After blackpill comes... PUA?

[spongebob]

Blackpill is important. You need to have a shiny product that looks good. But you also  actually need to sell it and demonstrate it has value. That's redpill. You need to talk to girls to actually get results. Approach them, be social, be cool etc.
That's why after doing blackpill you need to do redpill. Otherwise it's just retarted.

So I've been wondering, has anyone here actually ever tried PUA and even contacted an expert or gone on an immersion? I mean you could pay like 5K for some surgery to look better but if you pay some coach you'll learn more skills and get more lays than just going for the appearance.

I think PUA has the highest amount of return of investment. Might not be the best forum to post this but we need some realism here instead of the autistic blackpillcrap.

Tell me what you guys think

 

[Deleted member 1901]

if you pay some coach you'll learn more skills and get more lays than just going for the appearance

Why would you pay a coach? Retarded. You could learn everything on your own and it’s probably cope anyway but you can’t do a surgery on yourself all your money should go to looks

 

[spongebob]

Why would you pay a coach? Retarded. You could learn everything on your own and it’s probably cope anyway but you can’t do a surgery on yourself all your money should go to looks

Most people won't make the effort. That's what coaches are for. In practicality some people get laid more from one immersion + the experience than just doing some surgery

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Most people won't make the effort. That's what coaches are for. In practicality some people get laid more from one immersion + the experience than just doing some surgery

Ok but you’re retarded if you pay a “coach”. If you aren’t NT then you probably never will be. And if it’s simply a matter of learning then to could learn for free by actually doing. Doing > studying

 

[bloomercel]

PSL forums started as a reaction to PUA. It's in the name, "puahate". Every single successful PUA was over 6ft and even they had to dumpster dive in clubs or turd world countries. Red pill is a bunch of tall white guys talking shit and gullible curries buying their grift.

 

[Gonthar]

I mean you could pay like 5K for some surgery to look better but if you pay some coach you'll learn more skills and get more lays than just going for the appearance.

Lol, no, you won't.

I think PUA has the highest amount of return of investment

No, it's not.

Paying for PUA coaching, it's very retarded since most coaches are scammers and you can already find all the info online for free, you aren't gonna learn anything groundbreaking from these coaches.

Most people won't make the effort. That's what coaches are for. In practicality some people get laid more from one immersion + the experience than just doing some surgery

This is a common tactic of many self-help gurus to sell their crap at very high prices, claiming that if you make a very expensive investment you are more likely to actually follow their advice, than if you would get that info for free for example(there are tons of people however who bought these courses and seminars and it still didn't do much for them).

 

[zharupodrugu]

Social skills > PUA.
Theres no magic pill to cure your autism. Just socialize more.

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Paying for PUA coaching, it's very retarded since most coaches are scammers and you can already find all the info online for free, you aren't gonna learn anything groundbreaking from these coaches.

Exactly. You explained it better than me.

 

[rand anon]

if you pay some coach you'll learn more skills and get more lays than just going for the appearance.

No coach can teach u "game" or how to be NT, it's all genetic

 

[spongebob]

Lol, no, you won't.

No, it's not.

Paying for PUA coaching, it's very retarded since most coaches are scammers and you can already find all the info online for free, you aren't gonna learn anything groundbreaking from these coaches.

This is a common tactic of many self-help gurus to sell their crap at very high prices, claiming that if you make a very expensive investment you are more likely to actually follow their advice, than if you would get that info for free for example(there are tons of people however who bought these courses and seminars and it still didn't do much for them).

It's not about learning new things. Anyone can do that. It's about putting in the effort and doing it. That's the value added. No nigga is gonna cold approach 20 girls a day for 20 days in a row without a coach. If u can then it is indeed a waste. However it isnt for 90% of people.

Yes if you're ugly or very autistic results may vary but...
if you're normal socially (but not extroverted) and got some solid normie looks (being tall but not handsome for example) then you benefit a lot.
You pass the threshold, yet you dont take action. That's where the ROI is.