eye bags
- horrid nose (symmetry and tip)
- flat midface

anything obvious other than that?

 

[benkier]]

and bloat

 

[ItsOverLawg]

contrary to what i believed your eye area isnt that bad

 

[benkier]]

contrary to what i believed your eye area isnt that bad

thx, i just think the main flaw is eye bags and eyebrow set (and obvoisly having T40 eyes)

 

[ItsOverLawg]

thx, i just think the main flaw is eye bags and eyebrow set (and obvoisly having T40 eyes)

which color is t40

 

[ItsOverLawg]

what are my failos, i have ideal facial thirds, chin to filturm, fwhr, midface ratio, esp, bigonial/bizygogmatic, 90% highset cheekbones but still look mtn.



so far:
- eye bags
- horrid nose (symmetry and tip)
- flat midface

anything obvious other than that?


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have u tried longer hair

 

[benkier]]

have u tried longer hair

no, i was about to cut it tmr lol

 

[esoterik]

one eye is above the other

 

[benkier]]

which color is t40

its hazel in some light:

 

[benkier]]

one eye is above the other

is there even a fix for that?

 

[benkier]]

contrary to what i believed your eye area isnt that bad

 

[esoterik]

is there even a fix for that?

ya, obo. its pretty invasive but if you stare in the middle of your face its noticeable from the inner canthus

 

[benkier]]

ya, obo. its pretty invasive but if you stare in the middle of your face its noticeable from the inner canthus

yep, i think if i fix my nose my percieved symmetry will 100X

 

[ItsOverLawg]

no, i was about to cut it tmr lol

i'd say your looks are fixable bhai
there's no need to feel bad about it. You're currently MTN with HTN+ potential.
no gaslighting or bluepill bs

 

[esoterik]

yep, i think if i fix my nose my percieved symmetry will 100X

it could def help but not only are your eyes objectively asym so is your whole face, the only single feature i can see that is sym is your supra placement

usually i say sym is cope but this is quite a big deal

 

[Ddjfkfkf]

which color is t40

 

[Alucard69]

usually i say sym is cope but this is quite a big deal

It's not.

OP you look visibly recessed from front

 

[benkier]]

It's not.

OP you look visibly recessed from front

im not really, fine maxilla, slightly recessed chin (very slightly). my main reccession in orbits/zygos

 

[Alucard69]

im not really, fine maxilla, slightly recessed chin (very slightly). my main reccession in orbits/zygos

Show your side profile then

 

[benkier]]

Show your side profile then

its the middle of the night and my phone is dead lemmi try find a pic

 

[benkier]]

Show your side profile then

quite an old pic

 

[Alucard69]

quite an old pic

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Not forward grown right? @thecel

 

[benkier]]

Not forward grown right? @thecel

defo not, just minimal recession

 

[billymidnight]

contrary to what i believed your eye area isnt that bad

Ur rdr character looks like hitler

 

[esoterik]

It's not.

OP you look visibly recessed from front

in a practical sense it is, would you rather be more sym or have a better pheno?

when you work towards goals with hardmaxx you are fixing ratios and refining your pheno

 

[Alucard69]

defo not, just minimal recession

Your hyoid isn't tight and your bones don't project enough compared to soft tissue i'm guessing

 

[negativetiltedheart]

Not bad. Your jaw is lacking. Its looks bloated + Your picture qualtiy also look bad. You dont have recessed maxilla or recessed jaw.

 

[Alucard69]

in a practical sense it is, would you rather be more sym or have a better pheno?

when you work towards goals with hardmaxx you are fixing ratios and refining your pheno

Fixing asymmetry wouldn't do shit for him. Just get OBO for 0.001 PSL boost theory

 

[esoterik]

Fixing asymmetry wouldn't do shit for him. Just get OBO for 0.001 PSL boost theory

? in this case his asym is actually fucked


and no, i replied to him as how he can fix it, not that he should

 

[Alucard69]

Not bad. Your jaw is lacking. Its looks bloated + Your picture qualtiy also look bad. You dont have recessed maxilla or recessed jaw.

His overall forward growth seems small to me. Look at the distance from ear to nose for example

 

[benkier]]

His overall forward growth seems small to me. Look at the distance from ear to nose for example

i have bad posture in that pic (thats why i cut it out), i look more forward grown when using two mirrors

 

[Alucard69]

? in this case his asym is actually fucked


and no, i replied to him as how he can fix it, not that he should

Yes he has some orbital dystopia, no one will even notice it irl, nor does it affect his facial aesthetics enough to matter much. It's not even near 0.25 psl lol, which is like the minimum or so to start thinking about failo approx

 

[esoterik]

Yes he has some orbital dystopia, no one will even notice it irl, nor does it affect his facial aesthetics enough to matter much

did you... even read what i said? i pointed it out not weighting it in on his importance as one feature

and generally ya, refine your pheno before fixing asym

 

[Alucard69]

did you... even read what i said? i pointed it out not weighting it in on his importance as one feature

and generally ya, refine your pheno before fixing asym

You said it's a big deal, but it's not. Seriously that's like saying o'pry negative orbital vector is a big deal or something. Big deal is his face especially lower 3rd looking babylike

 

[esoterik]

You said it's a big deal, but it's not. Seriously that's like saying o'pry negative orbital vector is a big deal or something. Big deal is his face especially lower 3rd looking babylike

i said the overall face is, my first message was pointing it out

and gtfo with tiktok terms, ov is a jew "measurement"

 

[Alucard69]

i said the overall face is, my first message was pointing it out

and gtfo with tiktok terms, ov is a jew "measurement"

Whatever you think the asymmetry is/are it's just not a big deal for him.

Also cope harder positive orbital vector is good for side profile, gives anime character looking upper maxilla/under eye region

 

[esoterik]

Whatever you think the asymmetry is/are it's just not a big deal for him.

Also cope harder positive orbital vector is good for side profile, gives anime character looking upper maxilla/under eye region

your arguing shit i didnt say, i legit said would you rather have a better pheno or more sym, implying that sym is useless

it has less of a roi than a fucking otoplasty, its only use is in a aio

 

[Alucard69]

your arguing shit i didnt say, i legit said would you rather have a better pheno or more sym, implying that sym is useless

it has less of a roi than a fucking otoplasty, its only use is in a aio

Well you said it's a big deal, you can just read your messages back tbh, you'll see. Also what does aio mean?

 

[esoterik]

Well you said it's a big deal, you can just read your messages back tbh, you'll see. Also what does aio mean?

when i said this case its a big deal, when your whole face is asym looking at it for more than 2 seconds it becomes noticeable

otherwise focus on pheno/ratios

all in one surgery, to combat anesthesia drawbacks but generally its cope and its only function is to save both time & recovery duration

 

[Alucard69]

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when i said this case its a big deal, when your whole face is asym looking at it for more than 2 seconds it becomes noticeable

otherwise focus on pheno/ratios

all in one surgery, to combat anesthesia drawbacks but generally its cope and its only function is to save both time & recovery duration

alright bro

 

[e443]

The only thing I can say is that I think the best way to get rid of this headache was with some sort of plastic surgery

 

[NorwoodAscender]

ur lower third is way too short

 

[NorwoodAscender]

it could def help but not only are your eyes objectively asym so is your whole face, the only single feature i can see that is sym is your supra placement

it’s bc of a tilted sphenoid

 

[Akhi]

u just lack the bonemass and dimo to mog