according to quantum physics the universe is probabilistic, how does that work with the black pill which is deterministic?

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Wouldn’t it refute the black pill?

It complicates the black-pilled certainty that "ugly people are doomed to fail," for example. Reality, in a probabilistic sense, operates on probabilities, not absolutes according to quantum physics.

If the universes is probabilistic does that mean
the failures or shortcomings of incels are not purely due to looks or fate but involve a mix of chance and personal responsibility, which can be harder to confront?

A probabilistic universe suggests that while society heavily weights certain traits like appearance, the ultimate outcomes are never fully determined by them. I think this uncertainty will fuel existential anxiety in many BP incels because it means control is partial, not total. For the black-pilled, who often seek certainty in their worldview, this randomness can be maddening. To me it adds more to the idea that life is not fair, but adds the unsettling layer that unfairness itself is subject to probability, a roll of the dice we can't predict or influence with certainty.

Even chad isn’t determine, genetic recombination is random. Many of these chads have ugly or mid parents

Free will in a probabilistic universe also becomes a fragile concept. Even tho libertarian free will argues that people have agency, black-pilled individuals might reject this, seeing themselves as trapped by looks, social dynamics, and societal judgments. But within the probabilistic model, choice does exist, even if constrained by randomness and external pressures. This means personal agency, while limited, is not entirely an illusion.

Is it time for the black pill to evolved to intergrate probabilistic universe to replace determinism?
it could be done by accepting that while the odds are stacked against us in certain areas (like looks), the outcomes are not set in stone. This realization might lead you not to hope, but to a deeper sense of existential frustration: that even in a world where nothing is certain, the weight of your perceived inadequacies still holds strong, reinforcing your cynicism.
 
mirin for the interesting topic

you can be a determinist and still hold the view that the future is uncertain; atleast in an epistemic sense.

even if we grant that everything is determinate, regardless, we still are not able to tap into the future, so to say.

so, it could be predetermined chad has LTN child or marries gross LTB . or it could be predetermined that chad marries stacy and has mogger children. determinism doesn't really specify anything about the future itself, only that it's already determined


If the universes is probabilistic does that mean
the failures or shortcomings of incels are not purely due to looks or fate but involve a mix of chance and personal responsibility, which can be harder to confront?
so for example, if determinism is true, then it wouldn't be a valid inference to say "muh im determined to fail", that's a weird understanding of determinism. just because the future is determined doesn't mean it's specifically determined to make you fail

it could be done by accepting that while the odds are stacked against us in certain areas (like looks), the outcomes are not set in stone.
i assume you are referring to the outcome of failing here, which, again, this view is compatible with determinism. you are not set in stone to fail.


It complicates the black-pilled certainty that "ugly people are doomed to fail,"
ugly people are in fact not doomed to fail, there are still ways to pull foids, unless youre extremely ND or lowest of the low subhuman. even then that just means your chances to pull are very low, but still possible.
 

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