All facial changes to expect from a facepuller ITT

[retard]

I’ve been on a facepuller obsession doing research so I figured I would make this thread, if I am missing anything put it in comments

Counterclockwise rotation of the maxilla resulting in more forward growth

Cheekbones will become more highset and sagitally protruding (will not affect lateral length) an example of how this will manifest in your ogee curve is the it will move higher up on your face, yet the curve it’s self will not increase in prominence

Increased undereye support, will cause lower eyelid to become higherset decreasing the overall PFH and giving you more hunter and almond shaped eyes, based on one of my previous theories your upper eyelid curvature will also decrease which will further decrease PFH and make eyes less round and more almond-like

Canthil tilt will increase in angle by improving your zygomatic undereye support

Jaw will become more forward grown and upswung and will make your side profile much better, your gonial will decrease and ramus length will increase (this is from keeping your molars lightly touching but this is mandatory to prevent developing and overbite and making sure your jaw follows the growth of your maxilla)

Chin will become more prominent and forward
just a byproduct of the jaw becoming more forward grown

Nose will become straighther from a side view

Midface will become more compact due to CCW rotation of maxilla; nose will decrease in length and philtrum will too


If you aren’t facepulling/getting your hands on a facepuller don’t consider your self a looksmaxxer

It costs 450 at the very max if you get the BOW and 200 if you go with cope and ropes design, the value of improvements you will get from FPing for a year will rival $15000+ worth in surgeries

This is 4 years of progress, being the aspies we are we could get these results in 2 by supplementing K2 and D3 and taking something to supplement GH, these results mog a lefort i imo which is 20000 and will relapse by 50%

like I said if you aren’t trying to get your hands on a facepuller or not getting surgeries do not consider your self a looksmaxxer

 

[alligatordude]

 

[maxmendietta]

good thred but username failos u hard son tbh ngl

 

[.👽.]

Is facepulling legit tho. Dont want to break anything

 

[retard]

Is facepulling legit tho. Dont want to break anything

It should be, theoretically it should be the same as mewing on a roided tongue and will be enough force to cause bone changes even the density of the bone being much higher than it is in children where mewing will give them very fast and very noticeable results

 

[her]

What if you combine it with MSE, what can you expect?

 

[retard]

What if you combine it with MSE, what can you expect?

MSE will give you the benefits of laterally expanding your maxilla, which will be wider face by increasing cheekbones and maxilla width, palate size massively increases, PFL will increase,
lip width will increase, nose base will increase, and IPD may increase minimally, combining MSE with facepulling wouldn’t amplify the facepulling results much at all imo, just give you the benefits of both

 

[her]

MSE will give you the benefits of laterally expanding your maxilla, which will be wider face by increasing cheekbones and maxilla width, palate size massively increases, PFL will increase,
lip width will increase, nose base will increase, and IPD may increase minimally, combining MSE with facepulling wouldn’t amplify the facepulling results much at all imo, just give you the benefits of both

Is MSE + FP enough or is there anything I can add to get even better results?

 

[retard]

Is MSE + FP enough or is there anything I can add to get even better results?

edit - I thought it said face mask at first my b, MSE and FP would be a great combo, there isn’t much more you can do besides increasing bone remodeling speeds using GH K2 and D3

 

[her]

I personally don’t know if facepuller is good since it applies a backwards force on the chin which would possibly recess it and cause an overbite, and that’s about all besides increasing the speeds of bone remodeling with K2 D3 and GH

I'm pretty sure CopeAndRope's facepuller doesn't apply the backwards force on the chin. I could be wrong though.

 

[retard]

I'm pretty sure CopeAndRope's facepuller doesn't apply the backwards force on the chin. I could be wrong though.

ya I misread it and thought you said FM (face mask) which does apply a backwards force, copes and the BOW don’t which is what you want

 

[Elias]

But i cant facepull if i dont have an appliance to attach it to?

 

[her]

ya I misread it and thought you said FM (face mask) which does apply a backwards force, copes and the BOW don’t which is what you want

oh okay. one last question, ccw rotation means that if i have downwards growth, it will give me more upwards growth and correct downwards growth, right?

 

[retard]

But i cant facepull if i dont have an appliance to attach it to?

@nelson made a thread on it and it’s pinned

 

[alligatordude]

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[retard]

oh okay. one last question, ccw rotation means that if i have downwards growth, it will give me more upwards growth and correct downwards growth, right?

yep

 

[Elias]

@nelson made a thread on it and it’s pinned

I read it and i dont really understand it, do i have to buy all that stuff he mentioned?

 

[retard]

I read it and i dont really understand it, do i have to buy all that stuff he mentioned?

Watch the video he gives a step by step tutorial on how to build it, so yes it comes out at around 200 iirc

 

[Chintuck22]

Another transformation

 

[curryslayerordeath]

MSE will give you the benefits of laterally expanding your maxilla, which will be wider face by increasing cheekbones and maxilla width, palate size massively increases, PFL will increase,
lip width will increase, nose base will increase, and IPD may increase minimally, combining MSE with facepulling wouldn’t amplify the facepulling results much at all imo, just give you the benefits of both

In my desperate teenager fueled opinion, combining them should help to some extent. Having MSE loosen the maxillary sutures, which are being protracted by "facepulling" (should be called maxillary protraction when talking to orthos/surgeons) should theoretically allow for more changes.

 

[retard]

In my desperate teenager fueled opinion, combining them should help to some extent. Having MSE loosen the maxillary sutures, which are being protracted by "facepulling" (should be called maxillary protraction when talking to orthos/surgeons) should theoretically allow for more changes.

The sutures only have an affect on lateral growth, so them being severed wouldn’t really have an affect on changes that are due to CCW rotation and forward growth of the maxilla, while they are both changes to the same bone the method of change is really different, this is rotation vs mse which is separation

 

[curryslayerordeath]

In my desperate teenager fueled opinion, combining them should help to some extent. Having MSE loosen the maxillary sutures, which are being protracted by "facepulling" (should be called maxillary protraction when talking to orthos/surgeons) should theoretically allow for more changes.

What I think we should work is finding out what to supplement in order to increase bone remodeling speed as much as we can since this is the essence of facepulling. Although we'll never emulate puberty conditions, maybe increasing igf or megadosing certain vitamins may help to enhance our results?

The sutures only have an affect on lateral growth, so them being severed wouldn’t really have an affect on changes that are due to CCW rotation and forward growth of the maxilla, while they are both changes to the same bone the method of change is really different, this is rotation vs mse which is separation

Yea it won't have any effect on CCW rotation. It's just that weakening the sutures that are being pulled on is bound to help just by theory. Also most people with recessed maxilla's probably tend to have lateral deficiency too.

 

[retard]

What I think we should work is finding out what to supplement in order to increase bone remodeling speed as much as we can since this is the essence of facepulling. Although we'll never emulate puberty conditions, maybe increasing igf or megadosing certain vitamins may help to enhance our results?


Yea it won't have any effect on CCW rotation. It's just that weakening the sutures that are being pulled on is bound to help just by theory. Also most people with recessed maxilla's probably tend to have lateral deficiency too.

mse has no problem splitting the suture iirc Ronald ead split his suture in 3 days of mse, and yes they are definitely correlated unless you had some really weird oral posture like only mewing with the posterior third

 

[Deleted member 470]

This is 4 years of progress, being the aspies we are we could get these results in 2 by supplementing K2 and D3 and taking something to supplement GH, these results mog a lefort i imo which is 20000 and will relapse by 50%

no facepulling for that undereye support

 

[curryslayerordeath]

mse has no problem splitting the suture iirc Ronald ead split his suture in 3 days of mse, and yes they are definitely correlated unless you had some really weird oral posture like only mewing with the posterior third

Yea I wasn't doubting that MSE would work. I think that having the split suture from MSE (even if it is laterally) would help with facepulling because of putting more stress on that whole bone complex. Do you know of anything to speed up remodeling?

 

[retard]

Yea I wasn't doubting that MSE would work. I think that having the split suture from MSE (even if it is laterally) would help with facepulling because of putting more stress on that whole bone complex. Do you know of anything to speed up remodeling?

vitamin k2 mk4 vitamin D3 and some peptide for HGH or even mk677

 

[Golang]

Facepullers and mewing are some next-level memes.

You have 3 options:

1) Hope (Cope) to have some God tier jaw genetics hidden within your subhuman chromosomes that will randomly turn on when you're in your mid-20s.
2) Get Jaw Implants if (1) doesn't happen
3) If (1) didn't happen and you can't do (2), then consider either roping or accepting your lonely and subhuman fate.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

Facepullers and mewing are some next-level memes.

You have 3 options:

1) Hope (Cope) to have some God tier jaw genetics hidden within your subhuman chromosomes that will randomly turn on when you're in your mid-20s.
2) Get Jaw Implants if (1) doesn't happen
3) If (1) didn't happen and you can't do (2), then consider either roping or accepting your lonely and subhuman fate.

It's not for jaws. No amount of facepulling after 10 will give you a good jawline. However, the mm's of changes we can hope to get have massive effect elsewhere on the face, after which surgeries can easily fix the jaw.

 

[retard]

Facepullers and mewing are some next-level memes.

You have 3 options:

1) Hope (Cope) to have some God tier jaw genetics hidden within your subhuman chromosomes that will randomly turn on when you're in your mid-20s.
2) Get Jaw Implants if (1) doesn't happen
3) If (1) didn't happen and you can't do (2), then consider either roping or accepting your lonely and subhuman fate.

so the guy I posted had recessed genetics until his random forward growth genetics decided to kick in and cause him an insane rotation in his maxilla?

 

[Golang]

so the guy I posted had recessed genetics until his random forward growth genetics decided to kick in and cause him an insane rotation in his maxilla?

Are you talking about the picture of the kid? If so, one-word answer: Yes (it's called puberty, you probably missed it).

 

[retard]

Are you talking about the picture of the kid? If so, one-word answer: Yes (it's called puberty, you probably missed it).

puberty does not rotate ur maxilla jfl that requires an actual force, no hormones/changes in bone density will oppose gravity, only a force will, and from his starting form to his current it is obvious it was quite a large one

 

[Deleted member 4991]

Kind of a stupid question but does facepulling change your bite? I have a good bite and I dont want to ruin it with this technique.

 

[Leamsefmare]

Are you facepulling @retard ?
Or is anyone actually doing it cuz im about to buy the bow

 

[GetThatBread]

4 years? What if you combine FacePulling along with MSE and MSE for your lower jaw (MSDO), while hard Mewing and supplementing?

 

[Golden Glass]

The problem with using kid facepulling results is that they were children. I think it’s impossible to see a result that dramatic on someone age 16 and above. You can still improve though.

Are you talking about the picture of the kid? If so, one-word answer: Yes (it's called puberty, you probably missed it).

Your flat out wrong on this. He had essentially inherited his dads facial structure and got forward growth due to face focused orthodontics at an early age.

This concept isn’t even something unique to Mew or orthotropics. It’s generally known as dentofacial orthopedics.

 

[bossman]

whAt if i HaVe OverBitE

 

[retard]

Are you facepulling @retard ?
Or is anyone actually doing it cuz im about to buy the bow

I’m going to my dentist on Friday so my mom can get confirmation that it’s safe and then I am going to order the BOW and materials for the mouth piece

whAt if i HaVe OverBitE

Put your molars slightly together and it should fix it self on its own, I would fix this before attempting to facepull though

Kind of a stupid question but does facepulling change your bite? I have a good bite and I dont want to ruin it with this technique.

It might go through fluctuations of change but the end outcome your bite will be fine if you rest with your molars lightly together while facepulling

 

[GoMadAndSTFU]

Tbh my goal with facepuller is to have better under eye support and a more. Straight-upturned nose . I will supplément fp by hgh too but i need money.

 

[livelaughlooksmax]

Facepulling and mewing does not work on developed faces. Unless we have members younger than 10 years old on this forum (I wouldn't be surprised, this is reddit after all), then this shit is pointless to talk about.

 

[retard]

Facepulling and mewing does not work on developed faces. Unless we have members younger than 10 years old on this forum (I wouldn't be surprised, this is reddit after all), then this shit is pointless to talk about.

Studies to back up your baseless claim? A study on monkeys with a much higher bone density had significant change to their facial structures, why wouldn’t it work on adult humans with less dense bones? We can even use higher forces than the monkeys used

 

[optimisticzoomer]

I’ve been on a facepuller obsession doing research so I figured I would make this thread, if I am missing anything put it in comments

Counterclockwise rotation of the maxilla resulting in more forward growth

Cheekbones will become more highset and sagitally protruding (will not affect lateral length) an example of how this will manifest in your ogee curve is the it will move higher up on your face, yet the curve it’s self will not increase in prominence

Increased undereye support, will cause lower eyelid to become higherset decreasing the overall PFH and giving you more hunter and almond shaped eyes, based on one of my previous theories your upper eyelid curvature will also decrease which will further decrease PFH and make eyes less round and more almond-like

Canthil tilt will increase in angle by improving your zygomatic undereye support

Jaw will become more forward grown and upswung and will make your side profile much better, your gonial will decrease and ramus length will increase (this is from keeping your molars lightly touching but this is mandatory to prevent developing and overbite and making sure your jaw follows the growth of your maxilla)

Chin will become more prominent and forward
just a byproduct of the jaw becoming more forward grown

Nose will become straighther from a side view

Midface will become more compact due to CCW rotation of maxilla; nose will decrease in length and philtrum will too


If you aren’t facepulling/getting your hands on a facepuller don’t consider your self a looksmaxxer

It costs 450 at the very max if you get the BOW and 200 if you go with cope and ropes design, the value of improvements you will get from FPing for a year will rival $15000+ worth in surgeries


View attachment 253759
This is 4 years of progress, being the aspies we are we could get these results in 2 by supplementing K2 and D3 and taking something to supplement GH, these results mog a lefort i imo which is 20000 and will relapse by 50%

like I said if you aren’t trying to get your hands on a facepuller or not getting surgeries do not consider your self a looksmaxxer

just take the pictures with a different focal point theory. nah but in all seriousness, those pics are so frauded. hold your phone higher up and take a pic, and then lower down below your jaw and take a pic, and you'll get results similar to that. i am gonna making copeandrope's puller tho, but idk how to make the infraoral appliance tbh

 

[Baldingman1998]

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Looks like @Copemaxxing

 

[000]

I’ve been on a facepuller obsession doing research so I figured I would make this thread, if I am missing anything put it in comments

Counterclockwise rotation of the maxilla resulting in more forward growth

Cheekbones will become more highset and sagitally protruding (will not affect lateral length) an example of how this will manifest in your ogee curve is the it will move higher up on your face, yet the curve it’s self will not increase in prominence

Increased undereye support, will cause lower eyelid to become higherset decreasing the overall PFH and giving you more hunter and almond shaped eyes, based on one of my previous theories your upper eyelid curvature will also decrease which will further decrease PFH and make eyes less round and more almond-like

Canthil tilt will increase in angle by improving your zygomatic undereye support

Jaw will become more forward grown and upswung and will make your side profile much better, your gonial will decrease and ramus length will increase (this is from keeping your molars lightly touching but this is mandatory to prevent developing and overbite and making sure your jaw follows the growth of your maxilla)

Chin will become more prominent and forward
just a byproduct of the jaw becoming more forward grown

Nose will become straighther from a side view

Midface will become more compact due to CCW rotation of maxilla; nose will decrease in length and philtrum will too


If you aren’t facepulling/getting your hands on a facepuller don’t consider your self a looksmaxxer

It costs 450 at the very max if you get the BOW and 200 if you go with cope and ropes design, the value of improvements you will get from FPing for a year will rival $15000+ worth in surgeries


View attachment 253759
This is 4 years of progress, being the aspies we are we could get these results in 2 by supplementing K2 and D3 and taking something to supplement GH, these results mog a lefort i imo which is 20000 and will relapse by 50%

like I said if you aren’t trying to get your hands on a facepuller or not getting surgeries do not consider your self a looksmaxxer

Does it make orbital vector more positive?

 

[reptiles]

I’ve been on a facepuller obsession doing research so I figured I would make this thread, if I am missing anything put it in comments

Counterclockwise rotation of the maxilla resulting in more forward growth

Cheekbones will become more highset and sagitally protruding (will not affect lateral length) an example of how this will manifest in your ogee curve is the it will move higher up on your face, yet the curve it’s self will not increase in prominence

Increased undereye support, will cause lower eyelid to become higherset decreasing the overall PFH and giving you more hunter and almond shaped eyes, based on one of my previous theories your upper eyelid curvature will also decrease which will further decrease PFH and make eyes less round and more almond-like

Canthil tilt will increase in angle by improving your zygomatic undereye support

Jaw will become more forward grown and upswung and will make your side profile much better, your gonial will decrease and ramus length will increase (this is from keeping your molars lightly touching but this is mandatory to prevent developing and overbite and making sure your jaw follows the growth of your maxilla)

Chin will become more prominent and forward
just a byproduct of the jaw becoming more forward grown

Nose will become straighther from a side view

Midface will become more compact due to CCW rotation of maxilla; nose will decrease in length and philtrum will too


If you aren’t facepulling/getting your hands on a facepuller don’t consider your self a looksmaxxer

It costs 450 at the very max if you get the BOW and 200 if you go with cope and ropes design, the value of improvements you will get from FPing for a year will rival $15000+ worth in surgeries


View attachment 253759
This is 4 years of progress, being the aspies we are we could get these results in 2 by supplementing K2 and D3 and taking something to supplement GH, these results mog a lefort i imo which is 20000 and will relapse by 50%

like I said if you aren’t trying to get your hands on a facepuller or not getting surgeries do not consider your self a looksmaxxer

@goat2x Is this legit bhai ? these results look to god tier ngl

 

[goat2x]

@goat2x Is this legit bhai ? these results look to god tier ngl

lol no
just ask yourself where is the result
he literally made this thread in february
but i dont care if fucking retards try it anymore they will see

 

[reptiles]

lol no
just ask yourself where is the result
he literally made this thread in february
but i dont care if fucking retards try it anymore they will see

Fucking brutal just be 13 and in pre puberty theory strikes again

 

[AscendingHero]

I’ve been on a facepuller obsession doing research so I figured I would make this thread, if I am missing anything put it in comments

Counterclockwise rotation of the maxilla resulting in more forward growth

Cheekbones will become more highset and sagitally protruding (will not affect lateral length) an example of how this will manifest in your ogee curve is the it will move higher up on your face, yet the curve it’s self will not increase in prominence

Increased undereye support, will cause lower eyelid to become higherset decreasing the overall PFH and giving you more hunter and almond shaped eyes, based on one of my previous theories your upper eyelid curvature will also decrease which will further decrease PFH and make eyes less round and more almond-like

Canthil tilt will increase in angle by improving your zygomatic undereye support

Jaw will become more forward grown and upswung and will make your side profile much better, your gonial will decrease and ramus length will increase (this is from keeping your molars lightly touching but this is mandatory to prevent developing and overbite and making sure your jaw follows the growth of your maxilla)

Chin will become more prominent and forward
just a byproduct of the jaw becoming more forward grown

Nose will become straighther from a side view

Midface will become more compact due to CCW rotation of maxilla; nose will decrease in length and philtrum will too


If you aren’t facepulling/getting your hands on a facepuller don’t consider your self a looksmaxxer

It costs 450 at the very max if you get the BOW and 200 if you go with cope and ropes design, the value of improvements you will get from FPing for a year will rival $15000+ worth in surgeries


View attachment 253759
This is 4 years of progress, being the aspies we are we could get these results in 2 by supplementing K2 and D3 and taking something to supplement GH, these results mog a lefort i imo which is 20000 and will relapse by 50%

like I said if you aren’t trying to get your hands on a facepuller or not getting surgeries do not consider your self a looksmaxxer

I want CCW rotation but my nose is already short, I don't need it shorter. Also can it give me a positive orbital vector? Also what's the copes and ropes facepuller? If using MSE+FP does the facepuller connect to the MSE to achieve BAMP essentially or no?

 

[AscendingHero]

Another transformation
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Went from duck licked subhuman to stacylite, future stacy

 

[AscendingHero]

Went from duck licked subhuman to stacylite, future stacy

looking**

 

[WBC323]

Where to buy facepuller for older guy